Popular Post Hasan--97 Posted May 22, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2016 (edited) Could it have been something really special or was it doomed from the start? When Axl Rose embarked on his first concert after 8 years a great deal of anticipation & excitement was in the air for the new band. The start to this is epic, even if this wasn't the best show vocally Axl was running around just like the old days & the crowd was loving every minute thankful for the reunion but its a shame something more didn't come out of NUGNR Edited May 22, 2016 by Hasan--97 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-W.A.R- Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 it was doomed from the start as i think Axl alienated the core base by bringing out a freakshow lineup that image just wasn't GNR and ppl that may have been interested in a odd ball band like that probably wouldn't take them seriously it certainly didn't help that Chinese became something of a myth....he should have pushed it out way earlier 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CardinalGunner Posted May 22, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2016 I presume you are referring to the Slash-less years. For whatever its worth, I attended and greatly enjoyed several shows in the 2000s. Kind of lost interest during the DJ Ashba years. The lineup with Buckethead and Finck, hugely talented and so much potential that unfortunately did not get to reach full potential. Chinese Democracy however, is a great album. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillionsOfSpiders Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 It was always going to be doomed no matter who Axl brought in. He alone is not Guns N Roses. Axl still doesn't fully grasp the idea that you can't replace key members. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Their formation, thats where they went wrong. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cantona Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Mickey and lack of Slash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 How long have you got? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cantona Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 And let's not forget Ashba! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexC Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 I think replacing an icon like Slash with a dude wearing a KFC bucket for a hat completely underwhelmed even the lowest of expectations. Plus everyone blamed Axl for the split so he automatically had an uphill battle trying to get any support from fans. He changed his look dramatically, changed the sound dramatically, he basically removed any shred of what once was and what people loved about GN'R. I personally loved Chinese Democracy and thought Axl delivered some fantastic performances over those years and I actually went to see them in 2012. But none of that even slightly compares to what they were before and what they are again now. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ludurigan Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 1 hour ago, CardinalGunner said: The lineup with Buckethead and Finck, hugely talented and so much potential that unfortunately did not get to reach full potential. its too much talent to handle i am sure they are too busy handling their huge talents and considering what to do with their huge potential thats why they dont write good songs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draguns Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 It was doomed from the start. Axl and Slash were two of my childhood idols. When Slash left GNR, I was disappointed but still a fan of Axl. When the NU GNR came about and I saw video of them, I was thinking WTF did Axl do to the band that I grew up with and admired. The MTV performance confirmed that this was not GNR. Buckethead and Robin Fink just looked ridiculous for GNR. You had this stupid looking guy with a mask and a KFC bucket on his head. You had another guy who was goth and looked like an alien. Neither one of them belonged in GNR. It showed why they were session players and not meant to be in a prominent band like GNR. I did like the combination of Fortus, Ashba, and Bumblefoot. To me, they brought a bit of old school GNR with a modern twist. Towards the end of that, though, I thought Bumblefoot complained too much. I think Ashba is doing too much mentioning of GNR now that he's no longer in the band. From the Nu-GNR, I would say half of the songs that were released were good while the other half were awful! None were great, though. The songs missed Slash and Duff. No question. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnr estranged Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 heres what went wrong: it was called Guns N Roses with only one member from Guns N Roses in the band. It was doomed from the start. Too many legal issues with the name, too big of expectations. Its a shame, there were very talented musicians with Axl, they should have just came up with a different band name. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duro Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Lack of a catchy single, and the state of rock in general. Chinese Democracy is a really good album. Saw a couple shows between 2006 - 2011, and they were awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cantona Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 NuGNR's first lead guitarist was a tall freak wearing a bucket on his head. Lack of new material. Finck. Fortus playing the Nightrain solo when Izzy was guesting. "We'll be back next year with a whole bunch of new songs!" I loveNuGNR, but I could go on for hours. Pitman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightBLASTER Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Buckethead leaving. He was essentially their entire new identity. With him, there was an argument to be made that it wasn't just an Axl solo band. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ88 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 15 years....1 album...and Axl refused to promote it or even focus the shows on new music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PappyTron Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 The problem is that when you have a delay that is so long, with so many rumours swirling around, no matter what music the band puts out it is almost guaranteed to fail to live up to the hype. Add in the fact that Axl alienated a lot of people by effectively pretending that Slash, Izzy and Steve/Matt didn't exist and that the new line up wasn't just Guns N' Roses in name but actually Guns N' Roses, and virtually nothing that the band did, said or released was going to be a smash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draguns Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 25 minutes ago, lightBLASTER said: Buckethead leaving. He was essentially their entire new identity. With him, there was an argument to be made that it wasn't just an Axl solo band. I completely disagree with this. People would have been only interested in seeing Axl and not Buckethead. He's a good guitarist, but not great. There's a reason why he has a ton of albums, but not a memorable song. His mask and KFC bucket really diminishes him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 What happened? He didn't release music and kept silente for many years. That's what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PappyTron Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 20 minutes ago, Draguns said: I completely disagree with this. People would have been only interested in seeing Axl and not Buckethead. He's a good guitarist, but not great. There's a reason why he has a ton of albums, but not a memorable song. His mask and KFC bucket really diminishes him. Buckethead is very much a great guitarist; a virtuoso and one of the best in the world. However, his image in not really in line with what old time fans of the band were looking for, and that weighed against him, no matter how phenomenal his playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexC Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 26 minutes ago, PappyTron said: The problem is that when you have a delay that is so long, with so many rumours swirling around, no matter what music the band puts out it is almost guaranteed to fail to live up to the hype. Add in the fact that Axl alienated a lot of people by effectively pretending that Slash, Izzy and Steve/Matt didn't exist and that the new line up wasn't just Guns N' Roses in name but actually Guns N' Roses, and virtually nothing that the band did, said or released was going to be a smash. Ha! Your profile pic is purple Acki, are you from Merseyside as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PappyTron Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 6 minutes ago, AlexC said: Ha! Your profile pic is purple Acki, are you from Merseyside as well? No, just a near 30 year Liverpool supporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexC Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Just now, PappyTron said: No, just a near 30 year Liverpool supporter. Ah okay, but you do know what purple Acki is notorious for, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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