SWINGTRADER Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 (edited) Not since the 90's has Axl acted the way he has since joining ACDC. His attitude and voice is far beyond what it is with GNR. His vocals with ACDC are far better than any of the shows he has recently done with Guns. Are GNR songs so hard to sing compared to AC/DC or does Axl not give a shit to put more effort into his voice with Guns? I am one of those people who think Axl can sing with Rasp on any GNR song but chooses not to. I find that to be disrespectful towards his GNR fan base. And if he doesn't sing with rasp in order to save his voice, then the fact that he is now using full rasp with ACDC is a spit in the face of GNR. As far as his attitude goes, he seems to be loving all the press time he is doing with his new band. He had done more media with ACDC than he has done in 20+ years with GNR. I seriously think that if Angus asked him, he would drop GNR for ACDC. What do you guys think? Edited May 15, 2016 by SWINGTRADER 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumikki Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 (edited) I really hope not. I'm a GnR fan and not an AC/DC fan. AC/DC bores me to tears. I'm already growing tired of this... collaboration. I'm happy happy for Axl that he gets to do this and I'm glad he's enjoying himself, but... let's not turn this into a permanent thing. Edited May 15, 2016 by Lumikki 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DexAxl Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 (edited) 15 minutes ago, SWINGTRADER said: Not since the 90's has Axl acted the way he has since joining ACDC. His attitude and voice is far beyond what it is with GNR. His vocals with ACDC are far better than any of the shows he has recently done with Guns. Are GNR songs so hard to sing compared to AC/DC or does Axl not give a shit to put more effort into his voice with Guns? I am one of those people who think Axl can sing with Rasp on any GNR song but chooses not to. I find that to be disrespectful towards his GNR fan base. And if he doesn't sing with rasp in order to save his voice, then the fact that he is now using full rasp with ACDC is a spit in the face of GNR. As far as his attitude goes, he seems to be loving all the press time he is doing with his new band. He had done more media with ACDC than he has done in 20+ years with GNR. I seriously think that if Angus asked him, he would drop GNR for ACDC. What do you guys think? Most of AC/DC songs are supposed to be with rasp through entire song, how do you think he can sing NR, Estranged or Don't cry with rasp? I'm sure Axl don't enjoy press, you have to understand Angus is boss and if Axl want's to be part of band he have to do interviews. Edited May 15, 2016 by DexAxl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 I think with GNR Axl feels a level of "I've been there and done that" he has nothing left to prove to Slash, Duff or anyone who joins the band. He's already gone to the top of that hill. With ACDC he's interacting with a new fanbase, a new band, and he wants to show them why their gamble on him is worth it. So I do think he cares more about ACDC, his level of error is far smaller with them than gnr. This is going to prove to be a good break for Axl though, he has to be tired of singing the same songs with gnr. I feel like he's going to give both fan bases his best effort this go around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Lumikki said: I really hope not. I'm a GnR fan and not an AC/DC fan. AC/DC bores me to tears. I'm already growing tired of this... collaboration. I'm happy happy for Axl that he gets to do this and I'm glad he's enjoying himself, but... let's not turn this into a permanent thing. I agree. ACDC just doesn't do it for me. I'm glad he's enjoying it but it just seems off that after all this time, he finally gets back with the guys and instead of hyping that, he's off keeping ACDC afloat. I am also worried his voice is gonna go before the GNR tour. I've watched some ACDC videos and in some of those songs (mainly For Those About to Rock) he pushes his voice till it cracks. Just seems like odd timing to me and take away from GNR. Edit-for spelling error Edited May 15, 2016 by Bulldog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSeeker Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 I think we can now confirm that 2011-2014 was just Axl being lazy I'm not paying to see him with GNR if he's going to half-ass it - I'll be at an AC/DC show instead 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NicDwolfwood Posted May 16, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2016 Does everything have to be over-analyzed with this band??? Jeez Unless Axl comes out and says, "GNR is finished I'm staying with AC/DC", then we cant say he cares more about it than GNR. Axl is simply enjoying playing with his heroes and enjoying the challenge of winning over a crowd that isnt his. If he's somehow bored with GNR, then make some fucking new songs and out them out and play them..Its sounds simple, but yet thats been his biggest issue for 2 decades is the lack of music. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlvai Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Maybe Axl, like a any human being, are a little excited about doing this. So he push a little more higher. Kinda logic way to think, he was not obliged to. So... i asume he is happy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosonen Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 I think the whole axl/dc thing is just good for GNR. I believe this has a lot to do with Slash and especially Duff being back in a band. GNR is doing good (even if I think frank sucks, and the live chemistry is still nowhere good), Axl can relax and have some fun, maybe hopefully get inspired of music again. would be funny though, after all the years of keeping GNR alive/half alive, all the BS and shit, finally dreams come true.....SLASH is BAAAACK! Oh, im out, im with Ac/Dc lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Powerage5 Posted May 16, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2016 I don't necessarily think he cares about it more, but I do think he's enjoying it more at the moment. I mean, he doesn't have to worry about any of the business bullshit, he just shows up and sings the damn songs and that's it. He's still very much in charge of GN'R, so that's probably a lot more taxing on him. Not to mention that he's fronting a band he's always idolized, it's easy to see why he's excited about it. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 2 hours ago, SWINGTRADER said: Not since the 90's has Axl acted the way he has since joining ACDC. His attitude and voice is far beyond what it is with GNR. His vocals with ACDC are far better than any of the shows he has recently done with Guns. Are GNR songs so hard to sing compared to AC/DC or does Axl not give a shit to put more effort into his voice with Guns? I am one of those people who think Axl can sing with Rasp on any GNR song but chooses not to. I find that to be disrespectful towards his GNR fan base. And if he doesn't sing with rasp in order to save his voice, then the fact that he is now using full rasp with ACDC is a spit in the face of GNR. As far as his attitude goes, he seems to be loving all the press time he is doing with his new band. He had done more media with ACDC than he has done in 20+ years with GNR. I seriously think that if Angus asked him, he would drop GNR for ACDC. What do you guys think? I agree. Ask one question to yourself? When was the last time Rose was passionate about Guns N' Roses. You may have to go back to the Buckethead line-up for that answer, or at a minimum the 2006 tour. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Archer Posted May 16, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2016 (edited) Speculation that Axl loves AC/DC more than GN'R is hyperbole. GN'R is his main thing and has always been. Even if he were to become the fourth official frontman of AC/DC, it would still not match up to or equal his status as the original and one and only frontman of GN'R. There's no question though that this AC/DC stint seems to be firing his brain circuits in different ways than usual. He is doing something he loves, is excited about, is a challenge and is motivated to work hard at. I'm sure that all those things apply to GN'R as well, but just haven't in as short a time, with the intensity that they have now, or for the reasons involved. 'Laziness', or 'Not caring about his band, band members, or fans', are easy and lazy accusations to throw at Axl. It's impossible to put one's self in Axl's shows and unfair to psychoanalyze him from the comfort of one's couch, but he's someone who has been speculated to, or has admitted to suffering everything from anxiety to bi-polar depression. But when people are harsh and judgmental about him, they rarely ever consider that the particular genius and personality that drove many of the songs that they love to listen to, reside along with the quirks, drawbacks and unique motivations of his character, and that they make him act very differently from how they would if they were him. Instead, people just view Axl through the prism of their own expectations - I'm not talking about casual fans or the media, but the serious fans who should know better. Whatever mental state and general state of being and confidence that Axl has achieved, that has allowed him to arrive at a working rapprochement with Slash and Duff, has also allowed him to have the confidence and level-headedness to go out and do frontman duties for AC/DC. It just might be that through all the ups and down he's faced over time, or that he faces on an on going basis, this particular opportunity has allowed him to latch on to a special source of motivation and energy. Or, it just might be that the stability that he has in his life and own personal self have allowed him to extend himself further than just GN'R. Either way, it augurs well for him and for his sense of self-worth. That's only a good thing for GN'R because even as an Axl fan, I know that he is the biggest variable in GN'R's continued success. It beats me how people continue to see this differently. I really don't know what his health, mental state, personal situation etc. were when his voice dropped off in the last couple of years. But I'm thrilled to see that it sounds great right now. Practicing regularly and being on time and seeing how a successful, well oiled machine like AC/DC is run should only help him in better managing himself in GN'R, and in guiding its fortunes. Stretching his voice for songs that are clearly within his grasp and ability, particularly with practice, only keeps him in good vocal shape and shows him the limits that he can achieve. For the record, he still hasn't pushed himself to the limit on FTATR - and saves himself on the final FIRE, so maybe he's holding himself back or knows his voice better than we do. Why not just wait and see whether his voice holds up for the GN'R tour? On a final note, I don't see Slash and Duff or Richard or Frank crib on a daily basis about how much Axl loves AC/DC more than GN'R, but they aren't doing so because I suspect that they realize that Axl being excited and happy and bringing in more publicity by way of AC/DC is good for them and their futures with GN'R too. Edited May 16, 2016 by The Archer Edited for punctuation 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post J Dog Posted May 16, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2016 No. He sang his ass off for the GNR shows. He's singing his ass off for the AC/DC shows. And he will sing his ass off when GNR go back in tour. Kinda like back in the day Axl, just singing like a motherfucker everytime he grabs the mic. It's a good thing. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kittiara Posted May 16, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2016 I am no expert at what's gone on behind the scenes in GN'R. I do think, however, that it would be fair to call it complicated. Fall-outs, disappointments, lawyers, court cases... as the years passed, the band probably became something very different from why they started in the first place. They fell to pieces, other people joined, more people left, but whatever the line-up, people wanted AFD and UYI, Slash, Duff, Izzy and Steven. Now that Slash and Duff are back, Axl does seem happier. I personally thought the recent concerts were great. I can't deny, however, that Axl is performing even better with AC/DC, and that there is a distinct difference in his interactions with fans and with the media whilst on the AC/DC tour, compared with GN'R. But then, I think that Axl isn't oblivious to how many people perceive him. That goes for the media as well as casual fans and non-fans. A troublemaker who's always late, who isn't very nice, and who can't sing anymore. The man who was responsible for the break-up. The man who produced CD, which wasn't a well-loved album. The man who changed his tune about a reunion. The man who might be responsible for a lack of Izzy and Steven now. The man who should be making music. With GN'R, he still faces all these questions and accusations. With AC/DC, he still has to overcome a stigma, but he has far fewer responsibilities. He doesn't run the band. All he has to do is show up, sing songs that he loves with a band he admires, and be nice and friendly. It's the very best opportunity to show the world what he's got and prove everyone wrong about him. Of course, this is just speculation. I can't read the man's mind. I know that if I were in his position, though, I would be delighted to fulfill a dream, have the satisfaction of helping out artists I admire, and perform with a whole lot less pressure for a while. To show who I really am, rather than have the burden of the past constantly hanging over me. That doesn't mean, in my opinion, that he cares any less about GN'R. If he didn't care, he would have given up a long time ago. Just yeah, I figure it's complicated. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSeeker Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 39 minutes ago, The Archer said: On a final note, I don't see Slash and Duff or Richard or Frank crib on a daily basis about how much Axl loves AC/DC more than GN'R, but they aren't doing so because I suspect that they realize that Axl being excited and happy and bringing in more publicity by way of AC/DC is good for them and their futures with GN'R too. That's a funny way of saying "gag order" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosso Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 (edited) The AC/DC tour is his first non-GN'R related tour since his days with L.A. Guns. A completly new challenge for him. And I don't think that we will see much from GN'R apart from the "Not In This Lifetime… Tour" in the future (and I thought that even before Axl joined AC/DC on the "Rock Or Bust Tour"). Edited May 16, 2016 by Sosso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appetiteyourillusion Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 (edited) To me from what I've seen from the shows he has been in a great mood and shown a lot of energy in the GNR shows. AC/DC songs are right in his wheelhouse with the rasp. He has been excellent in both bands in all of the shows. This is only going to help him when he comes back to GNR in June. I never question his passion or heart. He goes on stage and sings his but off! No reason to question his loyalty and passion with GNR. Edited May 19, 2016 by Appetiteyourillusion Spelling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Archer Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 46 minutes ago, TheSeeker said: That's a funny way of saying "gag order" If Slash and Duff are dumb sheep just following gag orders, then everything that they've said about what happened in the last 25 years is a big, fat lie. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosonen Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Think about it. When GNR tour continues.....Axl back with that voice. Its gonna be perfect! Thank you Angus by take care of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valengf Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 (edited) Of course he cares more about GNR. Its his band, his songs. But obviously he wanted yo make a good impression as new acdc front man And redeem himself. Patience so that that voice can arrive well to GNR Edited May 16, 2016 by valengf Grammar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ak1nney Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 I think time away from GNR right now is a good thing. He can come back actually inspired to do his own material again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillionsOfSpiders Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 I don't know, GN'R meant a whole lot to him at TheTroubadour gig when he did an almost full set with a broken foot!! Nothing was going to get him off that stage he was sharing with Slash for the first time in 23 years. He cares....now. Of course with AC/DC it's a whole new ball game. I get the impression he would like to front both bands and is trying to convince Angus to keep him in. There's the motivation. Past GN'R shows, well he obviously lost his way with them somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitha_whiskey Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Lord I'm a simple man- ain't too much I need i ain't askin for all of your tweets Just tweet me whatcha can n set me free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 His current voice fits AC/DC better than most GN'R songs. As for his attitude/demeanor/mood, it is no different from when in GN'R. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 (edited) Nah. He's excited as fuck Slash and Duff are back, all the acceptance, seeing him looking at Slash wailing tells me all I need to know really. Angus is bigger than life. Especially for lifelong fans like Axl. It's crazy to be in that position I'd imagine. You can't really compare it to anything else, but still Guns is his main focus imo. There are a lot of benefits in Axl is killing it with Angus and DC. Just as a Guns fan, I think both the AC/DC thing and Slash and Duff can get Axl to actually do something with the current line up but it's possible I'm just too stoned. Edited May 16, 2016 by Rovim 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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