GNR Women's discussion

[Whiskey Rose]

6 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

@Whiskey Rose  

LOL beard!! It's the sausage fingers and you know it 

I officially feel sick now 

 

lol, ok those as well. HAHA! sorry not sorry everyone!

[Jane M.]

This thread took a turn for the worse and I feel guilty.

Sorry everyone.

[Nightrain92]

1 hour ago, Fansince88 said:

Wait a minute..... looks like Axl is thinking about it here 

I think he is thinking more about the chocolate rather than about her 

 

i would never ever imagined that Axl and Erin "reunited" after their split in the nineties... 

[Rocketqueen76]

1 minute ago, Nightrain92 said:

I think he is thinking more about the chocolate rather than about her 

 

i would never ever imagined that Axl and Erin "reunited" after their split in the nineties... 

Yeah it looks like he wants her bag of sourpatch kids lol

"Just hand over the sours, and no one gets hurt."

[Kira]

9 hours ago, KiraMPD said:

Maybe I missed something cuz I don't see anyone saying that it's not okay to speculate either way. To me both scenarios equally as likely/unlikely because we don't have any evidence supporting either. So any theory we may come up with is just, as you say, speculation.

She could have deleted her IG because:

1. TB/Axl asking her to stop (as you have said).
2. Got into some beef with at someone in the GnR camp and decided to cut ties (interesting that she un-followed Slash and Meegan)
3. Somehow got some closure for that part in her life and wanted to move on.
4. She got tired of the trolls/fans/Axl-defenders/fans etc, bugging her for more juicy details.
5. Got tired of social media all together. Many people delete their social media accounts cuz it's fuckin exhausting to maintain it.
6. It wasn't really Erin to begin with!
7. She got hacked.
8. ...other crazy theories that I can't think of now.

Maybe we should convince someone to go to Atlanta and ask her. 

I think it's number one....but either she is still in contact with Axl or she had a falling out with Axl (again).  Hopefully, the former.  I mean, she was posting so many lovey, fond things about him on her IG, that I think they had to be in contact in some way.  To what extent we don't know.  But I like to imagine how it would be between them these days.  Older and wiser. 

[Nightrain92]

1 minute ago, Rocketqueen76 said:

Yeah it looks like he wants her bag of sourpatch kids lol

"Just hand over the sours, and no one gets hurt."

Ahahaha  exactly 

[Kira]

1 hour ago, Jane M. said:

So once upon a time there was a NITL type of reunion that ended in 2003? 

Interesting piece of information.????

Not that I don't want to believe it...but how would anyone know this?  Wasn't Erin married to someone else at this time?  Her older kids would have been young in 2003 right? 

[Tori72]

2 hours ago, killuridols said:

Cruel?

Are you serious?

Really.

Like...

I can't understand what you are driving at. Wanna elaborate?

[MillionsOfSpiders]

9 hours ago, Kira said:

Not that I don't want to believe it...but how would anyone know this?  Wasn't Erin married to someone else at this time?  Her older kids would have been young in 2003 right? 

If it was around the time of 01-03 then we know that Axls mental state was especially bad at that time, enough to want to go into hospital. Maybe somebody called her as a last resort to see if she could do anything? 

Its strange that when she went to see Axls show in 2011 she looked to have been really close to the stage. Close enough for Axl to be able to see her easily, I think. She wasn't bothered about him seeing her there?? 

[Fansince88]

Since he can be a little ummm.....unpredictable.....in his reactions yea, she had to have given some thought to him noticing her in the crowd. Or she knew it would be OK because of previous contact with him or his people.

After the 2011 concert, we started seeing a little more of Erin/GNR connections (although that may have just been because of more people on the internet/social media):  saying Axl didn't draw that graffiti on their garage, the auction, posting their wedding picture and so on......

Who would be the person to reach out to Erin as a last resort to help him in that time period??  I hope there was someone there trying to help him to that extent.

And I think they leave for Japan today...... check back later for the "Is Axl on the plane?" posts.  Love this band and their fans. 

[killuridols]

16 hours ago, Jane M. said:

So once upon a time there was a NITL type of reunion that ended in 2003? 

Interesting piece of information.????

I'd say more up to 2001-2002 but let's give Amy some rest.... She's not that wrong anyway.

15 hours ago, Kira said:

Not that I don't want to believe it...but how would anyone know this?  Wasn't Erin married to someone else at this time?  Her older kids would have been young in 2003 right? 

Maybe she's spoken to people..... She was open to the fans and have allowed them to her life.

Kids have nothing to do with that.

14 hours ago, Tori72 said:

I can't understand what you are driving at. Wanna elaborate?

That you cant be accusing Erin of being cruel to Axl because that's, literally a joke, after all of what he's done to her.
 

6 hours ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

If it was around the time of 01-03 then we know that Axls mental state was especially bad at that time, enough to want to go into hospital. Maybe somebody called her as a last resort to see if she could do anything? 

Its strange that when she went to see Axls show in 2011 she looked to have been really close to the stage. Close enough for Axl to be able to see her easily, I think. She wasn't bothered about him seeing her there?? 

Axl has gone lengths to get back with her after Stephanie. Unfortunately, timing was bad for Erin.

About 2011 show, I've been told she wasn't there for the entire gig.

 

[Tori72]

The whole Axl-Erin thing is weird to me anyway and I will never understand fully, why some people would love to see them together again, for example. I agree with you, @KillYourIdols,  that after all that Axl did to her, she cannot outstand him so quickly in terms of cruelty and abuse. I still think, showing and selling so many memories, fotos, letters after more than a decade is at least weird.

Even weirder to me is that somehow Erin still seems to be interested in being in contact with him. Exactly after all he did to her. Why? Why is she even still in the picture? I guess that comes with trauma, sometimes. It is difficult to fully let go. After all I read of her saying about the abuse I'd wish for her to fully let go.

I'd like to see another Meegan-type for Axl, but that is me dreaming, because I somewhat like her. 

Edited January 18, 2017 by Tori72

[Padme]

38 minutes ago, Tori72 said:

The whole Axl-Erin thing is weird to me anyway and I will never understand fully, why some people would love to see them together again, for example. I agree with you, @KillYourIdols,  that after all that Axl did to her, she cannot outstand him so quickly in terms of cruelty and abuse. I still think, showing and selling so many memories, fotos, letters after more than a decade is at least weird.

Even weirder to me is that somehow Erin still seems to be interested in being in contact with him. Exactly after all he did to her. Why? Why is she even still in the picture? I guess that comes with trauma, sometimes. It is difficult to fully let go. After all I read of her saying about the abuse I'd wish for her to fully let go.

I'd like to see another Meegan-type for Axl, but that is me dreaming, because I somewhat like her. 

Well I say about her what I said about Del James. When they began their relationship he was a nobody. And it was his longest serious relationship. Her other serious relantionships didn't end up well either. And seeing Axl with an escort now... I'd rather see him with Erin 

 

[Rocketqueen76]

4 minutes ago, Padme said:

Well I say about her what I said about Del James. When they began their relationship he was a nobody. And it was his longest serious relationship. Her other serious relantionships didn't end up well either. And seeing Axl with an escort now... I'd rather see him with Erin 

 

? "And now I don't know why....she wouldn't say goodbye. Could it be that I, I'd seen it in her eyes..." ?

[Padme]

1 minute ago, Rocketqueen76 said:

? "And now I don't know why....she wouldn't say goodbye. Could it be that I, I'd seen it in her eyes..." ?

I hate that song. I don't like that album at all

[Rocketqueen76]

Just now, Padme said:

I hate that song. I don't like that album at all

I don't like the whole album, but I do like This I Love. I'm a lyrics kind of girl and I like the underlying message of the song...it has lots of heart. The constant questioning of why would a person stay committed to something that doesn't work is very real.

[Fansince88]

 

 

1 hour ago, Tori72 said:

 

Even weirder to me is that somehow Erin still seems to be interested in being in contact with him. Exactly after all he did to her. Why? Why is she even still in the picture? I guess that comes with trauma, sometimes. It is difficult to fully let go. After all I read of her saying about the abuse I'd wish for her to fully let go.

I'd like to see another Meegan-type for Axl, but that is me dreaming, because I somewhat like her. 

 I wonder if Megan's relationship with Slash has something to do with that. Everyone has a few "what if" moments about their exes and if your friend is now living in that "what if" world, it may look better than it is or be at least a little bit tempting to go there yourself. Not knocking Erin because Lord knows I've forgotten what tools my exes were from time to time. 

[BlueJean Baby]

5 minutes ago, Rocketqueen76 said:

I don't like the whole album, but I do like This I Love. I'm a lyrics kind of girl and I like the underlying message of the song...it has lots of heart. The constant questioning of why would a person stay committed to something that doesn't work is very real.

I love the album.

And having lived six years in an abusive relationship, I get it. Strange as it sounds, I got lucky and he tried to kill me which in turn made me realize I couldn't go back. Living like that can really screw you up, when I got away from it, I was actually blaming myself for everything until it got really bad and then I realized it was not me at all. Only thing is my ex was truly insane and evil, he did awful things to me and our son, now all I feel is hate for him.

Note that I am NOT in anyway, relating my ex to Axl, I truly do not believe he is that way at all. Actually, I think he is a lot like me, full of love for the right person, but not able to find them. Believe me it sucks, you end up with people trying to use you for their own personal gain and that are not capable of giving you the love you need, so it all just implodes... but life goes on and you find yourself just trying to get through it with the least resistance even though you want more out of life.

[Padme]

4 minutes ago, Fansince88 said:

 

 

 I wonder if Megan's relationship with Slash has something to do with that. Everyone has a few "what if" moments about their exes and if your friend is now living in that "what if" world, it may look better than it is or be at least a little bit tempting to go there yourself. Not knocking Erin because Lord knows I've forgotten what tools my exes were from time to time. 

Well in her social media (I don't know at what point exactly) She was supportive of Axl. And that was before Slash and Meegan restarted their relantionship.

[Fansince88]

Oh Sorry!  I thought that the post of their wedding picture and the comment about Steph's son came after they were together. I didn't realize there was stuff before that.  There were just so many years of having no GNR news to keep track of I'm not used to having so much going on. 

[Frey]

@Fansince88 There was quite a bit of nice, forgiving stuff long before the thing with Seymour's son. Erin's been supportive of Axl for a couple of years.

 

1 hour ago, Padme said:

Well I say about her what I said about Del James. When they began their relationship he was a nobody. And it was his longest serious relationship. Her other serious relantionships didn't end up well either. And seeing Axl with an escort now... I'd rather see him with Erin

Yeah, me too. I wouldn't wish a woman like Sasha on any guy.

But since the Erin thing is unlikely to work out, I'm #TeamGina now lol.

(Nevermind the fact that this happening is much more unlikely than the Erin thing even...)

 

As for the Erin and Axl thing still going on in the early 2000s... Well, I can't really see Erin cheating on her husband with Axl. The only thing I could see was Axl still stalking her and trying to get back with her like he did in the 90s. Erin has talked about this before and I wouldn't be surprised if Axl was still doing that even then.

But I get the impression @killuridols would know more about that

 

 

 

[Rocketqueen76]

1 hour ago, BlueJean Baby said:

I love the album.

And having lived six years in an abusive relationship, I get it. Strange as it sounds, I got lucky and he tried to kill me which in turn made me realize I couldn't go back. Living like that can really screw you up, when I got away from it, I was actually blaming myself for everything until it got really bad and then I realized it was not me at all. Only thing is my ex was truly insane and evil, he did awful things to me and our son, now all I feel is hate for him.

Note that I am NOT in anyway, relating my ex to Axl, I truly do not believe he is that way at all. Actually, I think he is a lot like me, full of love for the right person, but not able to find them. Believe me it sucks, you end up with people trying to use you for their own personal gain and that are not capable of giving you the love you need, so it all just implodes... but life goes on and you find yourself just trying to get through it with the least resistance even though you want more out of life.

 I watched my mother go through it so I get it too....there were times I just wanted to pull my hair out or gladly wind up behind bars for doing my mom's ex some serious damage. But finally she found the resolve to get away and now she is very happy in her life.

[BlueJean Baby]

11 minutes ago, Rocketqueen76 said:

 I watched my mother go through it so I get it too....there were times I just wanted to pull my hair out or gladly wind up behind bars for doing my mom's ex some serious damage. But finally she found the resolve to get away and now she is very happy in her life.

Yeah my son threatened his dad a few years ago and now has also cut all ties with him.

I get why Axl may be hiring escorts, if i had money I might too. I was single for 7 years and tried remarrying someone else, huge mistake. I honestly think I may have just been lonely and couldn't find what I was looking for. Now I am getting my second divorce after trying for 18 years with the wrong person again...you start feeling hopeless and do something stupid and it's not worth it.

[killuridols]

2 hours ago, Tori72 said:

The whole Axl-Erin thing is weird to me anyway and I will never understand fully, why some people would love to see them together again, for example. I agree with you, @KillYourIdols,  that after all that Axl did to her, she cannot outstand him so quickly in terms of cruelty and abuse. I still think, showing and selling so many memories, fotos, letters after more than a decade is at least weird.

Even weirder to me is that somehow Erin still seems to be interested in being in contact with him. Exactly after all he did to her. Why? Why is she even still in the picture? I guess that comes with trauma, sometimes. It is difficult to fully let go. After all I read of her saying about the abuse I'd wish for her to fully let go.

I'd like to see another Meegan-type for Axl, but that is me dreaming, because I somewhat like her. 

There's not much to understand about the romanticizing of a love story that unchained good and bad and its more like a soap opera for the fans than anything else.

Erin is the muse for so many GN'R songs that it is only natural that we think of her as Axl's soulmate, more precisely because the guy's love life has been a failure since then and he never had with another woman what he had with Erin. I'm talking about getting married and trying to have children. It is the mourning for a relationship that we know had potential to save him (if that baby had survived) from all the crap he went through in the 90's.
It's just a collective idea..... it may have not worked at all, anyway.
It didnt' work for Kurt. He killed himself in spite of having a beautiful baby already.

For most people it seems not logical what Erin does but from the information I have, most people do not read it in the correct way.
What she wants is closure and peace and forgiveness.
This kind of peace you get after working a lot in yourself, through therapy and meditation and from embracing non-western approaches to trauma.

It is possible to forgive someone who's damaged you so much, which doesn't mean you forget of what they've done.
Buddhism and other philosophies teach you humbling and love, in ways that you don't know until you've tried to go more spiritual.

This complexity is hard to understand for most people educated in western society and that's why most fans choose to think she's crazy and weird and acting like she should not.
But they forget that every person is entitled to fight their traumas, dramas and demons in whatever way they can find, as long as it doesn't harm them or others.
 

42 minutes ago, Frey said:

As for the Erin and Axl thing still going on in the early 2000s... Well, I can't really see Erin cheating on her husband with Axl. The only thing I could see was Axl still stalking her and trying to get back with her like he did in the 90s. Erin has talked about this before and I wouldn't be surprised if Axl was still doing that even then.

But I get the impression @killuridols would know more about that

Yeah, it's more to do with trying to get back with her because she's the one he knew does love him for real and was there before everything and everyone.

Erin was busy having kids and a family and trying to heal her enourmous heartbreak. Bad timing for both of them, unfortunately.

 

[Jane M.]

I hope Erin finally has the peace, closure and forgiveness that she wants. Can't be easy being linked to GNR/Axl and everything that involves over and over and over.