maxpax Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 (edited) Actually it doesn't matter cause the most disappointing thing about is: the musical changes by slash and Duff on CD songs are simply boring...and imo they shouldn't play these songs, cause they left the band because of this musical direction. Edited July 16, 2016 by maxpax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerInThisTown Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, maxpax said: Actually it doesn't matter cause the most disappointing thing about is: the musical changes by slash and Duff on CD songs are simply boring...and imo they shouldn't play these songs, cause they left the band because of this musical direction. If you read the chinese whispers/ slashs book the main reason slash left was because he felt they were being "force fed a guy who didnt deserve to be in Guns (Paul Huge). Duff left later because "it just wasnt fun anymore". Axl and slash were actually seeing eye to eye in 1996 when they wrote some material (that we have yet to hear) but slash simply couldnt take Paul Huge anymore. Axl approved of Slashs blues rock songs that they worked on shortly before he left. Edited July 16, 2016 by StrangerInThisTown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philipm787 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 3 hours ago, EvH said: Well, we'll have to agree to disagree. I think Anastasia is massively overratee on this board. A great riff (one of Slash's best) but the song goes nowhere and I could do without the mindless noodling. And those lyrics I think AL and WOF are two huge step downs from Slash 2010 album. Boring, bland and predictable songs for the most part. Although I like Wicked Stone, BTSS and Bad Rain. Well, as you said, we'll have to agree to disagree. I think Anastasia is by far and away better than any 'rocker' on Chinese. And I feel that AL and WoF were massive steps up from his solo album, which I liked but didn't love. Just goes to show how subjective music is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DieselDaisy Posted July 16, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2016 Anastasia is a (guitar) masterpiece!! Somewhat agree about its lyrics but then, with guitar like that, who cares? 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 I think it shows respect for the work Axl has done with GNR and kind of dispells some of the perceived negativity between Axl and Slash. Instead of playing into the hate. Even with Steven. A lot has been said. But a few shows and suddenly it's feels better. It's all about the reunion tour. Getting a more positive vibe is jist better all round. And they are just rock songs. CD are quality songs just not done in a style every one likes. That comes through when Slash rocks them out a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kula2006 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Axl agreeing to sing Slither (in principal) is a far more curious step as Slash playing CD songs - as Slither has nothing to do with GnR in any way or form. Woud be great if axl would sing it on tour to show some respect to all what Slash/Duff did musically after they left guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 1 hour ago, Slash787 said: Well why not add some VR songs or Slash's solo songs? some of them are better than the stuff on CD. Now don't give me that bullshit that those songs are not under the GNR name. VR had 3 GNR members and Axl's band had only ONE. Yeah they have Slither on ALT. But songs like Ghost, Anastasia, Crucify the Dead are much better than Sorry and Chinese Democracy Quid pro quo. It would same same the diplomatic gesture? A sort of, merging of the two rival factions. Currently, two Nugnr hacks and the girl, a handful of Chinese songs, the reunion is very Nugnr top heavy. A VR song or two would go far in balancing things out. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, Kula2006 said: Axl agreeing to sing Slither (in principal) is a far more curious step as Slash playing CD songs - as Slither has nothing to do with GnR in any way or form. Woud be great if axl would sing it on tour to show some respect to all what Slash/Duff did musically after they left guns. ...except having, writing and recording it, what the majority of sensible people consider 2/5ths of Guns N' Roses - and a well remembered replacement from the Illusion era to boot? Nugnr was only 1/5th! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thunderram Posted July 16, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2016 (edited) As many have pointed out already, SLASH and DUFF learned the songs on their own -- without AXL's insistence. I'm guessing they both decided upon songs that they liked and/or thought they could perform well or could add something to. For instance, I'm willing to bet the intro to 'Better' was something they came up with on their own while rehearsing and AXL really liked it. The notion that SLASH would shut up and do what AXL would tell him to do seems rather shortsighted considering that he was more than willing to leave the band at it's height and stay gone for 20 years due to similar reasons. For all we know, they are all compromising a bit. SLASH and DUFF are probably playing songs to appease AXL and vice versa. AXL already stated that 'Coma' was for SLASH and the fans. The Godfather Theme back in the set is also another compromise from AXL, as are things such as starting the sets on time and not a lot of banter in between songs. The fact that 'Slither' is even in the ALT setlist also says a lot -- even if they've yet to perform it. Edited July 17, 2016 by thunderram 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilnor Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 1 hour ago, BadApples87 said: AL > CD this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderram Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 5 hours ago, EvH said: AL and WOF aren't exactly what I would call "amazing stuff". I disagree. Especially with regard to AL. It's a fantastic album. One of the better hard rock albums in a long time. 2 hours ago, BadApples87 said: AL > CD I would have said the same thing a couple of years ago. But, to be honest, CD has really grown on me in the past year or so. I was in the camp of being underwhelmed by the album when it came out. Like most, I had listened to demos well before it's release and had an idea what to expect upon full release, but was still underwhelmed. But, admittedly, I'm typically slow to adopt new albums and songs. It takes a while to win me over beyond a song or two. When CD came out, I really only liked the title track, Street of Dreams, TIL, and Better. Over time, I've grown to enjoy Catcher in the Rye, Prostitute, TWAT, Madagascar, Sorry and IRS. I was much quicker to adopt most of the songs from AL, but now there's not a lot of separation between the two for me. I love them both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnfnr2k Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 5 hours ago, bigpoop said: There is no way Slash wanted to play This I Love. That song is terrible. This I love was written during the UYI times, it was just piano back then but if he was going to play on any song that would be it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderram Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 6 hours ago, bigpoop said: There is no way Slash wanted to play This I Love. That song is terrible. To you. Not to everyone else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appetite4illusions Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Axl, you need to play Slither, please. I'll be waiting in Foxboro. You really will tear the roof off of that place if you break out that song, just once, this tour. But do it in Foxboro, if you'd please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalGunner Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Its this simple. Slash rejoined Guns N' Roses. CD is a GnR album. Clearly he was given some license to make the songs his own. Many fans always wondered how some of these songs would have sounded with Slash.. now we know. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsdaddy76 Posted July 17, 2016 Author Share Posted July 17, 2016 At the show right now. Chinese snooze fest!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmygod Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Nothing I love more than reading all these butt hurt fans complaining about Slash playing GNR songs! Get over it bros, Slash clearly accepts those songs as legitimate GNR songs, it's time y'all do too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post t-p-d-a Posted July 17, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2016 Not In This Lifefime tour contract: Slashs Duty: Playing Chinese Democracy stuff Axls Duty: rehearsels, hit the stage on time it kinda feels like :-D So the 3 hour meeting was success 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfAGun Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 (edited) I think Slash has picked the songs he wanted to work on and is probably into it because it is something new. I would like to hear more of TWAT and think that the TIL solo needs more structure and less noodling (he seems to do this when he is unsure of the melodic bends and phrases), but overall I believe this is a sign that all parties have matured to the point that they understand the value that their combined presence on stage holds for millions of fans all over the world. Good for them, it only took 23 years! Edited July 17, 2016 by SoundOfAGun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold top 78 Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 9 hours ago, DieselDaisy said: Anastasia is a (guitar) masterpiece!! Somewhat agree about its lyrics but then, with guitar like that, who cares? I've always seen Anastasia is another Locomotive. The riff on the verses are basically the same then there's the guitar outro Yeah the lyrics aren't the best but just having Axl singing on it would bring it up another level and probably change some peoples minds just like Slash with CD songs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold top 78 Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 I think Slash and Duff are mature enough to accept that CD is a guns n roses album ( I'm not a fan of the album ) and are happy to play some of the songs as already said Axl seems to have made compromises too. The one thing I've been wondering since the tour began is if TIL, Better and CD are the songs Axl wanted Slash to work on back in early 2000's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 (edited) Axl said they'd learned the stuff without him having to prompt them, didn't he? Also, I love Slash's contributions and variations concerning ChD songs. It's brilliant. Edited July 17, 2016 by jamillos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocArunas Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 13 hours ago, LADoll77 said: CD is an Axl Rose solo record with guest spots. has nothing to do with Slash and Duff. they shouldn't be Axl's bitches in this respect. play illusion tracks by GNR instead. or move to the city. Well, that's how you feel about it, but it has GNR written on the right hand side of the cd, so its a gnr album. By your logic if a member leaves from any band, the band continues to release music, and if the original member returns he shouldn't play the music created without him, because that would make him a bitch? Huh, what a joke, deal with it bud. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 55 minutes ago, DocArunas said: Well, that's how you feel about it, but it has GNR written on the right hand side of the cd, so its a gnr album. By your logic if a member leaves from any band, the band continues to release music, and if the original member returns he shouldn't play the music created without him, because that would make him a bitch? Huh, what a joke, deal with it bud. ...and 'Rollex'' is written on that watch you bought at a market from a dodgy geezer for a tenner. Doesn't make it bona fide Rollex! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocArunas Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 7 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: ...and 'Rollex'' is written on that watch you bought at a market from a dodgy geezer for a tenner. Doesn't make it bona fide Rollex! What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber after reading it. I award you no point, and may God have mercy on your soul. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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