Modano09 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 Just now, Apollo said: Would you agree that Steven accomplished more in GnR than the other four drummers have? Do you think that the reason Axl has had a revolving door of drummers is because he keeps searching for a guy who can replicate Adler's sound? Do you agree that Adler played an important role in creating the sound that made Appetite one of the greatest rock albums of all time? Do you understand why fans of Guns n Roses would love to see an original member back playing with the band? The joy of seeing Slash back. The joy of seeing Duff back. Surely you understand why fans would prefer the entire band reunite and not just half of it. Yes? Yes, but Matt recorded and toured Illusions, so it's closer than you think. No, off all the original members Adler's likely the one Axl's missed the least. Yes. Do you understand that the right thing to do and what you want them to do are not one in the same? Do you understand that Adler was such a raging addict he was thrown out of a band of raging addicts? And he spent 25 years pointing fingers and whining about it? And he's been "2 years sober" for 25 years? And he's burned members of the band that gave him a chance in recent years? And it's entirely reasonable to not put a tour like this in his hands? And he's lucky to get the guest spots that he does? This tour could easily go on without him it's not like they need him there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ironmt Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 6 hours ago, Nikki_Sixx said: Get your facts straight. You couldn't be more wrong. My facts are more than accurate. Shuffling the order of songs and adding songs to the setlist Is two different things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Padme Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 1 hour ago, Modano09 said: I'll re-phrase. Nobody bought a ticket on the odd chance he would be there and nobody would have gone home unhappy if he wasn't. But they went home happier because they got the chance to see Adler. Sure they didn't buy a ticket knowing that Adler was gonna be there . But it is always good to get something extra that you like 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillionsOfSpiders Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 4 minutes ago, Slash787 said: I hate to say it, but Axl sounds really bad to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Apollo Posted November 5, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2016 4 minutes ago, gnr5 said: Can we change the name of this forum to MyGnrComplainForum??? Whaaaa Whaaa cal the whammbulance It would be OK if people just had normal conversations about everything. Not everybody thinks every show is perfect. And it's OK for 30 year fans of the band to wish that the classic lineup was involved. Healthy debate and disagreement is perfectly fine. Unfortunately people can't seem to do that without stating how angry they are that people disagree with them. And then have to call people names and start throwing out the insults. People need to stop being so angry and just have civilized discussions with other GnR fans. Nothing people read on a fan forum should make them angry or lesson their enjoyment of Axl being on tour. It's just rock and roll music at the end of the day. It's ok if people have different opinions about it. Cant we all just get along!!!!!!!!!!! ***** I think the Frankenstein lineup, ticket prices and lack of new music is a bit of a joke. But it's awesome to have Slash and Duff back. Sacking DJ was a blessing. It's cool that Axl is touring and 40,000 people a night are enjoying it. Better to have Axl touring than having him disappear for years. There is a lot of greatness about this tour. But a lot of people are dissapointed because it could have been even better than it is. Imagine If it involved Adler and Izzy and the tour was supporting a new GnR album. Just my opinion. Please don't be angry about it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Apollo Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 11 minutes ago, Modano09 said: Yes, but Matt recorded and toured Illusions, so it's closer than you think. No, off all the original members Adler's likely the one Axl's missed the least. Yes. Do you understand that the right thing to do and what you want them to do are not one in the same? Do you understand that Adler was such a raging addict he was thrown out of a band of raging addicts? And he spent 25 years pointing fingers and whining about it? And he's been "2 years sober" for 25 years? And he's burned members of the band that gave him a chance in recent years? And it's entirely reasonable to not put a tour like this in his hands? And he's lucky to get the guest spots that he does? This tour could easily go on without him it's not like they need him there. now that's a post I can get behind. I agree with almost all you said. ?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikki_Sixx Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 3 hours ago, xBrownstonex said: Life doesnt owe you anything. Neither do GNR or Steven. Why would you waste so much energy in getting fed up about things, when there is so much greatness to enjoy? Explain to me what all that 'greatness' is you're talking about ? You saw GNR in '93, so I'm very curious to hear what you have to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericy210 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 8 hours ago, BorderlineCrazy said: Well, the show was fn' unbelievable!! I somehow managed to survive (the first 20 minutes were WILD!). Axl sounded amazing, gave a great show and seemed to put all his heart when singing Coma, it was awesome. Duff was everyfuckingwhere! You could see he was having a blast, jumping and interacting with the crowd a lot. He just rocks! Slash was again the king of the show, it was ridiculous! His playing was brilliant throughout the entire gig but his attitude was even better. Seeing him running around, dancing and jumping was just amazing. During Paradise City, he was singing his chorus ("where the girls are fat and they've got big titties") and even did a boobs gesture. I could totally see how happy and excited he was and that made me happy as well. Slash is a fn' monster! Steven was completely wonderful. Even though they only let him play one song, he brought all his beautiful energy and it was magical. I think what the band did was cruel to him and to us fans as we were making it clear how much we love Steven, screaming for him like there was no tomorrow. At the end of the show, when the band was gonna do the vow, Steven came out with a football/soccer ball and kicked it into the crowd. What can I say? He rocked Out Ta Get Me and he's an incredible human being! Really hope they won't be such dickheads to him tomorrow, it's completely awful and unnecesary and today it was the only thing that prevented the show from being perfect. Overall it was a sick show! I got to see GNR playing Coma and got to see Steven with them. I'm dead tired now (5 am here in Argentina!) and I gotta get some rest 'cause I'm doing it all again tomorrow, but I can't leave without saying this was the best show I've ever seen! I love this band with all my heart, it sucks that tomorrow is the last show for me but at the same time, whether they do 3 shows or 30 here in Argentina, I could never have enough of Guns N' Roses. Good night, guys! Thanks for an actual review of the show instead of repeating the same debates over and over that will never reach a conclusion. I'm glad you had fun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksks12 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 21 minutes ago, Modano09 said: Yes, but Matt recorded and toured Illusions, so it's closer than you think. No, off all the original members Adler's likely the one Axl's missed the least. Yes. Do you understand that the right thing to do and what you want them to do are not one in the same? Do you understand that Adler was such a raging addict he was thrown out of a band of raging addicts? And he spent 25 years pointing fingers and whining about it? And he's been "2 years sober" for 25 years? And he's burned members of the band that gave him a chance in recent years? And it's entirely reasonable to not put a tour like this in his hands? And he's lucky to get the guest spots that he does? This tour could easily go on without him it's not like they need him there. Wow, you seriously look like you have some kind of personal problems. Big ones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanity_lost Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 @Slash787 Thanks for posting the videos! It is quite possibly the best contribution to the thread since before the concert started. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Słash Posted November 5, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2016 1 minute ago, sanity_lost said: @Slash787 Thanks for posting the videos! It is quite possibly the best contribution to the thread since before the concert started. Thanks man. @KeyserSoze and @Gibbo do an amazing job too by posting videos and pics. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xBrownstonex Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 8 minutes ago, Nikki_Sixx said: Explain to me what all that 'greatness' is you're talking about ? You saw GNR in '93, so I'm very curious to hear what you have to say. Yes i did see them back in the day and was a fan when the illusions came out. I know what it was like to be a gnr fan back then, when slash, duff and axl ruled the world. And i also know what it was like to see axl performing without them. Slash and Axl on the same stage was something that was beyond unrealistic, but it has always been a dream for fans. The fact that we are allowed to wittness it now, is greatness. Its funny that i even have to explain that to you. Maybe you would understand , if you have witnessed the magnitude back then. What we will remember in 20 years from now on, is how great their reuniom has been. Nobody will remember, that steven only played one fucking song at a show in buenos aires, cause thats not the things that will be remembered. What we will remember is that slash and axl gave fans what we have been hoping for for the past 23 years. And while that happens, i am going to enjoy every second of it and not waste my precious time whining like a bitch about unimportant shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikki_Sixx Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 29 minutes ago, ironmt said: My facts are more than accurate. Shuffling the order of songs and adding songs to the setlist Is two different things. Ok sir. Here's the number of different songs they played on the UYI tour : 48 Here's the number of different songs they played on the Axl Rose + assorted musicians tour : 33 Thank you. Good fucking night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 34 minutes ago, Modano09 said: Yes, but Matt recorded and toured Illusions, so it's closer than you think. No, off all the original members Adler's likely the one Axl's missed the least. Yes. Do you understand that the right thing to do and what you want them to do are not one in the same? Do you understand that Adler was such a raging addict he was thrown out of a band of raging addicts? And he spent 25 years pointing fingers and whining about it? And he's been "2 years sober" for 25 years? And he's burned members of the band that gave him a chance in recent years? And it's entirely reasonable to not put a tour like this in his hands? And he's lucky to get the guest spots that he does? This tour could easily go on without him it's not like they need him there. As a fan, of course I'd want to see more of Adler. But you raise valid points here. Whether it's all true or not, probably depends on who you ask in the band, etc....but I think you're close to the reality of the situation. Most of all, Frank has been doing a solid job and he's dependable. He's been in G N' R for a while now, Axl and the rest of the band (including Slash and Duff) seem to trust and like him. This tour has been a massive success on all levels so why risk anything at this point if you don't need to? And yeah, based on past history, having Adler full time could be a risk. I personally wouldn't mind him doing more songs but that's 100% up to the band and what they're comfortable with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 (edited) 21 minutes ago, xBrownstonex said: Yes i did see them back in the day and was a fan when the illusions came out. I know what it was like to be a gnr fan back then, when slash, duff and axl ruled the world. And i also know what it was like to see axl performing without them. Slash and Axl on the same stage was something that was beyond unrealistic, but it has always been a dream for fans. The fact that we are allowed to wittness it now, is greatness. Its funny that i even have to explain that to you. Maybe you would understand , if you have witnessed the magnitude back then. What we will remember in 20 years from now on, is how great their reuniom has been. Nobody will remember, that steven only played one fucking song at a show in buenos aires, cause thats not the things that will be remembered. What we will remember is that slash and axl gave fans what we have been hoping for for the past 23 years. And while that happens, i am going to enjoy every second of it and not waste my precious time whining like a bitch about unimportant shit. And Steven should be allowed to fully be a part of this celebration. It's funny that we even have to explain that...to you. Also: if the reason for 1 tune is in fact Axl, then it's really not "unimportant shit" for many fans, as his performance was very important to fans in this show and others as you know. Another Steven song would have made it a better show for them. And probably for Steven and he just deserves better treatment. He only gets to taste it. (fans as well) Edited November 5, 2016 by Rovim 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 I'm still waiting on the Asia leg to blow this leg out of the water performance wise. But these crowds are like nothing else...however I'm convinced Axl is holding a little bit back currently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 39 minutes ago, Slash787 said: The additional musician who plays rhythm guitar here should stop playing the intro that way. It's fucking horrid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikki_Sixx Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 14 minutes ago, xBrownstonex said: Yes i did see them back in the day and was a fan when the illusions came out. I know what it was like to be a gnr fan back then, when slash, duff and axl ruled the world. And i also know what it was like to see axl performing without them. Slash and Axl on the same stage was something that was beyond unrealistic, but it has always been a dream for fans. The fact that we are allowed to wittness it now, is greatness. Its funny that i even have to explain that to you. Maybe you would understand , if you have witnessed the magnitude back then. What we will remember in 20 years from now on, is how great their reuniom has been. Nobody will remember, that steven only played one fucking song at a show in buenos aires, cause thats not the things that will be remembered. What we will remember is that slash and axl gave fans what we have been hoping for for the past 23 years. And while that happens, i am going to enjoy every second of it and not waste my precious time whining like a bitch about unimportant shit. I've been a fan since June of 1991, I know very well what it was like when GNR ruled the world. I didn't see them live (too young), you did and that's why I value your opinion. But you're wrong. I for one will not remember how great this reunion has been 20 years from now. I will treasure what they did between '85 and '95, and I will try to forget the embarrasment of everything that happened after that. The 14 years of pain between '01 and '14. The disgrace of this 'threeunion'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nikki_Sixx Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 1 hour ago, Modano09 said: Because he's not a member of the band. Neither are Fortus and Ferrer. Please remove them from the bow lineup at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post marlingrl03 Posted November 5, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2016 I needed some happy pics to look at cause this thread has given me a damn headache.... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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