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1 hour ago, Graeme said:

This was what I was trying to explain to Len; 'should be a piece of piss' doesn't really come into it because this isn't a question of attitude or bravery... It's something that happens physically, irrespective of your conscious mind.

The effects, such as nausea, nervousness, dry mouth, et cetera, may well be physical in their manifestations, but the underlying issues are mental. It isn't as simple as putting a brave face on things and pressing on, but psychosomatic issues are caused by electrical impulses from the brain and dumps of adrenaline. To combat them you need to see a specialist who can guide you through the underlying reasons which may, or may not, be deeper than what you think they are on a surface level.

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1 hour ago, PappyTron said:

The effects, such as nausea, nervousness, dry mouth, et cetera, may well be physical in their manifestations, but the underlying issues are mental. It isn't as simple as putting a brave face on things and pressing on, but psychosomatic issues are caused by electrical impulses from the brain and dumps of adrenaline. To combat them you need to see a specialist who can guild you through the underlying reasons which may, or may not, be deeper than what you think they are on a surface level.

Cannae argue with any of that. Well said. (Although, note that I did say conscious mind and never actively discounted the psychosomatic origin of the physical symptoms).

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2 hours ago, AxlsFavoriteRose said:

you're so nice :)

yes i know well about anxiety. the first panic attack i had i was driving down the freeway and i thought i was having a stroke though i was very young. my hands went numb, my face went numb and my heart felt like it was going to burst out of my chest.

but i wasn't diagnosed until years later. now i have gone from panic attacks to what they call panic disorder and on top of the meds i was on for the panic attacks they gave me something supposed to be for depression even though i am not depressed! but it seems to be making things somewhat better. idk i'm a mess!

*hugs*

Hey, you're not a mess..your body just over-reacts sometimes!..and you can't help it that you have those symptoms any more than an allergy sufferer can help having a bout of sneezing around whatever their trigger is. :) 

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1 hour ago, Graeme said:

This was what I was trying to explain to Len; 'should be a piece of piss' doesn't really come into it because this isn't a question of attitude or bravery... It's something that happens physically, irrespective of your conscious mind.

Yes very true. And what Pappytron said was helpful..finding a way to calm the sympathetic nervous system is key...whether that be through therapies such as repeated exposure (eg the more presentations you do the less frightening, and more "old hat" it will seem) or through a buffer that directly affects the brain's chemistry, is something you will have to determine is best for you ;)

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12 minutes ago, Whiskey Rose said:

Yes very true. And what Pappytron said was helpful..finding a way to calm the sympathetic nervous system is key...whether that be through therapies such as repeated exposure (eg the more presentations you do the less frightening, and more "old hat" it will seem) or through a buffer that directly affects the brain's chemistry, is something you will have to determine is best for you ;)

I don't think, in my case, that exposure therapy is the answer. I experience the same physical symptoms when I get up to play with my band and I've been doing that pretty regularly since I was 16. This is a good example of it not being a question of attitude, because I love playing live music and I get a lot out of it. I'm just sick of my body doing its best to sabotage every show, between the dry throat that has me downing about 2 pints of water in a half hour show just to keep my voice functional, and the violently shaking hands which make playing guitar ten times harder than usual. Ideally, I'd like a way to prevent these physical symptoms from happening so that I can play on stage in exactly the same physical state as I do in rehearsal. Same principle for giving presentations... or making phonecalls... or telling girls that I like how I feel... etc.

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10 minutes ago, Graeme said:

I don't think, in my case, that exposure therapy is the answer. I experience the same physical symptoms when I get up to play with my band and I've been doing that pretty regularly since I was 16. This is a good example of it not being a question of attitude, because I love playing live music and I get a lot out of it. I'm just sick of my body doing its best to sabotage every show, between the dry throat that has me downing about 2 pints of water in a half hour show just to keep my voice functional, and the violently shaking hands which make playing guitar ten times harder than usual. Ideally, I'd like a way to prevent these physical symptoms from happening so that I can play on stage in exactly the same physical state as I do in rehearsal. Same principle for giving presentations... or making phonecalls... or telling girls that I like how I feel... etc.

Yes, you shouldn't have to deal with this all the time, in all these situations. It's all linked though. Have you queried your doctor about this, I really think there are certain medications that could be beneficial to you. And you may already be familiar with it, but I also recommend reading about the Highly Sensitive Person (HSP).

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I've got my car, school and ltd all on my mind right now, trying to save my car, not get any fines for no insurance... Trying to not get kicked out of class for not doing my work, trying to gain access to my gateway account with HMRC to file my first report of the state of business with my LTD/(limited liability company) due next month.

 

I lie to myself and say I can handle it but I've got to step up. Sort out my car first, then/and school too.

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1 hour ago, Snake-Pit said:

I've got my car, school and ltd all on my mind right now, trying to save my car, not get any fines for no insurance... Trying to not get kicked out of class for not doing my work, trying to gain access to my gateway account with HMRC to file my first report of the state of business with my LTD/(limited liability company) due next month.

 

I lie to myself and say I can handle it but I've got to step up. Sort out my car first, then/and school too.

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On 13 October 2016 at 3:20 AM, Graeme said:

I don't think, in my case, that exposure therapy is the answer. I experience the same physical symptoms when I get up to play with my band and I've been doing that pretty regularly since I was 16. This is a good example of it not being a question of attitude, because I love playing live music and I get a lot out of it. I'm just sick of my body doing its best to sabotage every show, between the dry throat that has me downing about 2 pints of water in a half hour show just to keep my voice functional, and the violently shaking hands which make playing guitar ten times harder than usual. Ideally, I'd like a way to prevent these physical symptoms from happening so that I can play on stage in exactly the same physical state as I do in rehearsal. Same principle for giving presentations... or making phonecalls... or telling girls that I like how I feel... etc.

Mate, just about every performer of rock music describes the same shit, you'll be alright man, dont get on no meds, all that shit is bad for ya.

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OR!..

 

Have you tried wearing sunglasses on stage?

Maybe sunglasses and a big ol' hat!

 

Helps Slash, same tactic probably helps Bucket Head.

 

It helped me stripping once with my whole 'Bandana Shades' idea...

 

It's like, I can see you but you can't see me mentality...

 

Try it out, wear sunglasses on stage, may just help. @Graeme

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