Popular Post Eddie Money Posted September 8, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2016 Duff, the well-spoken diplomat should have stepped in to answer the interviewer's question. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KURT19 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 4 minutes ago, Eddie Money said: If he is smart he will not respond and will save any explanation for his book. Now I'm just pissed. He won't ever respond. FUCK HIS BOOK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 yep, this is likely the worse and most pathetic, sad and disgusting move in axl, slash and duff careers this is like at least 18 times worse than all their other fiascos -- chinese democracy, mickey voice, miles kennedy, richard fortus, frank ferrer etc etc etc -- comboed together this is downright insulting and embarrassing 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gackt Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 1 minute ago, NicDwolfwood said: You're arguing minor bits and details. He was a band member by association only. He wasnt actively a GNR band member at the time since he was off doing his own thing..again, refuting your yes-man claims. and your claims that he sat around humoring Axl and his "Industrial Rock" project. History contradicts that, Duff staying on Axl's side for the direction of the band back in the day Either way, Izzy's value to a reunion tour is 2nd to last, meaning they were more than ready to move on with or without him on board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrio Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Axl is my fucking idol but i believe a half what he said on interview, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollyWoodRose84 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 All these years we thought the holdup was Axl hating Slash. Now we know the real truth. Izzy wanted more money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicDwolfwood Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Just now, Gackt said: History contradicts that, Duff staying on Axl's side for the direction of the band back in the day Either way, Izzy's value to a reunion tour is 2nd to last, meaning they were more than ready to move on with or without him on board Does it now? where's your proof of that? The latter is obvious. which is why its been going pretty damn good so far.. The question is will it be as good for a 2nd run, if they dont put out a new record. thats the 100 million dollar question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KURT19 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 2 minutes ago, The Holographic Universe said: Izzy matters to hardcore fans. Not to the 40k people showing up night after night. This is a fan forum debate. Nobody outside of here has a personal or emotional stake in it other than the band members. And I seriously doubt Slash and Duff want to compensate Izzy. That's a lame-ass tired and worn-out justification, sorry. The entire world knows about those FIVE GUYS. None of those FIVE GUYS are faceless. Slash and Duff and Axl should want to compensate Izzy and Steven. Doing so would benefit those three immensely in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickodez Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 (edited) Axl never will give an interview again in his life. Axl now: Edited September 8, 2016 by Rickodez 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Money Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 1 minute ago, The Holographic Universe said: Izzy matters to hardcore fans. Not to the 40k people showing up night after night. This is a fan forum debate. Nobody outside of here has a personal or emotional stake in it other than the band members. And I seriously doubt Slash and Duff want to compensate Izzy. To some extent, I agree with you, but... GNR are one of the rare bands where you knew all of the players. Most fans during that time couldn't tell you who the guitarist in White Lion was but they could name all 5 guys in GNR. Especially many of the people who can actually afford the high ticket prices - they were invested in this band at some point in their younger years and could probably tell you the name of every band member. It is being marketed as a reunion tour so many of these people are hoping to see Izzy. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 7 minutes ago, arrio said: The name of the song said it but such kind way What song, FP money? If that's your point then you're absolutely right, just don't forget to add to it the fact that of all the people in the world to play on drums for the song, izzy got Matt Sorum. Matt Sorum. Who knew those two were even speaking for years..?!?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torb Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 So...Axl's gonna sing "Money Talks" with AC/DC? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Money Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 1 minute ago, Billsfan said: What song, FP money? If that's your point then you're absolutely right, just don't forget to add to it the fact that of all the people in the world to play on drums for the song, izzy got Matt Sorum. Matt Sorum. Who knew those two were even speaking for years..?!?! Matt thought that he would be a part of it and is upset with Slash and Duff for not lobbying to get him in. 1 minute ago, Torb said: So...Axl's gonna sing "Money Talks" with AC/DC? I wish. I love that song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanity_lost Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 (edited) I don't know why people are bringing up Fortus in this? It has nothing to do with Fortus. If they have a difference of opinion on how much he is contributing vs how much he is compensated then they will still have that difference of opinion whether Fortus is there or not. I mean, this is one of the reasons he left GNR in the first place! Edited September 8, 2016 by sanity_lost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 15 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said: I have zero issue with the lineup or with Fortus. I just think its hilarious how people have to jump to the Izzy doesnt matter/buisness decision thing because they dont want to criticize gnr I agree with everything you've said, for me this Is a double edge sword.. On one hand, I am with every cool with fortus and I get GNR essentially using this as a continuation. On the other hand, if izzy wanted back in so bad and they wanted to market this as a reunion, then they should have dealt him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modano09 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 5 minutes ago, KURT19 said: That's a lame-ass tired and worn-out justification, sorry. The entire world knows about those FIVE GUYS. None of those FIVE GUYS are faceless. Slash and Duff and Axl should want to compensate Izzy and Steven. Doing so would benefit those three immensely in the long run. But they are compensated. They receive royalties for the work they did in the past. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gackt Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 1 minute ago, NicDwolfwood said: Does it now? where's your proof of that? The latter is obvious. which is why its been going pretty damn good so far.. The question is will it be as good for a 2nd run, if they dont put out a new record. thats the 100 million dollar question. Neurotic Outsiders being a catalyst for the band staying together for as long as it had it's worth spending time diving into the history of the band to see who was invested in what decisions to see why the band was so fractured If Izzy wouldn't take what he was offered for a tour, a studio recording payout would be out of the question; Adler gives the impression he'd work for free to be with the band again, but Izzy's future with the band seems doubtful at best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 2 minutes ago, Eddie Money said: Matt thought that he would be a part of it and is upset with Slash and Duff for not lobbying to get him in. I wish. I love that song. Oh I know Eddie.. I remember when the Vegas shows started and Matt was asked if he would perescope the shows and he said he was watching Netflix reruns. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Wow...so the cameos from Steven are really the closest thing we will ever get to a full afd5 reunion. oh well. I do like the current line up a lot tho and look forward to seeing what they do with further touring and a possible new album. i admire Izzy a lot and respect him greatly for writing the bulk of GNR's back catalog, but what I've wanted the most was to see Axl and slash working together again and we finally have that now. So I have no reason to complain about this aspect of the whole ordeal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gackt Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 12 minutes ago, Eddie Money said: Duff, the well-spoken diplomat should have stepped in to answer the interviewer's question. I'm honestly surprised Duff gave little input on the matter, unless some of his responses were edited out afterward There's likely a lot more to the situation that hasn't been made public, money could be the tip of the iceberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSeeker Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 There was really no way to do this proper with the way Izzy and Steven exited the band originally Unless they throw a bunch of money at Izzy for an Appetite 30th anniversary show next year, I don't think we'll ever see Axl/Slash/Duff/Izzy/Steven all perform on the same stage again, and that's really dissapointing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Just now, TheSeeker said: There was really no way to do this proper with the way Izzy and Steven exited the band originally Unless they throw a bunch of money at Izzy for an Appetite 30th anniversary show next year, I don't think we'll ever see Axl/Slash/Duff/Izzy/Steven all perform on the same stage again, and that's really dissapointing Or if fortus steps aside... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicDwolfwood Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, Gackt said: Neurotic Outsiders being a catalyst for the band staying together for as long as it had it's worth spending time diving into the history of the band to see who was invested in what decisions to see why the band was so fractured If Izzy wouldn't take what he was offered for a tour, a studio recording payout would be out of the question; Adler gives the impression he'd work for free to be with the band again, but Izzy's future with the band seems doubtful at best That made no sense...If your implying the band remain becaue Duff was busy then nah, you're wrong.. yeah, Izzy isnt having shit to do with them unless they shell out the Dough..Doubtful is being nice..Money was a sticking point between Axl and Izzy 25 years ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaguns1982 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 So izzy isn't in... No big deal really, he was out for most of the UYI tour, as was Adler. We are pretty much getting a similar thing tothe 92,93 tours. And they sold tickets just fine... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gackt Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 1 minute ago, TheSeeker said: There was really no way to do this proper with the way Izzy and Steven exited the band originally Unless they throw a bunch of money at Izzy for an Appetite 30th anniversary show next year, I don't think we'll ever see Axl/Slash/Duff/Izzy/Steven all perform on the same stage again, and that's really dissapointing 4/5 ain't bad The void can be filled by Dizzy fuckin' Reed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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