AxlsFavoriteRose Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 1 hour ago, downliner said: Haha I thought the exact same thing when reading the article as so many others. PTU is a great song Lyrically it's quite biographical too, there's quite a few lines in the song which Izzy has referenced in interviews, eg..... "I just found a million dollars which someone forgot" "pretty tied up" love love love Pretty Tied Up and this makes me love it more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 (edited) 23 hours ago, Jane M. said: he seemed to care neither for heavy metal, hardcore punk or the near-prog Queen influences that his bandmates had Definitely shows in his solo stuff, it's only got one dimenson. Edited September 17, 2016 by moreblack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 1 hour ago, The Holographic Universe said: Lol. I love Izzy, but he turned in shit songs that Axl and Slash had to work up into the songs on the album. Slash, has stated numerous times on record that Izzy was content with basic tracks; essentially demos. Izzy never had an interest in what it takes to be global band, which is why I always find the Kieth Richards comparisons empty, because Kieth knows. Izzy doesn't give a shut and that's fucking cool for that era of GNR, but to evolve and grow he had to leave. The band hasn't evolved since Izzy left in fact GNR has been less productive and his songs were still great material to work on, at least he brought ideas and cool riffs and guitar parts 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archtop Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 3 hours ago, The Holographic Universe said: Izzy doesn't give a shut and that's fucking cool for that era of GNR, but to evolve and grow he had to leave. How exactly did they evolve and grow without Izzy? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Słash Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 1 hour ago, starlight said: The band hasn't evolved since Izzy left in fact GNR has been less productive and his songs were still great material to work on, at least he brought ideas and cool riffs and guitar parts Very true, he is a very talented musician. GNR is a band where all of them needed each other, one gone and its just not the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stress Fracture Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Actually, regardless of whether you like it or not, out of all Izzy's UYI contributions, PTU does stick out as an anomaly. If I hadn't seen the credits, I'd think it was a Slash/Axl co-write. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good, Fuck'n, Night. Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 4 hours ago, The Holographic Universe said: Lol. I love Izzy, but he turned in shit songs that Axl and Slash had to work up into the songs on the album. Slash, has stated numerous times on record that Izzy was content with basic tracks; essentially demos. Izzy never had an interest in what it takes to be global band, which is why I always find the Kieth Richards comparisons empty, because Kieth knows. Izzy doesn't give a shut and that's fucking cool for that era of GNR, but to evolve and grow he had to leave. Go on, tell us about the groth & evolution of gunners after Izzy left. FFS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 5 hours ago, The Holographic Universe said: Lol. I love Izzy, but he turned in shit songs that Axl and Slash had to work up into the songs on the album. Slash, has stated numerous times on record that Izzy was content with basic tracks; essentially demos. Izzy never had an interest in what it takes to be global band, which is why I always find the Kieth Richards comparisons empty, because Kieth knows. Izzy doesn't give a shut and that's fucking cool for that era of GNR, but to evolve and grow he had to leave. Guns N' Roses - featuring Axl, Slash, and Duff as it were - have not released a single note of 'Guns N' Roses music' since Izzy left!! Where is this ''evolution and growth'' you discuss then? All the band did after finishing the Illusion tour was bicker, sit around in an expensive studio, bicker again, before quitting. Literally fuck all happened after 1993 sans a lousy Stones cover and decades of litigation!! Evolution and growth then? Unless you mean Snakepit and Chinese Democracy haha? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GivenToFly Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 7 hours ago, downliner said: Haha I thought the exact same thing when reading the article as so many others. PTU is a great song Lyrically it's quite biographical too, there's quite a few lines in the song which Izzy has referenced in interviews, eg..... "I just found a million dollars which someone forgot" "pretty tied up" I think he told a story once about finding a cheque for nine hundred thousand dollars that had been in his pocket for months, or something along those lines, I can't quite remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayno Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 7 hours ago, The Holographic Universe said: Lol. I love Izzy, but he turned in shit songs that Axl and Slash had to work up into the songs on the album. Slash, has stated numerous times on record that Izzy was content with basic tracks; essentially demos. Izzy never had an interest in what it takes to be global band, which is why I always find the Kieth Richards comparisons empty, because Kieth knows. Izzy doesn't give a shut and that's fucking cool for that era of GNR, but to evolve and grow he had to leave. Shit songs? Evolve and grow? I just laughed my ass off. By the way even Duff says in his book they were not able to write the same way they used to without Izzy. It really was a serious problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draguns Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 (edited) 9 hours ago, BorderlineCrazy said: Alright, then. Do Shadow Of Your Love, It Tastes Good, Don't It? and Sentimental Movie count? Why do you think I said etc.? My entire point was that they had songs previously. So from that 1990 quote, Axl said that Izzy brought 8 songs, Slash brought a full album, and Axl brought a full album. Is there a possibility that there are songs that we don't know about? Edited September 17, 2016 by Draguns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draguns Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 9 hours ago, Reclamation Project said: The Garden was written before Appetite also. I wish Crash Diet was on UYI II. Put it after You Could Be Mine, let Slash rip it up on the same BC Rich, and dump rubbish My World. Likewise. That song should have been on UYI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Darkenchantress Posted September 17, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2016 Duff McKagan said it all: Quote “The perception in popular culture is that the singer and the lead guitar player are generally the artistic brain trust of any band. In our case, Izzy was probably the most significant force—without his initial vision and his songwriting cues, there would have been no Guns N’ Roses.” -(Duff McKagan, It’s So Easy and Other Lies) It is kinda absurd to question Izzy's contributions to the band, to be honest. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRfan2008 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 10 hours ago, downliner said: Haha I thought the exact same thing when reading the article as so many others. PTU is a great song Lyrically it's quite biographical too, there's quite a few lines in the song which Izzy has referenced in interviews, eg..... "I just found a million dollars which someone forgot" "pretty tied up" I love Pretty Tied Up. It has one of the best lyrical lines in GN'R history: "Once there was this rock and roll band rollin' on the streets. Time went by and it became a joke!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustanUrchin Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 15 hours ago, Mendez said: Dizzy made it a dud when he jerked all over the song with his shitty rock saloon piano playing The saloon was in Liberace's outhouse. Drinking Coffin Varnish there inspired Axl to sneak grating keys onto multiple UYI tracks--injecting rotgut into badass rockers. Or, as Izzy put it: "On Illusion I did the basic tracks, then [Slash] did his tracks, like a month or two by himself. Then came Axl's vocal parts. I went back to Indiana. I'd been around for rehearsals, learning the songs and all that stuff. I didn't really listen to the record until it was out. When I finally did hear it, it was what I expected: The guitars were basically buried." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xBrownstonex Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 That article is really not that great. Its basically just listing all the songs, izzy has contributed or written and says it sounds like stones or aerosmith. Wow, everyone can do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerenityScorp Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 (edited) But, even so, without The Trinity , Izzy's Songs will never be big N' probably ended like His Solo stuff N' He even never try to promote it *IMO* So No Trinity, No Guns N' Roses too Edited September 17, 2016 by SerenityScorp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerenityScorp Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Am I the only one who love You Ain't The First? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby845 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 9 hours ago, Slash787 said: Speaking of influences... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Słash Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Just now, scooby845 said: Speaking of influences... LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby845 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Just now, Slash787 said: LOL what do you mean... GNR and Skid Row always came in package together...!! The landmark of an era! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Słash Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 1 minute ago, scooby845 said: what do you mean... GNR and Skid Row always came in package together...!! The landmark of an era! Yeah a reunited Skid Row opening for GNR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby845 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 3 minutes ago, Slash787 said: Yeah a reunited Skid Row opening for GNR. let's get the conversation to the initial point... LOL for what? I was surprised regarding the similitude but then again as I said they were in it together so that explains it .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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