Popular Post Blackstar Posted November 6, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2016 (edited) Happy Birthday @MillionsOfSpiders! On 06/11/2016 at 2:36 PM, tiutso said: honestly, you wouldn't believe how much harder i'd obsess over some people with whom i wasn't that well-acquainted, as opposed to those i actually knew. if you don't have a legitimate model of somebody's behaviour based on the information about their personality, you can literally think up anything and drown in potential scenarios, if it's a thing you tend to do. the more time you spend fixated on a person that you only have a general idea about, the more attached you might get to what you imagine him to be and not who they actually are, even though you might continue to project that onto the actual human being. he might've fancied himself cobain's greatest rival on the other side of the culture war barricades for all we know. it's a coping mechanism alright, for a lot of people who fail to navigate their social relations irl and tend to feel safer resolving things inside their heads. not saying it's a thing with axl, but who knows. that friend must've known something about this, if he felt the need to keep an eye on him. No, it wasn't that. Axl had never seen Kurt Cobain as an ideological/cultural rival and he couldn't get why Kurt thought of him and GnR that way. Another quote from Bryn Bridenthal: And one from Axl: MUSICIAN: Guns N' Roses are going on tour with Metallica this summer. I heard you've been trying to get Nirvana to join you and Kurt Cobain is saying no. AXL: It's back and forth. I just think that they're having a lot of problems with who they are and who they want to be and trying to hold onto it at the same time. At least Kurt is. I'd like to be as supportive as I can, but I don't know how much he will allow support. To write a song like "Smells Like Teen Spirit" making fun of your songwriting and then have it used as an anthem has got to be a complete mindfuck. The man definitely has a mountain to rise above. I think there is a part of him that has the strength and desire to do it. I just don't know if he's able to get in touch with it. I had an advance copy of that record and it became my favorite. I would put it on repeatedly. Nirvana has helped me do my job. I think that the world has gotten really bored, really fed up and really pent up with frustration, and that comes through in Nirvana. I think a lot of people were aware of that feeling and he happened to find the song that touched it and was able to let that feeling out in people. And I'd like to do anything I can to support it. That's why we want them to play with us. http://www.oocities.org/rattlesnake_suitcase/mus92.htm Of course, after Nirvana turned down the offer, Axl ranted on stage, called Kurt "a junkie with a junkie wife", burnt his Nirvana cap and then there was the VMA incident, but when he was trying to get Nirvana to tour with GnR, Kurt had already talked a lot of trash calling GnR "a shitty band with shitty musicians" etc. Like @giuls said, Axl felt he had things in common with Kurt, likely identified with him and thought he understood him. He probably (as Bryn Bridenthal implied) continued to feel that way despite the feud (he never talked in public about Nirvana again) and blamed Courtney Love for it, as to him she was "evil". And btw, what Axl said in the interview above about Kurt wasn't far from reality. Kurt had a dichotomy: he wanted to be successful and at the same time to remain "pure" and not betray the punk ethos. The shit talking and the animosity towards Axl (and to a lesser extent towards other Seattle/grunge bands, Pearl Jam mainly) was due to him trying to stand above that dichotomy. And he was surrounded by people who pressured him and pushed him towards one or the other direction. Anton Brookes (UK publicist for Nirvana): On 06/11/2016 at 6:00 AM, sanity_lost said: I'd like to toss in my two cents in regards to the Kurt Cobain story. I would not be surprised at all if someone felt they wanted to break this news to Axl gently and were worried about how he'd take it. First of all, Axl was going through a lot of shit in late '93, early '94. The Steven lawsuit was being settled, the Stephanie lawsuit was happening with Erin jumping in to sue him as well. Also during this time Guns N' Roses was very definitely falling apart. It was early '94, I believe, when he used his nuclear option with the name ownership. Brought on by himself? Possibly, but regardless it was a lot of shit he was going through. That much stuff going on in your life would be stressful for even the most mentally and emotionally stable people. And I don't believe that is something Axl has ever been accused of being. So, likely, Axl was not in a good mental place during that time of his life. Now lets add in Kurt's suicide. Axl and Kurt had a relationship. Sure it was an antagonistic relationship but Kurt wasn't just some with random musician, this was a person who Axl knew. And he didn't just die, which is bad enough, he blew his own head off. Learning someone you know committed suicide in a horrific way is jarring/traumatic enough for someone who isn't already emotionally unstable. But for someone who is? Yeah, I think I'd be worried about them as well. This is a good point too. Axl wasn't exactly a stable person and, in addition to that, early 1994 was a very difficult period for him (he made the move with the name ownership the following year, but it doesn't change the picture). I'd imagined, given all that, that Kurt's suicide would have affected Axl somehow. But still, the possibility of him hurting himself (even as a thought/concern coming from a person who seemingly was close to him and knew him well) seems like an extreme reaction to me. Edited November 13, 2016 by Blackstar 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babooshka Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 1 hour ago, Lumikki said: And this. Duff getting mad at a Kurt Cobain conspiracy theorist (?) at one of his book signings. Everyone likes badass Duff, right? "Get the fuck out of here, motherfucker!" Omg, what is this!? Drama follows this band everywhere! And yes, badass Duff is something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 (edited) 6 hours ago, Lumikki said: Here's some shit tangentially related to the Kurt Cobain / Bryn Bridenthal discussion: A surprisingly "sweet" (let's call it that) postcard written to Bryn Bridenthal by all the guys. I think it's interesting because it has all 5 guys' handwriting on it. (And LOL at Izzy's message ) I came across this postcard when we were trying to figure out if the handwriting on a supposed "contract" found in a warehouse belonged to any of the band members. The story behind it: This postcard sends support to Bridenthal who had been involved in a well publicized fight with some members of Poison backstage at the L.A. Forum. Axl Rose had called Poison a “bunch of poseurs” who represent “everything bad about rock and roll” and Poison’s Bobby Dahl and Bret Michaels retaliated at a Motley Crue afterparty by throwing beer on Bridenthal and then dumping a bucket of ice water on her head. She later sued the Poison members which resulted in an out of court settlement. https://garyrocks.wordpress.com/2012/06/15/guns-n-roses-vs-poison-welcome-to-their-jungle/ ---------- And to keep up more with the light/bright side of the thread, a random Slaxl moment: Edited November 7, 2016 by Blackstar 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giuls Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 1 hour ago, Lumikki said: Happy Birthday @MillionsOfSpiders! Here's some shit tangentially related to the Kurt Cobain / Bryn Bridenthal discussion: A surprisingly "sweet" (let's call it that) postcard written to Bryn Bridenthal by all the guys. I think it's interesting because it has all 5 guys' handwriting on it. (And LOL at Izzy's message ) I love this postcard for some reason, Slash and Duff are supportive but kinda generic, Izzy gets threating, Axl assures her they care and he's actually sweet saying she's doing great and i can only read rock in Steven's message. (WTF at Poison retailing on Bridenthal when they had beef with Axl) @Blackstar i find extremely funny how Nirvana's publicist regarded Axl as the worst of worst, like, it's not like Nirvana was that different from GNR, the minute you sign with a major label you "sold out" (or suck corporation's cocks in his own world) because they're preoccupied with money, he wouldn't have had the job with Nirvana have they not signed up and it's not like Kurt was the most chill person, he threw tantrum even before he was famous, yes, he was young but i doubt they stopped before 1992 (i assume he's talking about his first OD) The slaxl moment is very cute, i like how they arch into each other and rose leggings! And here we have Axl showing us the miracle of love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian girl Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 (edited) Is it just a problem of the photo or is he quite bald there?? O.o Edited November 6, 2016 by Italian girl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asia Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Great Slaxl moment. Guess that level of closeness and intimacy ain't coming back. That stupid twenty years have built a wall there that is not entirely taken down yet and might actually never be. Sad. Coming back for a while to this Robert John's comment about how certain key member's leaving must have hurt Axl cause he keeps on talking about it. It never ceases to amaze how little the people who he was close with knew about him. Like they figured things like that out only after the split happened. I mean, we don't even know him and yet we knew it right away, didn't we? I had no doubt at any time of the existence of this band (since I really got into it) that Slash leaving would be a tragedy for Axl but unfortunately many people close to Axl had no idea about it and instead of doing everything in their powers to never let it happen for the sake of both Axl, Slash and themselves (it was easily predictable that folks like Dougie will lose big time on this), they were still either stirring more shit or just doing nothing. Sad, again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giuls Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 6 minutes ago, Italian girl said: Is it just a problem of the photo or is he quite bald there?? O.o It's the light 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian girl Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Fine! Thanks @giuls!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy14 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 A little bit of Slaxl and Axl/Duff (I need a bigger resolution and a video ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babooshka Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 9 minutes ago, Asia said: Great Slaxl moment. Guess that level of closeness and intimacy ain't coming back. That stupid twenty years have built a wall there that is not entirely taken down yet and might actually never be. Sad. Coming back for a while to this Robert John's comment about how certain key member's leaving must have hurt Axl cause he keeps on talking about it. It never ceases to amaze how little the people who he was close with knew about him. Like they figured things like that out only after the split happened. I mean, we don't even know him and yet we knew it right away, didn't we? I had no doubt at any time of the existence of this band (since I really got into it) that Slash leaving would be a tragedy for Axl but unfortunately many people close to Axl had no idea about it and instead of doing everything in their powers to never let it happen for the sake of both Axl, Slash and themselves (it was easily predictable that folks like Dougie will lose big time on this), they were still either stirring more shit or just doing nothing. Sad, again. This is why so many fans never even believed they'd truly spilt for the longest time. Even after it was annouced Slash had left, I didn't think it was serious at all. The idea of them splitting seemed ludicrous and crazy to me. It's sad. But as things stand today. No matter the current state of their relationship, I don't think they'd be all over each other in public like they once were. They all seem more self-aware and guarded nowadays. So in private who knows, maybe Slash and Axl are a lot more easy with each other than what is shown on stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giuls Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 And we keep saying it but Slash is shy and he used substances to feel more "free", it's not affectionate with Duff either now as far as i saw abd they're close so i don't really read something in Slash not reacting that much to Axl now. Axl is less "crazy" in his dancing now, what a drag it is getting old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asia Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Yeah, I know they wouldn't be so open about it anymore, especially after how much we here intimidate them but still I have a feeling some reservation is there and not all trust is back, it's basically a feeling based on hardly any facts, so I ain't gonna defend too fiercely... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocketqueen76 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 2 minutes ago, giuls said: And we keep saying it but Slash is shy and he used substances to feel more "free", it's not affectionate with Duff either now as far as i saw abd they're close so i don't really read something in Slash not reacting that much to Axl now. Axl is less "crazy" in his dancing now, what a drag it is getting old. Someone posted elsewhere posted the same thing about Mick Jagger when Axl performed Salt of the Earth with the RS. Mick was the same age Axl is now....the slowing down comes with age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babooshka Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Asia said: Yeah, I know they wouldn't be so open about it anymore, especially after how much we here intimidate them but still I have a feeling some reservation is there and not all trust is back, it's basically a feeling based on hardly any facts, so I ain't gonna defend too fiercely... I know what you mean. I waver between full on Slaxl and them still working things out. And yeah, we probably are intimating for them. Edited November 6, 2016 by Babooshka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 47 minutes ago, Asia said: Yeah, I know they wouldn't be so open about it anymore, especially after how much we here intimidate them but still I have a feeling some reservation is there and not all trust is back, it's basically a feeling based on hardly any facts, so I ain't gonna defend too fiercely... I'd love to know more about how that first face-to-face meeting went, when Slash went to have dinner at Axl's house. I imagine it can't have been easy (and probably was quite awkward) after so many years of bitterness and hurt feelings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlingrl03 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 2 hours ago, giuls said: And we keep saying it but Slash is shy and he used substances to feel more "free", it's not affectionate with Duff either now as far as i saw abd they're close so i don't really read something in Slash not reacting that much to Axl now. Axl is less "crazy" in his dancing now, what a drag it is getting old. At least there is still some dancing....better than none! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkforgirls Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!! @MillionsOfSpiders 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy14 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Frey said: I'd love to know more about how that first face-to-face meeting went, when Slash went to have dinner at Axl's house. I imagine it can't have been easy (and probably was quite awkward) after so many years of bitterness and hurt feelings. Slash: "Hey, Axl" Axl: "Oh, shit! You again?" ... Slash: "Hmmm....delicious meat....did you cook it yourself" Axl: "Huh" Slash: "And the bread...is it homemade?" Axl: ... Axl: "How's Perla?" Slash: ... Slash: "I gotta go...it was nice talking to you" Axl: "Sure " Slash: "And the band?" Axl: "Duff will do it" Slash: "Deal" 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post marlingrl03 Posted November 7, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2016 This is the biggest version I have found so far...but no videos. Will keep my eye out! But man I love this pic! 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicDwolfwood Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 24 minutes ago, Andy14 said: Slash: "Hey, Axl" Axl: "Oh, shit! You again?" ... Slash: "Hmmm....delicious meat....did you cook it yourself" Axl: "Huh" Slash: "And the bread...is it homemade?" Axl: ... Axl: "How's Perla?" Slash: ... Slash: "I gotta go...it was nice talking to you" Axl: "Sure " Slash: "And the band?" Axl: "Duff will do it" Slash: "Deal" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hair of the dog Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 36 minutes ago, marlingrl03 said: This is the biggest version I have found so far...but no videos. Will keep my eye out! But man I love this pic! What a nice pic, thank you! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annablue Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 On 11/5/2016 at 1:15 PM, MillionsOfSpiders said: @Frey I don't like Courtney either, but she is very popular on the LA scene. She's very much a socialite who's always posting pictures of herself with the celebrities of the moment. She's part of that Jenner/Kardashian shit that Axl seems to be in with too. Courtney and Axls paths have more than likely crossed much more than we know over all these years, and he does right to be a bit afraid of her, I think Courtney could take Axl on I noticed on Stephanie's son Harry IG so many photos of Courtney and him together...it was a horrible exercise looking at all those photos especially his lifeless eyes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerenityScorp Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Kurt's tantrum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesecake Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 9 hours ago, Whiskey Rose said: Also, @cheesecake..re Axl's stomach..I think this could very well just be a digestion issue..alot of men in their later years get this "gorilla" type stomach, that can actually be firm to the touch! It's a result of a depletion of the necessary digestive enzymes, due to age, improper food combinations, even allergies. It results in chronic gas and bloat. It's possible Axl may have this issue, if he took off his shirt we would be able to examine more closely Anyway, I bet if he started taking some enzyme supplements it would help that belly. First of all, I still want to derail the thread a bit lol and hope it's not too tale, Happy Birthday @MillionsOfSpiders. Hope you had a good one! Thanks Whiskey Rose. Funny I've never thought of it from that angle, considering yours truly also suffers from multiple foods intolerance and allergies and has to take enzymes to help deal with it. Yeah I guess he may have issues with his digestion and I hope he gets that checked out and tries incorporating digestive enzymes into his diet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillionsOfSpiders Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) 12 hours ago, Andy14 said: Actually, it reminds me of this: also @MillionsOfSpiders Omg that is the best birthday card I ever got thank you so much for that @Andy14 Lol Izzy. Just got back in and see you all de railed the thread thank you all so much though I'm glad I get unlimited likes! Have we seen this one yet For the first time in years I can say Axls hair looks awesome! Also, it looks Like he's had it cut and styled.. like we said earlier in this thread, the exact style that was mentioned that he should get Now he's got the hair, what does he do? Covers it up with more damn hats Edited November 7, 2016 by MillionsOfSpiders 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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