The Holographic Universe Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Maybe this was done for the DVD. U2 once did something similar for a DVD show. it really doesn't matter what the reason, though. Its just internet indignation. Real life doesn't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 1 hour ago, DieselDaisy said: I do not understand why people are defending this! I'm certainly not bothered about the policy sitting now on a computer in England, not having attended this tour and with no foreseeable plans to ever attend this tour, but I could certainly envision a scenario in which I could theoretically be bothered. Imagine the scenario: you have splurged your life savings on a ticket - and we all agree that these tickets have been rather at the high end? You've went through the whole complicated ticket procedure, involving as it does presales, refreshing endless webpages, etc. You then travel a great many miles, navigating the various logistics of travel - from a different country even; you queue up in advance to get an agreeable position, then just as you arrive at what you thought was your (thoroughly earned) position, a bunch of models are escorted by a lackey (I expect that is how it operates?) to a place in front of your position, clearly non-fans who have not paid a thre'penny bit for the privilege. They then proceed to enjoy the show in a way, only a bunch of late-teenage - early-twentysomething girls with no possible interest in Guns N' Roses could enjoy a Guns N' Roses show, i.e. looking bored, using their phones and getting drunk. (Probably they'll get free alcohol also, while you are paying extortionate amounts.) What would you do if you got a free front row VIP pass for Justin Bieber (insert act which you have extreme indifference about)? Probably similar! And how would those fans behind feel about you, looking at the back of your smug head? Similar. That is exactly what I will have to go through in about 2 months or so to see them just one fucking time and that's it. Months of suffering for 2 hours of music and probably never again or sometime in a far far future. I also believe I will die in the middle of the stadium or not ever make it back home. While these girls are given all the perks and priviledges. They don't give a damn about anything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 6 hours ago, emybdc said: Models always get free tickets to everything, or do you think all those super models at Coachella paid for tickets? I bet they were even paid to be there. It's just how it is. I don't see how this comes as a surprise at all. Let the fans buy first row and pit tickets. Invite the models for the after show party only. I think this is the issue being discussed. It is not fair that fans can't get first row tickets because those tickets are given to a bunch of models 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stella Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, Padme said: Let the fans buy first row and pit tickets. Invite the models for the after show party only. I think this is the issue being discussed. It is not fair that fans can't get first row tickets because those tickets are given to a bunch of models This - especially since it appears that in at least a few cases they have disrupted others' enjoyment of the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 So funny story...my girlfriends sister is a model here in Phoenix. As I was driving with my gf to the concert she texted us and said that she got backstage tickets to the GNR show from her modeling agency. She then said she was too lazy to go the the show (she sucks). She said the tix weren't transferrable so she literally threw them out. Fastfoward to me arriving at the concert where I go to scan my pit tickets (hard copy tix) only to find out they were fake and I got robbed. So moral of the story-fuck models who get free tickets and throw them out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stella Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, Bulldog said: So funny story...my girlfriends sister is a model here in Phoenix. As I was driving with my gf to the concert she texted us and said that she got backstage tickets to the GNR show from her modeling agency. She then said she was too lazy to go the the show (she sucks). She said the tix weren't transferrable so she literally threw them out. Fastfoward to me arriving at the concert where I go to scan my pit tickets (hard copy tix) only to find out they were fake and I got robbed. So moral of the story-fuck models who get free tickets and throw them out Holy crap that sucks. Did they accommodate you at all so you could get in? I've heard that Stubhub does what it can in those cases, if you have bought from there. I can't even with someone throwing away free backstage tickets...i Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintari Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 I noticed this in Nashville. Someone in GNR has these fake young girls show up and stand in the pit. They take their photos as if they're fans and use it for social media. I saw it with my own eyes and I've been ignoring saying something about it on here because I didn't wanna piss on anyones parade or be negative for the sake of being negative. But this is definitely true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kira Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 I don't know why people care about this...it's a tale as old as time. And I don't know why people keep comparing it to Motley Crue. The Crue uses strippers people, not models! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Cavalerra Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Well, you guys just jealous with it. Cmon man, it's their concert, their money, let them do whatever they want. They're Rock Band after all. Not some UN Charity foundation who will pick some homeless kid or pig looking blue collared dude on front row. I know it's isn't fair or something, but hey, even life isn't fair right from the starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 1 hour ago, Bulldog said: So funny story...my girlfriends sister is a model here in Phoenix. As I was driving with my gf to the concert she texted us and said that she got backstage tickets to the GNR show from her modeling agency. She then said she was too lazy to go the the show (she sucks). She said the tix weren't transferrable so she literally threw them out. Fastfoward to me arriving at the concert where I go to scan my pit tickets (hard copy tix) only to find out they were fake and I got robbed. So moral of the story-fuck models who get free tickets and throw them out wow sorry about that! I'd be so pissed off I'd do things i cannot tell In some ways I cannot be mad at what your gf's sister did. At least she was honest, doesn't like the band did not want to put herself through that hassle. I would probably done the same if given tickets to an artist I dont give a damn about. At least she didnt go there to fake it. 34 minutes ago, Magnus Cavalerra said: Well, you guys just jealous with it. Cmon man, it's their concert, their money, let them do whatever they want. They're Rock Band after all. Not some UN Charity foundation who will pick some homeless kid or pig looking blue collared dude on front row. I know it's isn't fair or something, but hey, even life isn't fair right from the starts. Accussing people of jealousy is usually like the most basic and stupid thing to say. Their concert? Not really. They are selling tickets to "their" show. They want people to attend. Audience is part of the show. If you dont want an audience then throw a private concert at someone's mansion and invite only the ones you want. Their money? Kinda. The invested in the production of a tour and they are looking for revenue and to recover the investment. That money comes from the pockets of the fans. Yeah, they dont need to act like a UN Charity Foundation; neither like a brothel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigpoop Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 7 hours ago, Amir said: I'm pretty sure that bored-looking woman is just a regular fan who's a little tired and bored during the extended rendition of KOHD (my guess from Axl holding out his mike for the crowd to sing into). Bit mean to slag her off, I'm a big fan and even I get a little tired during that bit in the set from time to time. Yeah models travel in packs and nobody else around her fits the profile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Cavalerra Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 5 minutes ago, killuridols said: Accussing people of jealousy is usually like the most basic and stupid thing to say. Their concert? Not really. They are selling tickets to "their" show. They want people to attend. Audience is part of the show. If you dont want an audience then throw a private concert at someone's mansion and invite only the ones you want. Their money? Kinda. The invested in the production of a tour and they are looking for revenue and to recover the investment. That money comes from the pockets of the fans. Yeah, they dont need to act like a UN Charity Foundation; neither like a brothel. Yes they want people to attend, but they also want to invite family, friends, or some random bitches to attend. So? The "Paid Audience" things is everywhere dude, if TV show can do it why not on concert? If you feel being robbed by the band or treated unfair just don't come to the concert. You already got some free shit from Periscope. The band semi reunited, almost always on time, didn't storm out when stupid things happen, played the song that the fans loved. They delivered Why bitching about some trivial bullshit like the band bring model to watch at the front row, party backstage, or sucked some dick? If the show gonna be DVDed fans will still buy it, the models will not damage the sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 There seems a prevalent trend here that you are not allowed to criticise one single aspect of the hybrid tour. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 1 hour ago, Oldest Goat said: Fuck that sucks mate. Also, I hate your gf's sister haha 1 hour ago, stella said: Holy crap that sucks. Did they accommodate you at all so you could get in? I've heard that Stubhub does what it can in those cases, if you have bought from there. I can't even with someone throwing away free backstage tickets...i 25 minutes ago, killuridols said: wow sorry about that! I'd be so pissed off I'd do things i cannot tell In some ways I cannot be mad at what your gf's sister did. At least she was honest, doesn't like the band did not want to put herself through that hassle. I would probably done the same if given tickets to an artist I dont give a damn about. At least she didnt go there to fake it. Accussing people of jealousy is usually like the most basic and stupid thing to say. Their concert? Not really. They are selling tickets to "their" show. They want people to attend. Audience is part of the show. If you dont want an audience then throw a private concert at someone's mansion and invite only the ones you want. Their money? Kinda. The invested in the production of a tour and they are looking for revenue and to recover the investment. That money comes from the pockets of the fans. Yeah, they dont need to act like a UN Charity Foundation; neither like a brothel. Well the story gets quite long and involved but the short version is I was an idiot and bought them from craigslist. They were through ticketmaster and they were hard copies (which are significantly more difficult the counterfeit). I pad $300 for a pair the night before the show, so it was a good deal but it wasn't anything crazy that made me doubt it. I met the guy who looked a bit sketchy and I asked to see his phone to make sure it wasn't a burner phone. He had an iPhone 6 so I thought it was fine. Anyway the tix were fake so I went to the window and no one at will call could determine if they were legit or not because they were well enough printed that the bar code actually worked but had an invalid code. They scanned them a sent them to corporate who then determined they were fake. They gave me the impression they could slide me some under the table as mine were so well printed but of course at the last second they didn't. SO they then called me to the side to file a police report, while I was doing so another guy came up to file a police report as well. Keep in mind there were 50,000 people outside waiting to get in. The other guy looks at me and describes the guy who he bought them from which was exactly the same guy I bought mine from. This guy paid $600 for a pair. So judging by the fact that two people bumped into each other at the same police officer at the same time and got taken by the same guy, Im sure he got quite a few people there outside of us. I then went back to the window and bought more tix. I'm finishing up Pharmacy School and living on student loans so it was definitely not in my "budget" to do so but I wasn't going to let some asshole steal my one chance to see GNR. Sort of put me into a bad mood for the show but it was all still worth it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanity_lost Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Err... how many people have gone to a show this tour and had their view blocked by models again? I can't remember seeing anyone who went complaining about it in their reviews. But now it is suddenly a huge problem? I do remember the comment about them snorting coke in the bathroom before, but that was the only one. What did these girls do to deserve free GNR tickets? Well they have jobs that put them in GNR's social circle. Yay for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holographic Universe Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 2 hours ago, Nintari said: I noticed this in Nashville. Someone in GNR has these fake young girls show up and stand in the pit. They take their photos as if they're fans and use it for social media. I saw it with my own eyes and I've been ignoring saying something about it on here because I didn't wanna piss on anyones parade or be negative for the sake of being negative. But this is definitely true. I noticed that trend occurring on the bands instagram account. I had no idea it was models, though. I honestly thought the band had young fine-ass girls as diehard fans in every city. And, it occurs with every city on instagram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigpoop Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 3 hours ago, Padme said: Let the fans buy first row and pit tickets. Invite the models for the after show party only. I think this is the issue being discussed. It is not fair that fans can't get first row tickets because those tickets are given to a bunch of models The whole thing is pretty cheesy and tacky but I can't buy the argument that it takes anything away from fans. All sorts of high rollers and fat cats get special treatment it's just that nobody notices them, and if those tickets didn't go to models they would have gone to some other VIP type. Those seats just aren't available to regular people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Magnus Cavalerra said: Yes they want people to attend, but they also want to invite family, friends, or some random bitches to attend. So? The "Paid Audience" things is everywhere dude, if TV show can do it why not on concert? If you feel being robbed by the band or treated unfair just don't come to the concert. You already got some free shit from Periscope. The band semi reunited, almost always on time, didn't storm out when stupid things happen, played the song that the fans loved. They delivered Why bitching about some trivial bullshit like the band bring model to watch at the front row, party backstage, or sucked some dick? If the show gonna be DVDed fans will still buy it, the models will not damage the sale. No one here complained about their family or friends. Why do you bring that up? To make a point you don't have. "Paid audience" is not necessary here. This is not a TV show and they don't need a fake audience when they have a bunch of real fans who can actually enjoy the band and their music. I don't feel robbed by the band because my spot was not taken. I haven't attended any of these shows, I'm waiting for them to arrive to my country. I already have a ticket and I didn't struggle to get it. I really doubt they will put models in my show though. We will be a wild crowd with not seats in the floor area and no room for that kind of people. However, this doesn't prevent me from empathizing with those who have their view blocked by these girls or any other disturbance they felt. Everybody is entitled to go to a show and complain about it if some things don't look good for them. If you don't like it then don't read this thread and stay out of the debate. You already got plenty of other threads about how good this tour is. Enjoy them, they are free Edited August 23, 2016 by killuridols Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl_Fetish Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 I had no idea that management was doing this... I thought that the gaggle of bored faced skinny assed girls who kept prancing in and out of the pit together (skipping and holding hands at one point... I shit you not...) were friends of, like, Duff's kids. LOL. The one's I saw looked about 16 and I figured that's how a 16 year old would get a backstage pass to a GnR show.... by being friends with the kids of the band members. But no- I recognized them in an IG post about the San Diego show. well, LOL at me... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hell House Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Irony is, both Slash and Axl paid dearly for marrying models. Let's hope they learned their lesson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Słash Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 6 hours ago, Bulldog said: So funny story...my girlfriends sister is a model here in Phoenix. As I was driving with my gf to the concert she texted us and said that she got backstage tickets to the GNR show from her modeling agency. She then said she was too lazy to go the the show (she sucks). She said the tix weren't transferrable so she literally threw them out. Fastfoward to me arriving at the concert where I go to scan my pit tickets (hard copy tix) only to find out they were fake and I got robbed. So moral of the story-fuck models who get free tickets and throw them out That is really awful man, If I was you, then I would be so pissed and would be crying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Hagar Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 You pretty much cant buy tickets from Craigslist or similar anymore. Someone can simply switch or upgrade their seats throuch Ticketmaster then ell the "old" tix that are null and void. I did it 2x for GNR shows recently, but I didnt sell the bad ones of course. Same goes for buying them in the parking lot, doesnt matter if the tix look real. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergs Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 i just hope we get a dvd out of this tour! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annablue Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 11 hours ago, Bulldog said: So funny story...my girlfriends sister is a model here in Phoenix. As I was driving with my gf to the concert she texted us and said that she got backstage tickets to the GNR show from her modeling agency. She then said she was too lazy to go the the show (she sucks). She said the tix weren't transferrable so she literally threw them out. Fastfoward to me arriving at the concert where I go to scan my pit tickets (hard copy tix) only to find out they were fake and I got robbed. So moral of the story-fuck models who get free tickets and throw them out that's horrible and I'm so sorry that happened to you. Fuck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocArunas Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Moral of the story buy from a legit outlet or be a model 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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