Caught_in_a_Coma Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 He's probably the most loved (and maybe most respected) member of GN'R 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original GNR Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 (edited) I don't think Izzy is underrated. Certainly not by fans like us. To the wider public he may be, but that's probably more to do with the fact that they don't know him. Slash and Axl were always the public face of the band. Any knowledgeable GnR fan knows how important Izzy was to their songwriting and the overall feel of the band. Edited August 7, 2016 by Original GNR 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveysham Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Think Izzy gets his dues. No one is denying his value as a song writer to the group. As for why he's not touring? Probably because he doesn't want to. Simple as. it's not a sleight against him by Axl, Slash & Duff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good, Fuck'n, Night. Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 10 hours ago, DieselDaisy said: I completely agree. Izzy is the heart and soul. Slash is the limbs. Adler is the toes. Duff is the hands and Axl is the anus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RONIN Posted August 8, 2016 Author Share Posted August 8, 2016 8 hours ago, Original GNR said: I don't think Izzy is underrated. Certainly not by fans like us. To the wider public he may be, but that's probably more to do with the fact that they don't know him. Slash and Axl were always the public face of the band. Any knowledgeable GnR fan knows how important Izzy was to their songwriting and the overall feel of the band. He has a lot of detractors as you'll see in this thread. My original post supporting Izzy has only a few more likes than a post saying that he's overrated and how "it's disgusting that fans think he's a genius". Nu fans 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bigpoop Posted August 8, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2016 Remember it wasn't that long ago that Slash was trashed all the time on these boards. There are a lot of people that just go with Axl and the party line. Izzy isn't in , so he must be out. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautifulanddamned Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Izzy was pretty quick in pointing out that the lyrics to his latest song weren't a dig at the band- that's a change from his older tweets. And he's been silent for over a month. It might bode well for the California shows. After all if there is one sign you are involved with the band right now it's probably silence. I don't care if he's overrated or underrated or ..rated. I just hope he shows up a few times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggers Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 (edited) Like A Dog is a fucking GREAT album. If you are so-so about Izzy's stuff you've heard I recommend you check it out, a lot more rocking than most of his albums. I believe most of the songs are what he wrote for Velvet Revolver but weren't used, there are actually couple of riffs used on both the Izzy album and the first VR. Edited August 8, 2016 by eggers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 He was a the quietest members of GnR in amongst a band of big people with a lot of surrounding iconic folks, his contributions are most co-song-writing stuff and rhythm work which doesn't always lend itself to get plaudits and because, well, he never struck me as someone who particularly wanted to be rated. People that are rated work hard at it, Izzy didn't seem to give a fuck...and still doesn't, bless him. He was also out of GnR pretty quickly, what was it, four years? And he was probably the most conventionally dressed out of the lot of em too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john lennon Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Izzy tho? (yeah i'm hilarious thank you) I mean we all love him on here n every guns fan on the planet goes on here, right? Izzy's the coolest. I think. His shit's great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archtop Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 (edited) sorry trying to post a gif but can't get it to work, can't delete post either. Edited August 8, 2016 by Archtop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumble's Bridge Pickup Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 On 8/6/2016 at 1:45 AM, iftheworld said: Izzy is overrated in my opinion. I agree. I think there's an ever prevalent circlejerk about him. It's true that his stuff on AFD is fantastic, but he was on that one album only and Slash contributed more. I can acknowledge that Izzy is a great musician but he's not in my Top 50 guitarists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Just now, Bumble's Bridge Pickup said: I agree. I think there's an ever prevalent circlejerk about him. It's true that his stuff on AFD is fantastic, but he was on that one album only and Slash contributed more. I can acknowledge that Izzy is a great musician but he's not in my Top 50 guitarists Ehh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTV88 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Lol at "that one album". I guess you never heard of Patience, 14 Years, DTJ, Don't Cry, Dust N Bones, Bad Obsession, Pretty Tied Up, You Could Be Mine, etc. And those are just off the top of my head. Seriously, enough with the nuFans that don't know a thing about the REAL GnR! I mean, my god! Who in the hell is on a GnR board, and has no idea the vast influence Izzy had on the GnR sound?!?! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumble's Bridge Pickup Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 If you count Lies as a whole album, sure. Izzy might be on UYI too but I was under the impression that Slash did the vast majority of guitars there 9 minutes ago, DTV88 said: Lol at "that one album". I guess you never heard of Patience, 14 Years, DTJ, Don't Cry, Dust N Bones, Bad Obsession, Pretty Tied Up, You Could Be Mine, etc. And those are just off the top of my head. Seriously, enough with the nuFans that don't know a thing about the REAL GnR! I mean, my god! Who in the hell is on a GnR board, and has no idea the vast influence Izzy had on the GnR sound?!?! Don't just throw me in some "nuFan" box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good, Fuck'n, Night. Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 1 hour ago, Bumble's Bridge Pickup said: If you count Lies as a whole album, sure. Izzy might be on UYI too but I was under the impression that Slash did the vast majority of guitars there Don't just throw me in some "nuFan" box. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 4 hours ago, Bumble's Bridge Pickup said: If you count Lies as a whole album, sure. Izzy might be on UYI too but I was under the impression that Slash did the vast majority of guitars there Don't just throw me in some "nuFan" box. You need to do some homework Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-W.A.R- Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Izzy is only underrated to maybe causal fans who know 4 or 5 songs and thats due to them not really knowing any better but hes certainly not among true fans. if their was a underrated member of "Guns N' Roses" its probably Matt Sorum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreakDown2014 Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 This was posted on the board, but I think Alan Niven sums up perfectly here why Izzy was such an important part of GN'R: http://teamrock.com/feature/2014-06-04/opinion-why-izzy-stradlin-was-the-heart-of-guns-n-roses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tadsy Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Gilby Clarke did a fine job replacing on the UYI tour.. and i didnt miss him at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverburst80 Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 (edited) On 07/08/2016 at 6:42 AM, steveysham said: Think Izzy gets his dues. No one is denying his value as a song writer to the group. As for why he's not touring? Probably because he doesn't want to. Simple as. it's not a sleight against him by Axl, Slash & Duff. I think so, he doesn't even tour his own stuff. Pretty much every reason he left the band does not exist at this point in time..the addictions, Axl's tardiness and megalomania so in that regard things are cool but GNR is a massive business now and i think that could possibly be a little overwhelming. I think the offers there for him to jump on stage for a few songs if he wants. Edited August 9, 2016 by Silverburst80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-W.A.R- Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 (edited) im not even sure Izzy himself would perfer his solo work to UYI's. Izzy's solo stuff, from the stuff ive heard, is sorta half-hearted. thats not to say theres nothing good (i actually enjoy the 117 album) but it sounds like a good musician that was just keeping himself busy. nothing special or standout-ish. Edited August 9, 2016 by -W.A.R- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 (edited) 8 minutes ago, -W.A.R- said: im not even sure Izzy himself would perfer his solo work to UYI's. Izzy solo stuff, from the stuff ive heard, is sorta half-hearted. thats not to say theres nothing good (i actually enjoy the 117 album) but it sounds like a good musician that was just keeping himself busy. Stradlin didn't like many aspects of the Illusion album, e.g. the length of the material, 'My World' and the omission of Adler, so I doubt this is true. Edited August 9, 2016 by DieselDaisy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DieselDaisy Posted August 9, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted August 9, 2016 Pre-Reunion loony consensus: ''Slash is a cancer who is limited technically compared to the new band and his solo albums 'suck' - Axl is god''. Post-Reunion loony consensus: ''Izzy was insignificant in Guns. He couldn't play guitar. His solo albums 'suck' and he is too lazy to join the reunion - Richard Fortus is god''. Sheep. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-W.A.R- Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: Stradlin didn't like many aspects of the Illusion album, so I doubt this is true. yeah he was put off by the grandiose-ness of the album due to Axl having Freddie Mercury visions, but theres still some real quality there. theres noway in my mind you can compare them and objectivity say Izzy stuff is better, even if you ARE Izzy. the ppl saying Izzy was "insignificant" to Guns are flat out wrong but its not inconceivable to me that ppl aren't high on his solo stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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