slitherz Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Why since reunion song tempos are way too fast? Frank had no problem with tempos during previous tours, so what's the problem? Could be that Slash and Duff wanted to play them faster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cantona Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 The metronome is fucked up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slosh13 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Seemed Slash was struggling to keep with SCOM - it was way too fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slash Guitarist Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) Glad other people have noticed this too. Many of the songs are being played too fast. I thought November Rain was the worst. Edited April 17, 2016 by Slash Guitarist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slitherz Posted April 17, 2016 Author Share Posted April 17, 2016 Maybe Frank used to play with metronome previously, but Slash wanted to play without? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estranged_85 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 noticed that too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlsnutsack Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Yeah most of the "negatives" people are pointing out just go with age/live shows etc But the tempo is killing some of the songs, Coma would have been definitely easy for Axl to sing if it wasn't the breakneck speed it was at the end But before anyone goes to hard on Frank.....remember Mr Brownstone RIR 2001 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Drama Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Frank has never played the 1987-1993 songs with metronomes, only Chinese Democracy songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumble's Bridge Pickup Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 I really enjoy the faster tempos for a change. Just listening to SCOM, I dunno what is up with Slash, maybe nerves or just an off night. It's kinda weird that he nails the harder parts of the solo, but had some problems with the easier leads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Frank is really struggling. But it is what it is. GnR is back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintari Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) It could be that they don't want to play for as long. Speeding up the shows puts less strain on Axl's voice? I don't know, but I find it hard to believe it isn't on purpose. There has to be a reason. Edited April 17, 2016 by Nintari 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slitherz Posted April 17, 2016 Author Share Posted April 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, Nintari said: It could be that they don't want to play for as long. Speeding up the shows puts less strain on Axl's voice? I don't know, but I find it hard to believe it isn't on purpose. There has to be a reason. Yeah, I tend to believe it is intentional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-W.A.R- Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 trying to meet show time deadlines? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlingrl03 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 20 minutes ago, -W.A.R- said: trying to meet show time deadlines? lol I was thinking that same thought last night. Who knows???! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john lennon Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Maybe Ferrer's possessed by Johnny Ramone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judezki Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 I dont think they can gain much extra time by playing a bit faster. I think they want some songs to be more aggressive by playing them faster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatVin Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 I'm quite sure they are playing at exactly the tempo they want, at this professional level it really is not about drummer going faster than he should. So it's gotta be conscious decision to speed things up a little bit. I would personally prefer to see some of the songs played a bit slower, but I guess it's matter of taste and it could add some rawness into the live show to go a bit faster then the original versions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babooshka Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Like November Rain? When has that ever been considered an aggressive song. Maybe they think it'll help Axl with the vocals, but Coma would have been better slower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 In Vegas I thought some of it was nerves on Frank's part, especially since he did slow down a bit on the second night, but now I think Axl, Slash and/or Duff asked him to pick up the tempo. We know Axl has no problem calling him out on something, he's done it a least a couple times in the past, so it's intentional... It really is my only 'complaint' about the shows though, Frank is noticeably out of place on DTJ, RQ, YCBM, PC, and while not as bad he's still too fast on Brownstone, Coma, and parts of the ballads. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RockerRoller Posted April 17, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2016 Bring back adler! Bring back adler! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 I didn't notice the tempo at all when I was at the show, but when I listened back to my recording I was like "Damn, that's fast" on more than a few songs. When I clicked on PC from Coachella, I was stunned at how fast Slash was playing the intro. Overall, I don't mind the uptempo feel, but I can see how people are bothered by it. 15 minutes ago, RockerRoller said: Bring back adler! Bring back adler! This has nothing to do with Frank. He's playing to the click track that is set to exactly the tempo that GN'R wants to do these songs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotsfired cro Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 I was actually going to open a thread when I see this topic already opened. This is just - bad. At the times it sounded like cartoon. I finally found a working link, woke up, in Europe, with November rain and asked my wife WTF!?!? They ALL seemed to struggle with pace and played over each other. November rain, KOHD, Nightrain...It seemed like abandoned train on collision course. I don't know what it is, but now after first three shows it seems very - plastic, to say the least. Not much talking from the band, playing many songs, some reworked for the worse (KOHD), seems like something is missing. I do hope they go back to UYI line up as quickly as possible. Fortus and Frank = just bad fit. During UYI era, I thought why plaing LALD and KOHD with so many great songs on UYI, now KOHD sounds just strange. Wish they would play it UYI era. It sounds to speed up, sort of reworked but no soul it used to have. It sounded big during UYI now sort of lost in translation. And yes, Ferrer and Fortus, despite some ppl liking them, just don't match the current line up. Not physicaly, not musicaly, not in any way. Matt, Gilby or Izzy shall be there by all means. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnfnrs1972 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 You people! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estranged_85 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 16 minutes ago, shotsfired cro said: I was actually going to open a thread when I see this topic already opened. This is just - bad. At the times it sounded like cartoon. I finally found a working link, woke up, in Europe, with November rain and asked my wife WTF!?!? They ALL seemed to struggle with pace and played over each other. November rain, KOHD, Nightrain...It seemed like abandoned train on collision course. I don't know what it is, but now after first three shows it seems very - plastic, to say the least. Not much talking from the band, playing many songs, some reworked for the worse (KOHD), seems like something is missing. I do hope they go back to UYI line up as quickly as possible. Fortus and Frank = just bad fit. During UYI era, I thought why plaing LALD and KOHD with so many great songs on UYI, now KOHD sounds just strange. Wish they would play it UYI era. It sounds to speed up, sort of reworked but no soul it used to have. It sounded big during UYI now sort of lost in translation. And yes, Ferrer and Fortus, despite some ppl liking them, just don't match the current line up. Not physicaly, not musicaly, not in any way. Matt, Gilby or Izzy shall be there by all means. Exactly this! i like fortus tho.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 7 minutes ago, gnfnrs1972 said: You people! I just had the same thought. Everyone in this thread realizes this has nothing to do with Frank, right? Matt Sorum, Steven Adler, Stevie Wonder, Jesus H Christ.... It doesn't matter who the drummer is on these shows. The songs are being played at the exact tempo GNR wants to play them at due to the click track in Frank's ear. If you don't like the faster tempo, that's fine of course but your problem is with the tempo GNR is choosing to play them at, not any one member in particular. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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