-Jaro- Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 2 hours ago, BorderlineCrazy said: Haha I think he can, he just needs to get Shaquille O'Neal or Shaq's girlfriend/wife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asia Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Quote As I said prior, Stradlin refused to travel on the Illusion plane, however, if Izzy performed a volte-face, my opinion would include him: private planes are collosal ego driven 'look at me, I'm better than ordinary people' rock star rubbish which was the height of ridiculousness in 1975, and is certainly still the height of ridiculousness in 2016. I see a lot of sense in band planes - it makes them independent on the commercial plane schedule, gives the band members a place to actually take some sleep if the schedule is really tight, also since they have to carry so much stuff and equipment, I'm not sure if it is that much more expensive. Also much comfort - no fans, no journalists, no photos and shit during every flight. However the need to use your private jet when you have a band plane - well, here I agree with you 100%. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumikki Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 2 hours ago, MillionsOfSpiders said: I wonder why Axl doesn't have a bodyguard now? Not seen him with one for a while. He just walks around with fernando lol, he'd be brown bread in no time if that happened again. He does have one. Big, bald and mean looking guy. Always was around during the ACDC tour and I thought he was kind of rude. He's also in some pictures from the NITL tour, so I figure he usually is around Axl. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigpoop Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 This guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 41 minutes ago, bigpoop said: This guy. Asiatic version of Beta and Fernando behind him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgnr Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 1 hour ago, bigpoop said: This guy. Yeah saw him heading to backstage at the end of AC/DC gig in Lisbon with Fernando, the personal trainer and a bunch of ladies. He was with the exact same sweater and, I swear, the exact same face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emybdc Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 (edited) 6 hours ago, DieselDaisy said: It sort of shows you cannot handle yourself and are a coward. Also a bit poncy - that you believe you're Elvis or somebody. You're clueless about the status of this band. They're one of the very few bands left that can fill stadium - world wide that is. They cause commotion. Just because you're not interested in them anymore, doesnt mean other people aren't. I do get your skepticism towards them, but saying they wouldnt need personal security, specially in SA, makes zero sense. 5 hours ago, DieselDaisy said: At the end of the day, Chuck Berry does not have a bodyguard. The rest of the conversation is hot air. He doesn't need to. His audience is very different from GnR's. He doesn't have the popularity Guns does (I think he should but that's another story, I'm not talking about merit, it's just how it is). Edited October 26, 2016 by emybdc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xBrownstonex Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 5 hours ago, Italian girl said: The art of complaining For everything without a reason That guy is a total idiot, seriously. I can't take him seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 3 hours ago, emybdc said: You're clueless about the status of this band. They're one of the very few bands left that can fill stadium - world wide that is. They cause commotion. Just because you're not interested in them anymore, doesnt mean other people aren't. I do get your skepticism towards them, but saying they wouldnt need personal security, specially in SA, makes zero sense. He doesn't need to. His audience is very different from GnR's. He doesn't have the popularity Guns does (I think he should but that's another story, I'm not talking about merit, it's just how it is). Absolute rubbish. Chuck Berry is the very pinnacle in terms of popularity - up there with Elvis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheapJon Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 I guess John Lennon made the right choice not having a body guard. And Dimebag for that matter. Served them pussies right! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 3 minutes ago, CheapJon said: I guess John Lennon made the right choice not having a body guard. And Dimebag for that matter. Served them pussies right! John wouldn't have even had a bodyguard had he known what would've happened. He was too self-deprecating to possess a bodyguard, who wouldn't have been able to do anything anyway. The only person in Guns who possessed a sense of the ridiculousness of the whole thing is Izzy. Dimebag? Last I knew he died on stage at a show which presumably had an entire line of security! I guess I'm in the minority here in finding private planes and bodyguards absurd and I'm certainly fine with that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BorderlineCrazy Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Well, Chuck Berry came to Argentina in 2013 and he gave a show which was considered sad and bizarre by pretty much all the concert goers. To me, that's way worse than having fn' bodyguards or your own play. Chuck Berry is a legend and I'm not trying to criticize him or anything. Apparently his family is using him to make money when he's not really able anymore but my point is it doesn't make sense to put the focus so much on irrelevant things. At the end of the day, people who went to that Chuck Berry show (and probably all the others on that tour) left the place pretty upset. On the other hand, people who attended the GNR shows on the US tour were apparently blown away by the band. The rest of the conversation is hot air Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 4 minutes ago, BorderlineCrazy said: Well, Chuck Berry came to Argentina in 2013 and he gave a show which was considered sad and bizarre by pretty much all the concert goers. To me, that's way worse than having fn' bodyguards or your own play. Chuck Berry is a legend and I'm not trying to criticize him or anything. Apparently his family is using him to make money when he's not really able anymore but my point is it doesn't make sense to put the focus so much on irrelevant things. At the end of the day, people who went to that Chuck Berry show (and probably all the others on that tour) left the place pretty upset. On the other hand, people who attended the GNR shows on the US tour were apparently blown away by the band. The rest of the conversation is hot air Probably because South Americans are still into mullet rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheapJon Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 6 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: John wouldn't have even had a bodyguard had he known what would've happened. He was too self-deprecating to possess a bodyguard, who wouldn't have been able to do anything anyway. The only person in Guns who possessed a sense of the ridiculousness of the whole thing is Izzy. Dimebag? Last I knew he died on stage at a show which presumably had an entire line of security! I guess I'm in the minority here in finding private planes and bodyguards absurd and I'm certainly fine with that. The thing is, there are maniacs in the world. Some of those maniacs are drawn to celebrities for different reasons. I guess I'm in the minority who don't give a shit about having private planes or not. However, I do want the musicians I admire to be as safe as possible from said maniacs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BorderlineCrazy Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 1 minute ago, DieselDaisy said: Probably because South Americans are still into mullet rock. Well, I can't speak for everybody but I talked to people who was really excited because they were getting to see a living legend like Chuck Berry and then had to leave midway through the show 'cause it was sad to see Chuck that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, BorderlineCrazy said: Well, I can't speak for everybody but I talked to people who was really excited because they were getting to see a living legend like Chuck Berry and then had to leave midway through the show 'cause it was sad to see Chuck that way. Well he is ninety years old! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BorderlineCrazy Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 1 minute ago, DieselDaisy said: Well he is ninety years old! That's his excuse? What a pussy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 1 minute ago, BorderlineCrazy said: That's his excuse? What a pussy! He is releasing an album soon - something GN'R don't do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BorderlineCrazy Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 1 minute ago, DieselDaisy said: He is releasing an album soon - something GN'R don't do. That's awesome. Dude's eternal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emybdc Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 44 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: Probably because South Americans are still into mullet rock. 32 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: He is releasing an album soon - something GN'R don't do. I get such a kick out of you. I just wish someday I'll share 1/10 of your wisdom and knowlegde of what's good and right in this world. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikka Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 12 hours ago, DieselDaisy said: As I said prior, Stradlin refused to travel on the Illusion plane, however, if Izzy performed a volte-face, my opinion would include him: private planes are collosal ego driven 'look at me, I'm better than ordinary people' rock star rubbish which was the height of ridiculousness in 1975, and is certainly still the height of ridiculousness in 2016. All awful but I freely confess to being in the minority when it pertains to the subject of Led Zeppelin. I tend to agree that band planes are excessive. If your read Duff's book he explains that those luxuries they had on UYI tour do not happen any longer - everybody is more tight with money and the attituted towards "rock'n'roll decadence" has changed in general. Well, it seems he changed his mind, lol. Anyway, gnr has made us used to such "ego driven rubbish" so I would be pretty neutral to it... !!!!BUT!!!! There's this one, small "but": This plane costed millions probably. They will probably sell it for a bit less once the tour ends (provided it has been actually bought not rented - which might make sense because renting it for a year or so could be more expensive). Still, they have earned a fortune playing US and decided to buy a plane. Whichever way they split the cost, they were not so willing to spend a fraction of that sum to pay Izzy a more reasonable amount that could convince him to play. They chose to offer him a ridiculous fraction of what they earn each show and instead spent their money on a f..ing plane Think about it next time you accuse Izzy of being all about money and greedy... It only proves that this tour is a huge cash grab meant to boost their egos an fool them for one more year that they are true "rockstars". The quality of the music, the performance - it's not really that important. Pathetic, really. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archtop Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 13 hours ago, DieselDaisy said: Well nobody would give a shit if Axl walked down a British high street. Oasis however - a Gallagher - would probably raise a few heads. I've just had the worst day, but I spat out my tea laughing when I read this. thank you . From one Brit to another, I would give a shit if Axl came strolling down my local high street, either Gallagher brother not so much. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicDwolfwood Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 I cant believe im seeing some of you moan about private jets and bodyguards. fucking hell, never happy I see. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian girl Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 They did't buy a plane! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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