Popular Post RONIN Posted August 16, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2016 1 minute ago, killuridols said: Is Guns N' Roses Izzy's band in the present? In 2016? My jaw would drop if I were to find a document that says anything remotely close to that. I highly doubt Izzy ever wanted to go back to this band. He left and never gave signs of wanting back. As long as they primarily keep playing AFD and UYI at every show (which Axl has done since 2001), then yes, it's still Izzy's band. You don't seem to understand that this band is a legacy act that is still cashing in on albums they wrote 30 yrs ago. Why shouldn't Izzy share in that when he wrote a huge chunk of those songs? Until this band releases new music, they haven't moved on from the past. Izzy has mentioned plenty of times that if everyone got back together again, he'd be interested in playing with them. This was confirmed by Marc Canter. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RONIN Posted August 16, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2016 4 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: Slash and Duff quit also. Axl quit the old partnership as well. He shouldn't be allowed to call the shots I suppose. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane M. Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, RONIN said: As long as they primarily keep playing AFD and UYI at every show (which Axl has done since 2001), then yes, it's still Izzy's band. You don't seem to understand that this band is a legacy act that is still cashing in on albums they wrote 30 yrs ago. Why shouldn't Izzy share in that when he wrote a huge chunk of those songs? Until this band releases new music, they haven't moved on from the past. Izzy has mentioned plenty of times that if everyone got back together again, he'd be interested in playing with them. This was confirmed by Marc Canter. AMEN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: Slash and Duff quit also. Apparently it was Duff the driving force behind the "reunion" and someone whose name I don't remember right now said Duff told him it was his goal to put Axl and Slash in a room together. How about the whole purpose of this was just to bring back Axl and Slash together and not once the thought of a "reunion" of the AFD 5? Just now, RONIN said: As long as they primarily keep playing AFD and UYI at every show (which Axl has done since 2001), then yes, it's still Izzy's band. You don't seem to understand that this band is a legacy act that is still cashing in on albums they wrote 30 yrs ago. Why shouldn't Izzy share in that when he wrote a huge chunk of those songs? Until this band releases new music, they haven't moved on from the past. Izzy has mentioned plenty of times that if everyone got back together again, he'd be interested in playing with them. This was confirmed by Marc Canter. I don't agree with this being Izzy's band. It is Axl's band, as far as I know, not even Slash or Duff.... but maybe that changed now and we don't know yet. There is an album called "Chinese Democracy" released in 2008 under the Guns N' Roses brand and several songs from said album have been consistently played in Guns N' Roses shows probably since 2006 and on. So I guess there is material not written by Izzy, Slash, Duff and Adler that is being played in the shows. I'm not saying they constitute 90% of the setlist but it's not like there is only AFD and UYI. What is strange is that, according to you, Izzy cares about the "band" cashing in on albums they wrote 30 years ago JUST NOW. Why didn't he care about the tours from 2006, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014? Actually, I think he made a couple guests appearances during those years and doesn't look like he was unhappy about it... I have not heard or read about Izzy wanting permanently back in this band. And if he wanted that, doesn't look like he made a huge effort to have his way back in 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 1 minute ago, killuridols said: How about the whole purpose of this was just to bring back Axl and Slash together and not once the thought of a "reunion" of the AFD 5? Well that would be a sad missed opportunity considering the ADF 5 were by far the greatest incarnation of Guns, and they are all alive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: Well that would be a sad missed opportunity considering the ADF 5 were by far the greatest incarnation of Guns, and they are all alive. I don't know about that. They were great in 1987. If all of them really want to go back to that, they will. If not, the fans should stop trying to force these guys into doing things they don't want to do. I'm not sure the mere fact of being alive is enough to bring people together and act like it was 1987 all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Just now, killuridols said: I don't know about that. They were great in 1987. If all of them really want to go back to that, they will. If not, the fans should stop trying to force these guys into doing things they don't want to do. I'm not sure the mere fact of being alive is enough to bring people together and act like it was 1987 all over again. They are already ''acting like it is 1987''! Nearly 33% of the setlist is Appetite! The group which, by a large margin, performed those songs best is the 1980's group. Adler's appearance, short as it was, raised the barometer on those two particular songs. I'd almost agree if they (the hybrid) had written new songs and were performing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadApples87 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) Hey it's great that Axl, Slash, Duff are doing their thing. It is just like the Illusion tour with Gilby, Matt, and Zig Zag - these additional musicians replaced those guys. Would we love to see original 5? Hell yes! But I don't think the amount of egos and input that would be required is possible. Just my thought. Right now you have Axl and Slash with Duff as the mediator. Throw more peas in the pot, and it might not work from the ego standpoint. Sad but true. Edited August 16, 2016 by BadApples87 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 5 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: They are already ''acting like it is 1987''! Nearly 33% of the setlist is Appetite! The group which, by a large margin, performed those songs best is the 1980's group. Adler's appearance, short as it was, raised the barometer on those two particular songs. I'd almost agree if they (the hybrid) had written new songs and were performing them. Maybe they all reunite in 2017 to celebrate the 30th anniversary of AFD. Play a couple shows and make some people happy. I really don't see them all back together again, writting new stuff and releasing it. Unconsistent guys like Adler and strange Izzy make this impossible. Things don't seem to have changed that much in that aspect since 1987. But who knows? My biggest hope is to hear new music and at this point, I really don't care who writes it or plays it, as long as it is Axl's voice and not Myles Kennedy or someone like that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 I expected something different when I read thread title "...I identify a lot with...." LOL. *calm down PCers- it's a joke. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacu44 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 2 hours ago, RONIN said: As long as they primarily keep playing AFD and UYI at every show (which Axl has done since 2001), then yes, it's still Izzy's band. You don't seem to understand that this band is a legacy act that is still cashing in on albums they wrote 30 yrs ago. Why shouldn't Izzy share in that when he wrote a huge chunk of those songs? Until this band releases new music, they haven't moved on from the past. Izzy has mentioned plenty of times that if everyone got back together again, he'd be interested in playing with them. This was confirmed by Marc Canter. Axl wanted to bury AFD, looks like he will play a majority of those songs every night till he is buried... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 I'm a huge Fortus fan, I liked reading this. Hope Izzy comes around and guests a bit. If Izzy isn't in the band, Richard is the next best thing imo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynard Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Fortus is a competent guitarist. No wonder GNR decided to hire him too, after Axl finished his solo carreer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modano09 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 I'd like Izzy to be involved but I don't feel entitled to it or hold it against Fortus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerenityScorp Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 7 hours ago, Slash787 said: Then around 2 years ago he said he won't share the same stage with Slash, now when Axl is friends with Slash, so he is sharing the same stage with Slash? Fortus should grow some balls, at least Bumblefoot spoke his mind. Well He dont know Slash will back 2 years later, Even tho He quit like Ron, Tommy N' DJ, There no one who can/will fill His position. If You say Izzy, I dunno if Izzy want to back to GN'R again. Or maybe it will be hard to make Izzy back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 I think paul is closer in approach to izzy, but richard does have the right feel for izzy's rhythm parts. His you're crazy interpretation is a good example. But he is also a lead player and he does have a more fluid sound there but his playing has obvious blues and hard rock influence and he can make it sound dirty and mean but never choppy and sloppy like izzy which was part of the sound and magic of old guns. Fortus and slash make a killer team of their own. Still bluesy but more concise and rocks harder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 (edited) Just a couple of midwest kids making a living. Edited August 17, 2016 by dalsh327 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post action Posted August 17, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2016 he's as similar to izzy as an Izzy action figure it looks as izzy, it sounds as izzy, but all "it" can do is copy izzy. as far as songwriting potential, surely the most important characteristic of Izzy, Fortis comes short a few inches 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuriousStyles Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 18 hours ago, RONIN said: "Richard Fortus has only been in Guns N Roses for the last 14 years. "- Axl Rose 95% of the people clicking on this topic did so because Izzy was mentioned. Sorry Axl. Well, It's been 14 years of.....pain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get In the Ring Motherfker Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 49 minutes ago, FuriousStyles said: Well, It's been 14 years of.....pain So now Fortus is eligible to sing 14 years instead of Izzy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuriousStyles Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 1 minute ago, Get In the Ring Motherfker said: So now Fortus is eligible to sing 14 years instead of Izzy I look forward to buying and listening to Live Era II: 2016 Band Members: Axl Rose Richard Fortus Frank Ferrer #MelissaReed Additional Musicians: Slash Duff Steven Adler 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babooshka Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 5 hours ago, FuriousStyles said: Well, It's been 14 years of.....pain People should sing the chorus next time Axl brings it up. It's very apt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jekylhyde Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Fortus is fucking great! End of story. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood Zombie Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Can't wait to see people whine when Izzy does come back if he ever does. No one would be happy even if steven and izzy came back, someone would find something to bitch about. I for one like fortus. Seeing my favorite band live was amazing. They could play My world over and over and I'd still be smiling like a little school boy. Just saying that GNR will never please anyone they cant. Waaaaaaaas melissa sucks, ewww shes a girl, Waaaaaaaa no izzy Waaaaaaaa fortus sucks, Waaaaaaaa to many chinese songs, Waaaaaaaa axls voice Waaaaaaaa slash isn't playing Robins parts right. Waaaaaaaa Waaaaaaaa Waaaaaaaa 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RONIN Posted August 18, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2016 3 hours ago, Hollywood Zombie said: Can't wait to see people whine when Izzy does come back if he ever does. No one would be happy even if steven and izzy came back, someone would find something to bitch about. I for one like fortus. Seeing my favorite band live was amazing. They could play My world over and over and I'd still be smiling like a little school boy. Just saying that GNR will never please anyone they cant. Waaaaaaaas melissa sucks, ewww shes a girl, Waaaaaaaa no izzy Waaaaaaaa fortus sucks, Waaaaaaaa to many chinese songs, Waaaaaaaa axls voice Waaaaaaaa slash isn't playing Robins parts right. Waaaaaaaa Waaaaaaaa Waaaaaaaa So having a contrary opinion to "Axl is God" = whining? That seems fair. And be realistic -- nobody would whine if Izzy and Steven showed up. People have been begging for that since 1991. Well...maybe except the 5 or so "nu" fans scattered across the internet like the insane Pittman fan from FB that hated Duff and Slash. If you can listen to a 3 hr "My World" Gnr setlist and love it -- I have nothing but respect. You obviously have a way higher threshold for pain than me. To each their own, but it sounds to me like you're basically an Axl fan. That's cool - no judgment. I guess that explains your profile pic since raver chick is the newest unnecessary member that Axl has drafted into the band. And once she or Fortus leaves, they'll be promptly forgotten like Buckethead, Bumble, etc. That's the point -- these people are all expendable employees. They have zero connection to this band aside from being touring musicians that Axl has hired. Hence, the "whining". 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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