11/05/16 Buenos Aires, AR - River Plate Stadium *2nd Show*

[BorderlineCrazy]

1 hour ago, argen17793 said:

excelente!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

gracias por contar lo que dijo axl, no se escucho de este lado!!!!!!

De nada! 

2 hours ago, scooby845 said:

@BorderlineCrazy

This is awesome for Adler in Roxy!!

What was the reason for happening?

Did you attend?

How did you find about? 

What is this band? I thought at least Adler band would perform with Steven...

So many questions....

Anything else? 

I was told by a friend this was happening the day of the Rosario show (it wasn't confirmed at that point I think, but it was a strong rumor), I wasn't able to attend, though which as a bummer but I was destroyed and had to get up early the next day.

The promoters who brough SMKC every time, Axl in 2014 and (I think) Adler's Appetite in 2007 are also the owners of The Roxy. They probably had something to do with Steven playing in Argentina and I assume they invited him to do this show. As you know, Steven would NEVER say no.

These guys (promoters) also happen to have their own cover bands. If you remember, last year when Gilby opened for SMKC he came alone and just played the gigs with one of these bands.

Edited November 7, 2016 by BorderlineCrazy

[Russel Nash]

16 minutes ago, BorderlineCrazy said:

De nada! 

Anything else? 

I was told by a friend this was happening the day of the Rosario show (it wasn't confirmed at that point I think, but it was a strong rumor), I wasn't able to attend, though which as a bummer but I was destroyed and had to get up early the next day.

The promoters who brough SMKC every time, Axl in 2014 and (I think) Adler's Appetite in 2007 are also the owners of The Roxy. They probably had something to do with Steven playing in Argentina and I assume they invited him to do this show. As you know, Steven would NEVER say no.

These guys (promoters) also happen to have their own cover bands. If you remember, last year when Gilby opened for SMKC he came alone and just played the gigs with one of these bands.

Coverheads and Glamnation Party? are you talking about those?

[nonok]

2 hours ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

To be honest I wouldn't mind Estranged and November Rain being alternated and Axl playing the piano parts of both.

No way, Estranged is way too big of a gem to be alternated. NR, on the other hand, well it's one of my favourite GNR songs and it used to be a beast live (especially when Slash got on top of the piano) but now it's a huge downer because of the weak vocals. They could alternate it with Don't Cry and have Patience as a staple. But that ain't happening, so...

[gnr5]

14 minutes ago, nonok said:

No way, Estranged is way too big of a gem to be alternated. NR, on the other hand, well it's one of my favourite GNR songs and it used to be a beast live (especially when Slash got on top of the piano) but now it's a huge downer because of the weak vocals. They could alternate it with Don't Cry and have Patience as a staple. But that ain't happening, so...

They won't drag a whole piano on tour for a possible alternate. November Rain is has been on every GNR show since '91 except a few shows here and here

[BorderlineCrazy]

39 minutes ago, Russel Nash said:

Coverheads and Glamnation Party? are you talking about those?

Yeah, those and also the band Son Of A Gun which is the one Steven joined.

[nonok]

25 minutes ago, gnr5 said:

They won't drag a whole piano on tour for a possible alternate. November Rain is has been on every GNR show since '91 except a few shows here and here

Yep, that's why I said it's not going to happen,  un42nutzly. NR is arguably GNR's most famous track, maybe even more so than Sweet Child.

[IncitingChaos]

44 minutes ago, gnr5 said:

They won't drag a whole piano on tour for a possible alternate. November Rain is has been on every GNR show since '91 except a few shows here and here

Did they play it at the Troubadour this year? 

And as far as Axl's vocals go on November Rain he just needs to make a style change on the vocals and it will be amazing. If Bon Scott was the original singer there would be full chest voice rasp on this song haha

[scooby845]

1 hour ago, BorderlineCrazy said:

De nada! 

Anything else? 

I was told by a friend this was happening the day of the Rosario show (it wasn't confirmed at that point I think, but it was a strong rumor), I wasn't able to attend, though which as a bummer but I was destroyed and had to get up early the next day.

The promoters who brough SMKC every time, Axl in 2014 and (I think) Adler's Appetite in 2007 are also the owners of The Roxy. They probably had something to do with Steven playing in Argentina and I assume they invited him to do this show. As you know, Steven would NEVER say no.

These guys (promoters) also happen to have their own cover bands. If you remember, last year when Gilby opened for SMKC he came alone and just played the gigs with one of these bands.

THanks!! But I did not understand... this show with Adler happened on the day of GnR rosario show or thats when you found out about it?

[BorderlineCrazy]

Just now, scooby845 said:

THanks!! But I did not understand... this show with Adler happened on the day of GnR rosario show or thats when you found out about it?

That's when I found out. It happened a few hours after the last Buenos Aires show, saturday night.

[gnr5]

1 hour ago, IncitingChaos said:

Did they play it at the Troubadour this year? 

And as far as Axl's vocals go on November Rain he just needs to make a style change on the vocals and it will be amazing. If Bon Scott was the original singer there would be full chest voice rasp on this song haha

They didn't play it probably because they couldn't fit the piano on that small stage. 

[andy_rose]

To be honest...those vids from the roxy with steven...wow

[lucasnesposito]

https://www.youtube.com/user/joepekado/videos

 

This it is loaded all the show seems, I hope that loaded complete. Maybe can be armed one CD Mp3

[Stro]

I'd for sure take Estranged over NR if I had to make a choice. 25% of the show is 3 songs right now.

[cheesecake]

7 hours ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

I would love to hear Axl play Estranged though  if that means November Rain goes then so be it. 

He once said that he doesn't remember how to play Estranged anymore so Diz is needed for that to be performed live.

[Mendez]

Apparently after the show

[Estranged Reality]

Listened to Jungle...Axl sounds good - anyone saying this is bad has a short memory.

I'm not saying people shouldn't criticize where criticism is due, but I'm just still amazed that we're even seeing these guys on stage again, considering where we were a couple years ago. And I think a lot of the comments are overly harsh/critical because some people just enjoy complaining. 

Listen to the outro scream on the Jungle from this show and compare it to 2012-2014. 

[BorderlineCrazy]

Here's Steven being extremely nice to Airbag's singer/lead guitar player. Steven's the sweetest!

 

[Gibbo]

I dont think Axl enjoys playing November Rain one bit

[IncitingChaos]

41 minutes ago, Estranged Reality said:

Listened to Jungle...Axl sounds good - anyone saying this is bad has a short memory.

I'm not saying people shouldn't criticize where criticism is due, but I'm just still amazed that we're even seeing these guys on stage again, considering where we were a couple years ago. And I think a lot of the comments are overly harsh/critical because some people just enjoy complaining. 

Listen to the outro scream on the Jungle from this show and compare it to 2012-2014. 

Eh those opening lines are weak as hell but he recovers nicely.

And since you asked 

just a random from typing in "welcome to the jungle 2012" on YouTube. Put those vocals with that crowd and it's a better performance.

ill admit his 2016 screams have been unbelievable, but this SA tour falls in line with 11-14 vocal work. Which if you check out my post in greatest moments from 01-14 you will see that's not terrible, but it's just not what he was doing on the NA side. However maybe it was unrealistic to maintain that pace

[IncitingChaos]

But if you want a great outro scream then look no further @Estranged Reality

where do we find that guy...oh wait that was a month and half ago...

that scream probably sent his vocals back 4 years though. 

It was so loud it made Angus' guitar sound out of tune when he started playing again...

Edited November 8, 2016 by IncitingChaos

[agno]

15 hours ago, BorderlineCrazy said:

Oh, almost forgot to post this!! Here are some videos of Steven playing at the Roxy after the show. Don't know if he only played these songs but it's really cool he did You Could Be Mine and Back Off Bitch!! 

 

 

 

 

King Steven! 

[LA_0013]

That band has some decent punch - the YCBM and Back of Bitch are very old school GNR-like in terms of tempo and delivery

[Cughall'a]

On 6/11/2016 at 1:20 PM, Adrianb1983 said:

I think theres a tiny difference between just being a pecho frio and arriving 10 minutes before the show and bully your way to the stage. Those people to me are not energetic fans or anything cool, just assholes that get together with 10 of their other assholes friends and think they own the fuckin place. It might look cool on a DVD (i love the acdc DVD at River btw) but it doesnt take away the fact that many people do it not for the music but just to get as close to the stage as they can. Oh, how passionate! If they want to be close to the stage thats cool, but then show your passion for the band waking up early and waiting 10 hs for the doors to open. I went with my sister and I couldve deal with that shit being 1.86 m tall but seeing my 1.6 m tall sister right in the middle of that shit was not so fun. I still recognize thats the whole thing about being in a concert in this country, I just hate how sometimes "passion" is just used as an excuse for being a dick. Barrabravas come to my mind, its great watching them on tv (or better if you are sittng in thr platea) singing the songs for their club and celebrating each goal, making it quite a show by itself, but at the end of the day they are plain thugs. 

Yeah... I know.

[Free Bird]

Did they play a Baby, I'm gonna leave you-medley before Don't Cry?

[lost un the jungle]

Ok guys, here goes my review of 11/05/2016

I arived to the stadium 8:45 PM, but the show didn't start until 10 PM. It was a hot night, and inside the field with the crowd packed in the front was really great!

First songs Easy + Brownstone were great, I like the idea of starting with quiet songs and escalate to heavier ones. People wasn't receptive with Chinese but after that the perfect storm ocurred with Jungle! All went insane with the song, it is something only possible to describe if you see a video of the crowd. I must say that I don't listen to the classic hits by my own (Jungle, SCOM, etc) but I totally agree that they have to be in the setlist because it is what people wants to hear. At this point Axl's voice sounds very good, Jungle never fails and the low tone first songs are perfect. Double Talking is a song that I never listen but believe me that sounds great live! Better intro made during this tour makes the song more fluent and you don't sick about the guitar melody in the first minute, all credits to Slash here.

Estranged is performed perfect, what can I say about Slash solos... he made them and plays them like hell! Axl's voice here is in resting-mode (or Mickey for others) but is the way he sings this song since it was brought back to the setlist in Rio 2011. Live and Let Die shows Axl again with his most powerful voice and people gone crazy bumping each others. Rocket Queen is an awesome song, one of the best in my opinion, but I didin't like the way it was played. Fortus fucked up the first solo and for a moment I thought the band lost the track. Maybe it was rehearsed this way, but I didn't like it. You Could Be Mine was incredible, the energy this song brings is great, I love the rythm guitar parts (copyright: Izzy) and Frank's intro sounds like if it was played by a machine: simple but fast at the same time, can't describe it...

In the forum here says that next song was attitude but not, it was New Rose and performed by Duff. This I Love is a beautiful song, one of the best of CD, and Axl always sings it perfect. Civil War, another great song performed extraordinarily and closing with Voodo Child by Slash, recalling Illusions tour. Coma is a very good song but in my opinion it shouldn't be played, it is insane the amount of lyrics Axl has to sign at the end and you can see the guy really struggles to hit the notes. It is an excellent studio song but that's it. After that another hit that made the crowd, specially ladies, explode: Sweet Child. Steven was there for My Michelle, but he only did this song, I expected Out Ta Get Me too (love this song). Slash and Fortus played Wish you were here their way, and seems like these two guys really enjoy playing each other.

November Rain has Axl on the piano and the play a song (instrumental) at the beggining. Pyro at the end is great!. Then Knockin', a song that to me should have been out of the setlist 15 years ago, but again, it is what people wants to listen, this guys know it and I respect it. After that the best song: Nightrain. The guitars are amazing, drums are amazing and Axl is amazing too. Patience was played with electric + acoustic guitars and then The Seeker. Finally we had Paradise City, and that was it for a 2:15 hours show.

 

These are my thoughts about this tour:

- Is it a "cash grab"? Of course cash plays a very important role. Adding Slash + Duff makes GNR jump from 80% arenas to 100% stadiums (do your maths). But also I think the guys were tired of fighting, specifically Axl and Slash. Duff was reconciled with Axl long ago, even toured with him. Axl couldn't do another tour without new material and bringing the guys back was the right move.

- Axl's voice is fucked up? No, the guy proved with AC DC that he can sing an entire show with the higher tones and kill it. With GNR songs he "administrates" his voice and uses it in specific songs (Jungle, Nightrain, Rocket Queen, LALD, etc). Let's face that the guy is 54 years old and still kick ass.

- Fortus is a horrible player? No, the guy is really talented and there is no way Slash played with him if the guy sucks. Remember the Paul Tobias thing that was the last drop that made Slash quit in the past.

- Is Melissa necessary? I think with Dizzy only is more than enough. There are not many sintethizers parts, but I think Axl's hand is here.

- Frank sucks? No way. The guy is a correct player. Don't be naive, they picked Frank instead of Steven just to not have any issues. Steven is a great guy, he has a spot now, but they don't want to fuck up any concert. As "dangerous" as Duff and Slash look, they are totally pros and there is no way that there is any incident with the band.

- Is it really a reunion or New GNR + Slash + Duff? The facts show that this is it. CD songs are played, the same covers (Seeker, etc) and what we earned with Slash and Duff were some Illusions songs and, of course, their presence. We will have to see if new material comes out next year to see if GNR as a band is really back.

Thanks for you time reading. I love this forum.

 

César