StrangerInThisTown Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 The 2nd half of PC was hilarious. Slash had no time to really solo so he just shredded the whole thing through with tons of notes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacdaniel Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 I seen an interview with Slash were he states that most of his riffs started out slower and more funky. He even mentioned that he rerecorded Paradise just to have a version with the slower riff. He explained that things just always got sped up in Guns. I doubt it's just him deciding to do it that way. It is annoying though. Slash can't keep up with the solos at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeBaZ Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 The speeded up version of Dont Cry it's just AWFUL. Today November Rain was played near the original tempo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigpoop Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 It makes me wonder if they even bother listening to the shows or watching video, because there's no way they could hear some of this stuff and think it sounded good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrecthed Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 When it comes with live playing I actually prefer a little faster tempo than slower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xBrownstonex Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 I love those slow tempos from 92 thats how it should be done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 the Stones did this c.mid '70s - early '80s. All their songs were excessively speeded-up, rendering them dull and listless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guns n' Swedes Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Yeah, this is terrible. Sound's like a mockery of their own material. It doesn't make any sense. Is there any benefit for a singers voice or anything to play the songs faster? If it's Slash, wouldn't someone else in the band say something? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacdaniel Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 If it was only Slash, than why is November Rain sped up? He has very little involvement until the solos in that song. I've watched videos and Axl is struggling to play piano and sing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 1 hour ago, Nosaj Thing said: That doesn't take away that Frank is a mediocre drummer, tho. Oh definitely not. I've been a Frank detractor for years. It's just flat out wrong to blame him for the increased tempo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philipm787 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 I'm absolutely certain it's a whole band decision. I actually like the sped up tempos tbh, maybe PC is a little too fast, but I hated the slowed down UYI era tempos, especially on jungle, a fast tempo keeps the songs high in energy imo. Maybe slow down KOHD, NR and Don't Cry a tad, but it doesn't bother me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Philipm787 said: I'm absolutely certain it's a whole band decision. I actually like the sped up tempos tbh, maybe PC is a little too fast, but I hated the slowed down UYI era tempos, especially on jungle, a fast tempo keeps the songs high in energy imo. Maybe slow down KOHD, NR and Don't Cry a tad, but it doesn't bother me. NuGNR has played at normal tempos for over 15 years. Slash, a guy known for playing dramatically increased tempo versions of GNR songs at his own solo shows, comes back, the tempo on everything is suddenly drastically raised, and you think it's a band decision? I'm of the opinion that this was one of the stipulations for his return. He doesn't want to play solos note for note, he wants to shred and skip half of the notes. Edited April 24, 2016 by bacardimayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonsco Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 16 minutes ago, jacdaniel said: If it was only Slash, than why is November Rain sped up? He has very little involvement until the solos in that song. I've watched videos and Axl is struggling to play piano and sing it. Was about to post the exact same thing... Frank actually brings NR somewhere near back inline. Axl kicks that one off at a frenetic pace. Maybe it's all down to adrenaline? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 I cant image how fast Perfect Crimes going to be 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Perhaps it has something to do with curfews? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nn18 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 PC was insanely fast last night. It was probably less than 5 mins long, I had a feeling that the song just started and it was allready over. But I think they were just in a hurry because of the curfew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicoRourke Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 41 minutes ago, Philipm787 said: I'm absolutely certain it's a whole band decision. I actually like the sped up tempos tbh, maybe PC is a little too fast, but I hated the slowed down UYI era tempos, especially on jungle, a fast tempo keeps the songs high in energy imo. Maybe slow down KOHD, NR and Don't Cry a tad, but it doesn't bother me. I like the faster tempo (during the UYI tour it was sometimes to slow, never was a fan) but for some songs during this tour, it's way too fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philipm787 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 1 hour ago, bacardimayne said: NuGNR has played at normal tempos for over 15 years. Slash, a guy known for playing dramatically increased tempo versions of GNR songs at his own solo shows, comes back, the tempo on everything is suddenly drastically raised, and you think it's a band decision? I'm of the opinion that this was one of the stipulations for his return. He doesn't want to play solos note for note, he wants to shred and skip half of the notes. Yeah, I do think it's a band decision, as this is guns n roses, still axls band, and if he wasn't happy with the tempos, he wouldn'cupcake with it, like he is doing now. And slash doesn't play the piano intro to November rain, which in most of the shows had been sped up too. I think there is very few solos slash has ever played note for note, he's all about improvisation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 1 hour ago, The Black said: Perhaps it has something to do with curfews? I don't think so. I've noticed it in Vegas as well. And Vegas didn't have curfews as far as I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 It has probably dawned on Slash that this "reunion" was not what he wanted so he speeds up the songs to get the shows over with as soon as possible 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofnazareth Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 They are not dancing with Mr. Brownstone these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 10 hours ago, StrangerInThisTown said: The 2nd half of PC was hilarious. Slash had no time to really solo so he just shredded the whole thing through with tons of notes I didn't see last nights show yet but the whole tour the songs have been waaayyy too fast and Slash never get's the chance to find his groove and be Slash during the solos.. I have seen Slash's solo band like 10 times and it was never this fast. They nail songs like Rocket Queen perfectly.. Watching him try to jam during Rocket Queen with this band is painful.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 9 hours ago, bigpoop said: It makes me wonder if they even bother listening to the shows or watching video, because there's no way they could hear some of this stuff and think it sounded good. I was wondering the same thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 9 hours ago, DieselDaisy said: the Stones did this c.mid '70s - early '80s. All their songs were excessively speeded-up, rendering them dull and listless. A much lesser band/example but KISS also did this in the late eighties to try to be seen as contemporary in an age when speed rock and flashy guitar solos were all the rage. The songs all sounded like shit as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 9 hours ago, bacardimayne said: NuGNR has played at normal tempos for over 15 years. Slash, a guy known for playing dramatically increased tempo versions of GNR songs at his own solo shows, comes back, the tempo on everything is suddenly drastically raised, and you think it's a band decision? I'm of the opinion that this was one of the stipulations for his return. He doesn't want to play solos note for note, he wants to shred and skip half of the notes. That whole post is absurd.. First of all to say his band plays the songs dramatically fast is a bit of a stretch.. I have seen them 10 times and watch their live videos all the time and it was never an issue. Slash tears it up and has been playing better than ever in his solo band. These tempos are so fast he can't even play like himself.. Slash didn't give a stipulation that they speed up songs like this. This band just doesn't click half the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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