Eric Cantona Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) Edit: Third & final mix. Drums are louder @- antem's fill before the solo is louder. Rerecorded the solo. Edited September 17, 2016 by AslatIE moar platforms = moar monay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Słash Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Not bad man, but you really should change the guitar tone for the solo's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cantona Posted June 21, 2016 Author Share Posted June 21, 2016 14 minutes ago, Slash787 said: Not bad man, but you really should change the guitar tone for the solo's Robin used the wahwah on his solo, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfAGun Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Hi @AslatIE, I have had a listen to this, it is not bad for a first attempt; I can definitely offer some pointers. Would be able to send me the mp3? I would like to have a look at frequency spectrum to offer advice on what sounds like a build up of around 1-200 hz, but it is easier to do this when I can see the frequency response of your mix. It would also be helpful to know what your signal chain is, the software you use to record and the hardware (interface etc). Some high level stuff to start of with: Too much reverb on the intro guitar, you need to use reverb to create a space for your track to exist in, too much and your guitar will sound at the back of the mix. Not sure if this effect was printed onto your recording (guitar effect), or if you added it after. The vocals are buried in the mix. This can be hard to get right, vocals should be at the "front" of a mix, without floating over the music. You have the added complication of working with a processed vocal track, so any corrective eq, or effects like delay is not an option. I do think that having themy a touch louder in the mix will cure this though. You have some jarring transitions, particularly where the solo starts and ends, not sure how this has happened, maybe you can detail your editing/arrangement process here. The other observation was that I could not hear the bass. The low end is one the hardest things to get right; you need a punchy low end that does not sound muddy, and without good headphones/monitor speakers, you may struggle with this. Send me the mp3 and if you can provide more detail I'll try to give you more pointers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cantona Posted July 11, 2016 Author Share Posted July 11, 2016 On 30.6.2016 at 9:18 PM, SoundOfAGun said: Hi @AslatIE, I have had a listen to this, it is not bad for a first attempt; I can definitely offer some pointers. Would be able to send me the mp3? I would like to have a look at frequency spectrum to offer advice on what sounds like a build up of around 1-200 hz, but it is easier to do this when I can see the frequency response of your mix. It would also be helpful to know what your signal chain is, the software you use to record and the hardware (interface etc). Some high level stuff to start of with: Too much reverb on the intro guitar, you need to use reverb to create a space for your track to exist in, too much and your guitar will sound at the back of the mix. Not sure if this effect was printed onto your recording (guitar effect), or if you added it after. The vocals are buried in the mix. This can be hard to get right, vocals should be at the "front" of a mix, without floating over the music. You have the added complication of working with a processed vocal track, so any corrective eq, or effects like delay is not an option. I do think that having themy a touch louder in the mix will cure this though. You have some jarring transitions, particularly where the solo starts and ends, not sure how this has happened, maybe you can detail your editing/arrangement process here. The other observation was that I could not hear the bass. The low end is one the hardest things to get right; you need a punchy low end that does not sound muddy, and without good headphones/monitor speakers, you may struggle with this. Send me the mp3 and if you can provide more detail I'll try to give you more pointers. I don't have the mp3 right now, as I'm on my phone. I just got finished "re"mixing the song. I agree with the reverb in the intro, and I seem to have fixed that in my new mix, if I'm hearing correctly. (The reverb was added after I recorded the guitar track) The vocals are now "up front" and not buried in the mix, again, if my ears aren't deceiving me. The jarring at the end of the intro, beginning and at the end of the solo are fixed (ears blabla) and sounds a lot better. Bass fixed. I also added a better drum track, because the Guitar Pro version didn't sound thaaat good. Will be uploading the new mix very soon, and if we're satisfied with it, I'll get working on the acoustic versions of CD & Perfect Crime. The recording software I used for the instruments was Rocksmith (lol) and for mixing I used Audacity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cantona Posted July 11, 2016 Author Share Posted July 11, 2016 New version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfAGun Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Hey @AslatIE, I have just seen your update on this, I will have a listen to this tonight. It sounds like you are working with a very limited tool set! You can get the DAW Reaper on a fully functional perpetual trial (or at least you used to), or pay a small amount for the license, it should serve you better than Audacity. You should also look at getting an interface if you can; once you can plug your guitar into an interface, you can use all the free amp sims available (Le Pou, Ignite Amps, Amplitube Free etc.). Some of them sound pretty convincing. Happy to help out further if you decide to buy/try any of the gear mentioned! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfAGun Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 OK, I had a chance to listen to the updated mix; first of all, I think you are doing a really good job with tools you have. I can hear the vocals now! They may be a bit too loud now though, do you have all the separate vocal tracks to use in your mix? If you do, try knocking back the high octave vocal and the lower octave vocal tracks down in volume a little bit so they sit below the main vocal. If you can route tracks to a bus or auxiliary track, you can group the vocals under one bus/auxiliary (and bass, guitars etc) and then use that bus/auxiliary as an overall volume for that group of tracks in your mix. You can also apply EQ and compression to that bus auxiliary which can help glue the tracks together. I can hear the bass now, but it seems a bit muddy; try taking some of the low mids out of the bass track with an EQ to clean it up a bit. This may also help on your overall track if you haven't high passed your guitars with an EQ. In the solo section, do you have the right side guitar playing the solo? Try recording a rhythm guitar part for the right hand side during the solo section and then pan your solo track so it is in the centre. This will thicken the solo section up and will mean that your solo takes centre stage. Keep up the good work! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumble's Bridge Pickup Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Nice job. I think you need some work with your bends and note choices: you go notably off key in the solos. Do you know some very basic theory, like what scale(s) you would choose to use to solo over this song? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cantona Posted July 19, 2016 Author Share Posted July 19, 2016 3 hours ago, Bumble's Bridge Pickup said: Nice job. I think you need some work with your bends and note choices: you go notably off key in the solos. Do you know some very basic theory, like what scale(s) you would choose to use to solo over this song? Haven't gotten around to learning music theory yet. The only bend that I notice might be slightly off key is the very first one in the solo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumble's Bridge Pickup Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 True, but e.g. the bends at 2:10 and 3:18 are also a bit off. I would really recommend starting from the concept of minor pentatonic scales. Minor pentatonic scales are the bread and butter of rock and metal guitar playing. You could use the D minor pentatonic scale to solo over this song. Don't take any of this negatively, I don't mean to insult you 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlsFavoriteRose Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 (edited) On 6/21/2016 at 1:39 PM, AslatIE said: Edit: Third & final mix. Drums are louder @- antem's fill before the solo is louder. Rerecorded the solo. this is really good! Edited August 22, 2016 by AxlsFavoriteRose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cantona Posted August 17, 2016 Author Share Posted August 17, 2016 Just now, AxlsFavoriteRose said: this is really good! Thank you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlsFavoriteRose Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Just now, AslatIE said: Thank you you're welcome but i mean it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlsFavoriteRose Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 On 8/17/2016 at 1:54 PM, AslatIE said: Thank you you've made me like CD which i never thought i would so good job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cantona Posted September 26, 2016 Author Share Posted September 26, 2016 Getting tempted to rerecord this, because I'm not even close to satisfied with this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlsFavoriteRose Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, AslatIE said: Getting tempted to rerecord this, because I'm not even close to satisfied with this. that would be cool! i think it's good as is but you're the musician but more new stuff too Edited September 26, 2016 by AxlsFavoriteRose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlsFavoriteRose Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 plus you did something i never thought would happen...you made me actually LIKE this song 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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