DieselDaisy Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Axl used ''good/best'' guitarists as criteria for his ''nu'' line-ups, case in point technical leviathans such as Buckethead and Bumblefoot. Look where that policy got him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tkarmy Posted July 3, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2016 gawd im so over all the izzy love. Don't get me wrong, i love what izzy contributed to guns but come on with all the HE IS GNR yadda yadda.. he's solo albums are pretty shit imo ... he didn't show up for the illusions recording and nothing he has done post gnr has suggested he would be in any way reliable for a 3 million a show tour. What more could you ask for from richard. the guy is a monster player, amazing show man and loyal to fault..... get over 1991 already 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosso Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 1 hour ago, Slash787 said: Nothing against Fortus, as I mentioned before that Fortus is the best NuGNR guitarist, he should have played the Lead instead of Robin. My main problem is people comparing Fortus with Izzy. I am not the manager of the band or their legal representative but as a fan Izzy should have been called to join the band if Izzy declined cause of the money then he did nothing wrong, he deserves a equal share too. Fortus is a great guitarist, no doubt about that, but well Joe Satriani is a great guitarist too. Personally Izzy has a better stage presence, his style his cool and laid back. Being a fan of Izzy and Steven, in my eyes they deserved to be there, especially Steven. Im not anti Gilby nor I am Anti Fortus, Ive met both of them and both of them were nice to me. I don't wanna undermine Izzy's role in GN'Rs history. But I'm realistic. I know that Izzy has zero interest in GnR right now (And I don't think that this will change in the next couple of years). I'm just happy for Richard that he is a part of the NITL tour. He deserves it to be in one band with Slash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerInThisTown Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Fortus is technically more accomplished, but Izzy is a great songwriter. Unless Fortus proves his songwriting on the next GNR album he will always be the shadow of izzy no one really cares about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 (edited) 38 minutes ago, tkarmy said: he's solo albums are pretty shit imo I'm glad you said, 'in my opinion'. 38 minutes ago, tkarmy said: he didn't show up for the illusions recording Untrue. Of thirty songs on Use Your Illusion, Stradlin is only absent on four of them (The Garden, Civil War, Locomotive, My World) as well as contributing twelve songwriting credits and four 'lead vocal' contributions. The idea that ''Izzy didn't show up for Illusions'' is another Axl/Slash lie I'm afraid. Edited July 3, 2016 by DieselDaisy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 3 hours ago, Sosso said: So you are anti Gilby as well? Izzy himself said that he has zero interest so Fortus is the next best thing to him. Izzy has never once said he has zero interest in a reunion. He's actually been quoted as saying he would have interest in taking part in it because he wrote a great deal of the material. Even Marc canter has confirmed that on this very forum. Also, have you seen izzys tweets on his official Twitter? The song lyrics, the now incredibly random song with of all people Matt sorum? If anything it tells us izzy is pretty pissed that Axl slash and duff reformed their partnership and didn't include him because he actually is into it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillionsOfSpiders Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 When has Izzy ever said he has zero interest in GNR? The way he's acting at the moment, I would say it's the exact opposite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 I love Richard Izzy is the man too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F*ck Fear Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Would I love for Izzy to be on that stage right now? Absolutely. However, Richard has been in Guns N' Roses since 2002. He's been doing an amazing job since the day he joined. As far as I am concerned he belongs on the same stage as the original 3. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanity_lost Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 I think Richard does well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RONIN Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, DieselDaisy said: I'm glad you said, 'in my opinion'. Untrue. Of thirty songs on Use Your Illusion, Stradlin is only absent on four of them (The Garden, Civil War, Locomotive, My World) as well as contributing twelve songwriting credits and four 'lead vocal' contributions. The idea that ''Izzy didn't show up for Illusions'' is another Axl/Slash lie I'm afraid. Didn't Izzy write Locomotive with Slash in Chicago? It's a common complaint here against Izzy. In his 1991 interviews, Izzy mentions that he finished some of those illusion songs years before the rest of the band started working on them. By the time Axl and co. started working on those songs, Izzy was already one foot out the door. The man did his job -- it's not his fault that the band was dysfunctional. Why penalize him? He was forced to leave the band he helped create for the sake of his own survival. Duff and Slash nearly died several times on the UYI tour....sounds to me like Izzy left at the right time. Edited July 3, 2016 by RONIN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parisrocks Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Richard Fortus is fucking great! He is def the Ron Wood of GN'R (well-suited replacement that feels like the original) Whoever said Gilby > Richard should be smacked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Great player, great guy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ak1nney Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 It's never about Izzy vs Richard. Richard seems like a nice guy and has great taste in guitar/amps (Gretsch/Supro). He is a good entertainer and a great player. I appreciate his role in the band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncientEvil80 Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Excellent guitarist. But as long as he's playing in the band, it ain't GNR. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vloors Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 I think his a pretty good replacement. Izzy isnt coming back people. He left guns, he left juju hounds, he left velvet revolver. I dont think his reliable and axl isnt going to sack someone like richard thats been in the band for how many years?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 From Axl's demeanor at CE I doubt they F'd Izzy over, he chose not to be in this band, for similar reasons to back in the day. He doesn't want to be in a big touring rock band. There's definitely GNR classic which I doubt Izzy really interested in. Nov Rain & Coma, Estranged. To take this out on Fortus is lame. He can play all the material and seems a good fit for this new line up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caraibes Posted July 3, 2016 Author Share Posted July 3, 2016 (edited) Richard Fortus can write some KILLER guitar riffs, melodies and songs. Classic Rock vibe. He wrote TONS of songs, riffs, leads, solos and licks for the next GN'R records... it's just in the vault, ready to get released. When the next Guns N' Roses record is out, the haters will feel humiliated... humiliated by so much talent. Check this out... it's something called... TALENT! Edited July 3, 2016 by Caraibes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendestroi95 Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Best choice if izzy is not there Screw gilby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jekylhyde Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Fortus FTW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Słash Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 19 minutes ago, Caraibes said: The haters will feel humiliated... humiliated by so much talent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jafeijo Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 The guy has nice guitar skills, really solid player. Very strange stage presence tho, sometimes I wonder if Ashba's teached him some moves lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War2k14 Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 To be fair I haven't heard a good soundboard mix of how fortus and slash work together. Fortus always seemed drowned out in new GNR. He's one hell of a showman tho and great on lead. The band does seem to be settling into a grove now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferma Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Gotta chime in here. Fortus is a great player, performer and songwriter. Really like his stuff with Dead Daisies. Ultimately, I think people need to consider Slash and Duff on the matter; if Fortus was really crap, he wouldn't be playing these shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigpoop Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 1 hour ago, ferma said: Ultimately, I think people need to consider Slash and Duff on the matter; if Fortus was really crap, he wouldn't be playing these shows. I wouldn't bet on that. Axl is clearly in charge of this whole thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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