nikosgnr Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 So I have this theory a long time now about this reunion thing, hearing Axl speak in that way about Slash 5 years ago. Sharing this little story.. The way he speaks about him, the body language.. Perhaps the idea of making a reunion wasn't new.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estranged_85 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 I think media always made Axl's and Slash's feud bigger than it really was. Axl said that he's never ruled out a reunion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RussTCB Posted September 13, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2016 Just now, estranged_85 said: I think media always made Axl's and Slash's feud bigger than it really was. Axl said that he's never ruled out a reunion. Except of course when he said "Not in this lifetime" and all the times he insulted Slash prior to that. 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood Gunner Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 11 minutes ago, RussTCB said: Except of course when he said "Not in this lifetime" and all the times he insulted Slash prior to that. maybe the "not in this lifetime" was just a clue 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclamation Project Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Post-Coma Axl is a new lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Bumblefoot said that when he told GNR he was quitting in March 2014 they already told him that they were planning a reunion with slash in 2016. So we know that this has been in the works since early 2014, at least. Idk about any time earlier then that tho. Marc Canter said duff filling in for Stinson in early 2014 had a lot to do with slash and Axl eventually reconnecting. So i think it's safe to say that like very early 2014 was when reunion talks started getting serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrio Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Axl said that could play with duff and slash about 2012.if he said that were for something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEPTEM Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Im pretty sure they started to think about this on 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 No chance this was in consideration in 2010. If it was, Axl would showed at the Rock n roll hall of fame ceremony. I think it probably took a couple of years of duff communicating to Axl and slash and being the middle man beyond 2012 for Axl to see things weren't so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 2 hours ago, arrio said: Axl said that could play with duff and slash about 2012.if he said that were for something I think he just knew it was the most realistic scenario for a reunion. Steven wasn't even close to sober at the time, and was still spouting off at the mouth. A lot there has since changed. He clearly also knew izzy being the shrewd negotiator would be the one buzz kill in the whole scenario. It really wasn't hard to predict but I would have figured izzy and sorum would have been in before Steven and slash 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Cavalerra Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 He didn't look like a broke man in that video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 What "everything"? So far we have a threeunion tour that is really far from "everything". That would be -- yes -- Axl, Izzy, Slash, Duff and Steven and nobody else to spoil the fun. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkforgirls Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Perhaps the next tour could be the Piss the Bed Tour.... or Slash Taking a Slash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Lol guys what's wrong with you? Axl told you how it started, why searching for more? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 4 hours ago, rocknroll41 said: Bumblefoot said that when he told GNR he was quitting in March 2014 they already told him that they were planning a reunion with slash in 2016. So we know that this has been in the works since early 2014, at least. Idk about any time earlier then that tho. Marc Canter said duff filling in for Stinson in early 2014 had a lot to do with slash and Axl eventually reconnecting. So i think it's safe to say that like very early 2014 was when reunion talks started getting serious. I think that Bumblefoot interview got blown way out of proportion. First off, he never said he was told it was happening in 2016 - he simply said (And I'm still paraphrasing, but it's much closer to what he said) that he knew it was going to happen. That's a lot more open to interpretation. Personally, the way I took it was that he reached a point where he knew it was inevitable, and that's when he decided it was time to call it quits. He didn't know when it would happen, but he knew they were at a point of no return where it was bound to happen. But there's more reason to believe that it hadn't been in the works for that long also. There's the whole Ashba thing for starters. I seriously doubt that Axl asked him to be a part of the reunion. If he did, Axl is a lot more delusional than any of us thought - why the hell would he want to put both of his top-hatted guitarists onstage together where they could be directly compared? So let's go on the assumption that he was just talking out of his ass when he said that; it wouldn't be the first time. That means that there were no solid plans by the end of July 2015. On the other hand, let's assume that Axl did ask Ashba to be a part of it, and Ashba turned it down as he claims. Why did it take so long for him to step down? I hae a hard time believing Ashba wouldn't have known about the reunion far before July 2015 if he was still a part of the band, and even if he did, then why did it take so long for him to leave the band? And then there's Pitman - we know he was working on material with Axl as recently as September 2015 - he posted that video from Axl's house during a wild fire. If there was no intention to release music before the tour, then why/what were they working on back in September? Honestly, the timelines just don't align well enough for me to believe the reunion has been in the works for that long. I'm of the opinion that Axl had three members (Stinson, BBF, Ashba) leave within a relatively short timeframe, and instead of rebuilding the band from scratch yet again, he caved in and went for the reunion route. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaka Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 7 hours ago, Hollywood Gunner said: maybe the "not in this lifetime" was just a clue he was just giving a hint for the reunion tour's title! And we didn't get it! He fooled us!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RooSaa Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 In June 2015 Frank Ferrar said in an interview: "I don't know exactly what went down between those two but I haven't met Slash, he hasn't been around and he's not really welcome in the camp since I've been around." So if Slash wasnt welcomed in June 2015, then the reunion talks have to be later??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold top 78 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 (edited) IMO reunion plans were on the cards the second Axl decided to bring Duff on tour for SA. Axl spent years firing people or distancing himself from people that dared mention a reunion or force it. So why invite Duff when Axl would've known himself that all people will start talking about would've been a potential reunion ? I think the SA tour was the start if the rebuilding process. Edited September 14, 2016 by Gold top 78 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_rated96 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 IMO we have a pretty clear picture now of how it went down from Axl's interviews Axl's hatred towards Slash slowly wanes after he reconnects with Duff & Slash stops saying bad things about him in the media and only says nice things The Coachella promoter in mid 2015 asks if they would reunite for Coachella Axl decides, fuck it, I'll do it - I don't hate Slash that much any more and the money is too good to refuse. Puts out feelers. Speaks to Slash in mid 2015 over the phone, meets him face to face in late 2015 for dinner and they iron it out and chat about a tour. Agree on it. Nek minit tour happens six months later. I think it was all pretty simple, water under the bridge. Would love to know what was said at the dinner and if they ever really ironed out some of what was said. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 They simply caught the last train before it was too late 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Słash Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 3 hours ago, RooSaa said: In June 2015 Frank Ferrar said in an interview: "I don't know exactly what went down between those two but I haven't met Slash, he hasn't been around and he's not really welcome in the camp since I've been around." So if Slash wasnt welcomed in June 2015, then the reunion talks have to be later??? GNR is like Apple. The employees don't know whats going on or what the exact product is like until 1 or 2 days before launch. They only heard things people talking about it. But Axl dint go and tell them hey im having a reuinion with my old pals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RooSaa Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Just now, Slash787 said: GNR is like Apple. The employees don't know whats going on or what the exact product is like until 1 or 2 days before launch. They only heard things people talking about it. But Axl dint go and tell them hey im having a reuinion with my old pals. Okay, so the rest of the band, etc .. didnt knew about the plot of Axl and Slash getting back together, but at least Team Brazil have known about it. So they knew that Slash is eventually coming back and still shit-talking him, acting as if he is not welcomed etc .. at that time? Makes me wonder when the shit-talking stopped or if they maybe still talk shit behind his back ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Słash Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 1 minute ago, RooSaa said: Okay, so the rest of the band, etc .. didnt knew about the plot of Axl and Slash getting back together, but at least Team Brazil have known about it. So they knew that Slash is eventually coming back and still shit-talking him, acting as if he is not welcomed etc .. at that time? Makes me wonder when the shit-talking stopped or if they maybe still talk shit behind his back ... TB and others in the management knew for sure. When marc did that uproxx mini doc. Fernando had called him and said god knows what to him. I forgot what exactly said but it was not nice. It was something like marc spreading false rumors about the reunion even though fernando knew that the reunion is going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 (edited) 7 hours ago, Powerage5 said: I think that Bumblefoot interview got blown way out of proportion. First off, he never said he was told it was happening in 2016 - he simply said (And I'm still paraphrasing, but it's much closer to what he said) that he knew it was going to happen. That's a lot more open to interpretation. Personally, the way I took it was that he reached a point where he knew it was inevitable, and that's when he decided it was time to call it quits. He didn't know when it would happen, but he knew they were at a point of no return where it was bound to happen. But there's more reason to believe that it hadn't been in the works for that long also. There's the whole Ashba thing for starters. I seriously doubt that Axl asked him to be a part of the reunion. If he did, Axl is a lot more delusional than any of us thought - why the hell would he want to put both of his top-hatted guitarists onstage together where they could be directly compared? So let's go on the assumption that he was just talking out of his ass when he said that; it wouldn't be the first time. That means that there were no solid plans by the end of July 2015. On the other hand, let's assume that Axl did ask Ashba to be a part of it, and Ashba turned it down as he claims. Why did it take so long for him to step down? I hae a hard time believing Ashba wouldn't have known about the reunion far before July 2015 if he was still a part of the band, and even if he did, then why did it take so long for him to leave the band? And then there's Pitman - we know he was working on material with Axl as recently as September 2015 - he posted that video from Axl's house during a wild fire. If there was no intention to release music before the tour, then why/what were they working on back in September? Honestly, the timelines just don't align well enough for me to believe the reunion has been in the works for that long. I'm of the opinion that Axl had three members (Stinson, BBF, Ashba) leave within a relatively short timeframe, and instead of rebuilding the band from scratch yet again, he caved in and went for the reunion route. Bumblefoot's official youtube account commented on that interview saying (if memory servers): "in March 2014 I told the band I was quitting and said I would help find a replacement, and that's when they told me about the 2016 plans." Also, who's to say Pitman wasn't just chilling at Axl's house? Or working on that starwars teaser with him there since he claimed to have made that? Edited September 14, 2016 by rocknroll41 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesecake Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 4 hours ago, RooSaa said: Okay, so the rest of the band, etc .. didnt knew about the plot of Axl and Slash getting back together, but at least Team Brazil have known about it. So they knew that Slash is eventually coming back and still shit-talking him, acting as if he is not welcomed etc .. at that time? Makes me wonder when the shit-talking stopped or if they maybe still talk shit behind his back ... When did Fernando promise us that something big / good was gonna happen in 2-3 months time? Was it early last year? I'm too lazy to dig old posts. I remember many members here were calling his bluff when things were pretty quiet from the GN'R camp following that announcement....then this year....it bombed big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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