Popular Post action Posted August 1, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2016 there are a few people out there that are expecting CD2 coming out sooner or later, featuring guitar work from Slash's replacements Bucket, Bumble, Finck, DJ and the other ones. however, from a pure marketing view, that is really unrealistic. this whole NITL tour is about Slash being back in the band. it's what generates the buzz. it's what selling the shows. Why would the record company take a huge risk with selling the sequel to CD, featuring members that have left? That weren't selling shows in the first place? That, I dare say, many people hate? How are they going to sell such an album to joe public? "Hey, Slash is back in the band, but you know what, the musicians you hated are still on the album. for, eh, ...artistical reasons. yeah." it will be: rhythm: Richard fortus. Lead: Slash. or it will not be. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caraibes Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 NO. it will be Fortus on Lead guitar too. He plays both, rythm AND lead. Some of you must understand that Richard Fortus is mostly a Lead Guitar Player. The guy can play everything. He wrote TONS of lead parts, riffs and solos afetr the CD erea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Słash Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 30 minutes ago, Caraibes said: NO. it will be Fortus on Lead guitar too. He plays both, rythm AND lead. Some of you must understand that Richard Fortus is mostly a Lead Guitar Player. The guy can play everything. He wrote TONS of lead parts, riffs and solos afetr the CD erea. So why din't he write anything during the CD era? he was there since 2002, Bumblefoot who joined in 2006 has more contributions to CD than Fortus. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RNRS Posted August 1, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2016 I don't believe in new releases, period. No acoustic album. No cover album. No live album. No EP consisting of 3 new tracks. No newly recorded Appetite. None of those crazy ideas you see popping up here every few days. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giuls Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 (edited) I agree, it would be a commercial suicide not to have Slash playing, come on, what would be selling the CD would be the curiosity of the general public about how they sound together on new songs after 20 plus years not creating together Edited August 1, 2016 by giuls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 If they were serious about the new material succeeding, they wouldn't call it CD 2. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 The way Axl says it he's shown Slash and Duff what we consider to be CD2 and they liked it, he said if they want to write something to that then great. I think he said something about Slash wanting to write and so its kinda a mixture of all their work hopefully coming into one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lies They Tell Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Yes, if Slash and Duff are permanently back in GNR, it would make no sense to release an album without them. CD2 with new guitar parts by Slash and Duff and a couple of brand new songs by them. Perhaps even some unreleased songs that they wrote in the nineties. That's the album I believe in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Słash Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 17 minutes ago, Lies They Tell said: Yes, if Slash and Duff are permanently back in GNR, it would make no sense to release an album without them. CD2 with new guitar parts by Slash and Duff and a couple of brand new songs by them. Perhaps even some unreleased songs that they wrote in the nineties. That's the album I believe in. Same here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GonzoThesaurus Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Slash has played Axl's songs, right? (better, sorry, etc.) Well what if Axl started singing Slash's songs? Imagine "You're A Lie" or "Doctor Allibi" with Axl vocals.. shit would be pretty fucking great 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxpax Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 1 hour ago, RNRS said: I don't believe in new releases, period. No acoustic album. No cover album. No live album. No EP consisting of 3 new tracks. No newly recorded Appetite. None of those crazy ideas you see popping up here every few days. the chemistry on stage + the lack of media communication + Axl being surprised about new cd questions confirms your prediction. Don't forget the rumor that Axl might retire with GnR after this world tour. I think this is the most realistic scenario. I just hope for new bluray stuff from the old era... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6lake sa66ath Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 After beginning to read the Chinese Whispers page and all the shit that went down in the mids 90s about starting up the would-be new Guns record, I can only hope and pray that they're all gonna be on the same page, whatever it is that they decide to release. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 37 minutes ago, GonzoThesaurus said: Slash has played Axl's songs, right? (better, sorry, etc.) Well what if Axl started singing Slash's songs? Imagine "You're A Lie" or "Doctor Allibi" with Axl vocals.. shit would be pretty fucking great I guess the argument is that Better, Sorry etc. are Guns N Roses songs, Slash's songs aren't... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrichmond Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 1 hour ago, GonzoThesaurus said: Slash has played Axl's songs, right? (better, sorry, etc.) Well what if Axl started singing Slash's songs? Imagine "You're A Lie" or "Doctor Allibi" with Axl vocals.. shit would be pretty fucking great I don't think Axl should sing Slash's songs, Myles sings them perfectly and i don't think they would suit Axl's voice....IMO 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 4 hours ago, action said: there are a few people out there that are expecting CD2 coming out sooner or later, featuring guitar work from Slash's replacements Bucket, Bumble, Finck, DJ and the other ones. however, from a pure marketing view, that is really unrealistic. this whole NITL tour is about Slash being back in the band. it's what generates the buzz. it's what selling the shows. Why would the record company take a huge risk with selling the sequel to CD, featuring members that have left? That weren't selling shows in the first place? That, I dare say, many people hate? How are they going to sell such an album to joe public? "Hey, Slash is back in the band, but you know what, the musicians you hated are still on the album. for, eh, ...artistical reasons. yeah." it will be: rhythm: Richard fortus. Lead: Slash. or it will not be. It would be like Kiss's Carnival of Souls appearing amidst the Kiss Reunion, only released because of bootlegging and basically deliberately buried. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Jay Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 I can't imagine There Was A Time or Better without Finck or Buckethead. They were just amazing. Slash is great but I like all the leads on ChDm. Let him soloing on his own stuff, and maybe the tracks with fretless guitars like Atlas Shrugged. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Drive Lonelinessl Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 I believe in CD2 as the way it is. I expect Axl to put it out as such Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, Oldest Goat said: The chemistry is good, they're old, what do you want? There is no proof that the reasons for a lack of media communication has anything to do with not wanting to make new music? In fact, like others have said Axl has said outright several times he has material, has even showed it to the boys and hopes they work on it and the intentions of the band are to keep going as long as possible. These are all facts, not opinion or speculation. Sooo I really don't understand why you don't believe even more... P.S. Of course it won't be called Chinese Democracy II Stay Of Execution starts now! You got the sense that he hated the 'new material questions' though. It was the elephant in the room. What was that thing he said, ''we are going to look seriously into what we are doing in this regard'' or some other Axlspeak haha. Edited August 1, 2016 by DieselDaisy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F*ck Fear Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 IF new music happens, I see it being like the band itself, a hybrid. A mix of Chinese era songs being re- recorded and re- written with brand new songs written by Axl, Slash and Duff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 2 minutes ago, F*ck Fear said: IF new music happens, I see it being like the band itself, a hybrid. A mix of Chinese era songs being re- recorded and re- written with brand new songs written by Axl, Slash and Duff. It will sound equally as messy and convoluted as Chinese Democracy providing they do a completely new recording. Those master tapes are tainted with too many overdubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood Gunner Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 i dont think there is a CD2 nor will there ever be... there might be some stuff axl had saved up for the next album but thats all it is... asha and bumble maybe wrote some riffs but those more than likely ended up as solo spots at live gigs or will be on their future solo albums personally would love to see izzy back in the writting mix but would also be curious to see what axl could write with just slash and duff... album flops = wheres izzy? huge success = whos that guy? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane M. Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 6 hours ago, maxpax said: the chemistry on stage + the lack of media communication + Axl being surprised about new cd questions confirms your prediction. Don't forget the rumor that Axl might retire with GnR after this world tour. I think this is the most realistic scenario. I just hope for new bluray stuff from the old era... I don't see Axl retiring ever, I don't think he would know how to and what the hell to do besides touring. IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonGuns Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 14 hours ago, Wagszilla said: I want CD II released unadulterated with Buckethead and Robin Finck on guitar. Then record and release new music with the current band. My thoughts precisely. Even if this means keeping "CD2" in the archives and releasing as some kind of box set in the future. This also ensures more new music in the long run, i.e. two albums at least, rather than CD2 being reworked into one. Often these "obscurities" are the most interesting parts of a band, and I for one would love to hear more Axl and Bucket together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RONIN Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 (edited) Chinese Democracy should never have had b-listers like finck, Fortus, frank and bumblefoot -- shows you how far this band had fallen that Axl enlisted them. No way could these journeymen session players follow Slash, Izzy and Duff The King Of Beers McKagan. The only "nu" people who were worthy enough to be on a guns n roses album were Josh Freese, Brain, and Colonel Sanders friend, Mr. Buckethead. When those guys walked, Axl's solo project was toast. Enter Bumblefoot who shreds tastelessly over the Catcher in the Rye outro. What a clusterfuck of an album Chinese Democracy was. Unless Axl can piece together CD 2 with Freese, Brain and Bucket -- dump it and let the originals take over. Damn shame about Mr. Buckethead -- the guy was a genius. Any man who can compose the most sublime guitar melodies in a chicken coop that smells of dog shit while watching super hardcore porn is no longer a man - he is a legend. Slash is my hero but Buckethead is Godly. Edited August 2, 2016 by RONIN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 To me they should just get into a room and write 10-12 new kickass songs. Why not? With Slash and Duff's work ethic they can get the band to record the album tracks in no time, Axl can lay down some vocal tracks that have his 2016 awesome voice in it, and then release than motherfucker I really, really do not want another album with vocal tracks from 2002 on them regardless of what happens 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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