Len Cnut Posted November 13, 2016 Author Share Posted November 13, 2016 1 hour ago, spunko12345 said: Sikh bastard I know people often say this on forums but that really did make me laugh out loud Even funnier as 'sick' is actually the proper way its said, as opposed to 'seek' like how its pronnounced in the west. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, Len Cnut said: I know people often say this on forums but that really did make me laugh out loud Even funnier as 'sick' is actually the proper way its said, as opposed to 'seek' like how its pronnounced in the west. As I said, at least it wasn't Panesar. His meltdown has already included such delights as peeing on a bouncer, and ballooning up in weight. I do not think my atypical Barmy Army Monty worship could withstand a noncing accusation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
action Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 being a father myself and seeing firsthand how vulnerable children are, and what I'd do to protect my son against such scumbags, I see it all in perspective. I think these pedo hunters are fucking heroes. I live in Belgium. the country where a pedo raping bishop walks a free man without a day in jail, or a convicted child mudress can buy expensive handbags in expensive shops. this means that if justice fails, people more than have the right to act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 1 hour ago, action said: being a father myself and seeing firsthand how vulnerable children are, and what I'd do to protect my son against such scumbags, I see it all in perspective. I think these pedo hunters are fucking heroes. I live in Belgium. the country where a pedo raping bishop walks a free man without a day in jail, or a convicted child mudress can buy expensive handbags in expensive shops. this means that if justice fails, people more than have the right to act. They love a bit of pedophilia round your way, dont they? Famous for it, Belgians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
action Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 22 minutes ago, Len Cnut said: They love a bit of pedophilia round your way, dont they? Famous for it, Belgians. they sure do. you guys are aware of that? that figures... there's lots of reasons I'd like to leave this god forsaken place. that's one of them. one thing that eases my mind, is my forefathers emigrated to Belgium from the Netherlands, so I'm not really a belgian. I've always had more of a connection with dutch people than with Belgians. I prefer dutch humour and hospitality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 59 minutes ago, action said: they sure do. you guys are aware of that? that figures... there's lots of reasons I'd like to leave this god forsaken place. that's one of them. one thing that eases my mind, is my forefathers emigrated to Belgium from the Netherlands, so I'm not really a belgian. I've always had more of a connection with dutch people than with Belgians. I prefer dutch humour and hospitality. I'm aware of it up to the extent that its something people say, dunno how true it is tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 On 10/11/2016 at 6:05 PM, DieselDaisy said: Nonce: ''Who are you?'' Vigilante bloke: ''Tracy. I'm your new girlfriend''. Hahaha PS Bloke: ''is this you (mobile phone picture)?'' Nonce: ''No, that is my twin brother''. Something about the way that nonce hunter speaks when hes angry sounded familiar, the way he stretches out his words, couldnt put my finger on it until now but its just hit me, hes doin an impersonation of Tom Hardy doing Ron Kray from the film Legend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan H. Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 (edited) I dunno how I feel about this. Pedodophilia is really complicated, and barely understood. Just the word conjures up this monsterous cartoonish image of an old man raping kids and preying on them at night, but often times that mental image doesn't stack up to reality. Consider this, what makes a pedophile a pedophile? Its simply an attraction to kids, right? But does being attracted to kids make you a predator? I have to assume that being attracted to children doesn't make you a rapist or a predator, in the same way that being attracted to women doesn't make you a rapist or a predator. Sexual attraction doesn't cause abuse, its gotta be something else. Unfortunately we don't really know what that something else is, thus its impossible to separate the sick from the violent. There are a lot of accounts I have read of self described pedophiles who do not abuse, but have difficulty controlling their sexual urges. We don't often consider this as something that we could try treating as a disease rather than a moral failure. Obviously child pornography is an awful thing because it features actual abuse of children. But what about artificial child pornography? Could that be a possible way of helping non-violent pedos control their urges and avoid being entrapped in situations like this? Perhaps it would make things worse, and cause the urges to grow. Either way its interesting to consider sympathy as a viewpoint in these situations. Honestly a lot of the people in these videos seem ill, stupid, or confused. They don't seem malicious or manipulative or evil, like we seem to enjoy characterizing pedos. I wonder if these techniques that the vigilantes use are fair. Seems like entrapment to me. Surely there are better ways for a society to deal with this issue? Something else to consider: Are all people who abuse children pedophiles, or are many of them sadists or sociopaths? What's the difference, or is there none? Edited November 17, 2016 by Dan H. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gracii Guns Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 @Dan H. makes very good points. While I hate to bring it up, through the 60s and 70s, the standard way of dealing with paedophiles was to try to treat the problem, the urges. This was pretty much universal. So you would get moved to a different job or town… as understanding the psychology behind it was more or less nonexistent. So this idea of institutions "covering up" sexual abuse isn't as true as some people believe. It was dealt with badly, as it turns out it didn't work. But the theory behind the approach, that to sexually desire a minor as distorted was sort of attempted to be dealt with. Rather than today's approach which is a prison sentence and remaining on a register for life. That seems to work better, as in they don't recommit. But they might not change their minds on being into children. There is a particular streak of the socially conservative folk who believe that paedophilia will be legalised within our lifetimes, as western society is departing from the old norms of marriage being only for heterosexual people, with the purpose of procreation. If equality means being able to legally practise ones' sexual preferences, the logic is that this should also apply to those who prefer children. (I'm not saying I agree with this at all). Just food for thought. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan H. Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Conservatives who make that point in response to gay marriage clearly do not understand consent. Consenting adults can do whatever they like in the bedroom for all I care, but a child does not have a brain that is developed enough to process sexual consent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PappyTron Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 2 hours ago, Dan H. said: I dunno how I feel about this. Pedodophilia is really complicated, and barely understood. Just the word conjures up this monsterous cartoonish image of an old man raping kids and preying on them at night, but often times that mental image doesn't stack up to reality. Consider this, what makes a pedophile a pedophile? Its simply an attraction to kids, right? But does being attracted to kids make you a predator? I have to assume that being attracted to children doesn't make you a rapist or a predator, in the same way that being attracted to women doesn't make you a rapist or a predator. Sexual attraction doesn't cause abuse, its gotta be something else. Unfortunately we don't really know what that something else is, thus its impossible to separate the sick from the violent. There are a lot of accounts I have read of self described pedophiles who do not abuse, but have difficulty controlling their sexual urges. We don't often consider this as something that we could try treating as a disease rather than a moral failure. Obviously child pornography is an awful thing because it features actual abuse of children. But what about artificial child pornography? Could that be a possible way of helping non-violent pedos control their urges and avoid being entrapped in situations like this? Perhaps it would make things worse, and cause the urges to grow. Either way its interesting to consider sympathy as a viewpoint in these situations. Honestly a lot of the people in these videos seem ill, stupid, or confused. They don't seem malicious or manipulative or evil, like we seem to enjoy characterizing pedos. I wonder if these techniques that the vigilantes use are fair. Seems like entrapment to me. Surely there are better ways for a society to deal with this issue? Something else to consider: Are all people who abuse children pedophiles, or are many of them sadists or sociopaths? What's the difference, or is there none? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Some of the younger nonces (including a young soldier) think they are meeting a fifteen year old; they are probably thinking, ''because I'm only twenty-one, it does not really matter as she'll be sixteen soon anyway?''. I do find it far less reprehensible that this one sicko who turned up to meet an (decoy) eleven old girl and had even sent her child pornography. I think there should be a noncemeter, establishing the severity of the noncing, twelve years or under and penis shots equating category A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 (edited) This is always gonna be the best show on nonces. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcU7FaEEzNU I've not embedded it on purpose. Edited November 17, 2016 by Dazey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PappyTron Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 24 minutes ago, Dazey said: This is always gonna be the best show on nonces. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcU7FaEEzNU I've not embedded it on purpose. I know what it is and I don't even need to click to confirm it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlsFavoriteRose Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 4 minutes ago, PappyTron said: I know what it is and I don't even need to click to confirm it. nice to see you Pappy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PappyTron Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 1 minute ago, AxlsFavoriteRose said: nice to see you Pappy Likewise. Always a pleasure, never a chore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlsFavoriteRose Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Just now, PappyTron said: Likewise. Always a pleasure, never a chore. aww so sweet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liers Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 On 11/17/2016 at 2:52 PM, Dan H. said: I dunno how I feel about this. Pedodophilia is really complicated, and barely understood. Just the word conjures up this monsterous cartoonish image of an old man raping kids and preying on them at night, but often times that mental image doesn't stack up to reality. Consider this, what makes a pedophile a pedophile? Its simply an attraction to kids, right? But does being attracted to kids make you a predator? I have to assume that being attracted to children doesn't make you a rapist or a predator, in the same way that being attracted to women doesn't make you a rapist or a predator. Sexual attraction doesn't cause abuse, its gotta be something else. Unfortunately we don't really know what that something else is, thus its impossible to separate the sick from the violent. There are a lot of accounts I have read of self described pedophiles who do not abuse, but have difficulty controlling their sexual urges. We don't often consider this as something that we could try treating as a disease rather than a moral failure. I think society has to focus more on helping them control their urges. Locking them up doesn't do much except make them angry and gets them fucked up the ass by some dude named Bubba. Sure it keeps them away from kids, but then they get out and now they're just angry horny people who can't get a job. Normal people can control their urges. Most people can see a smoking hot 25 year old in the grocery store without attacking her in the frozen food aisle. It's a lack of control, it's a mental thing I think. They lack the ability to set limits. Normal people don't fall in love with little kids. Normal people don't fall in love with their siblings or cousins. Normal people know it's wrong and their mind sets limits without them even knowing. The focus needs to be shifted to finding out why they think the way they do and how to fix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liers Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 On 11/17/2016 at 6:14 PM, DieselDaisy said: Some of the younger nonces (including a young soldier) think they are meeting a fifteen year old; they are probably thinking, ''because I'm only twenty-one, it does not really matter as she'll be sixteen soon anyway?''. I do find it far less reprehensible that this one sicko who turned up to meet an (decoy) eleven old girl and had even sent her child pornography. I think there should be a noncemeter, establishing the severity of the noncing, twelve years or under and penis shots equating category A. A 21 year old with a 15 year is a big difference. A 15 year old is in the first years of highschool while a 21 year old is out at a bar drinking. Later in life that 6 year difference is nothing. Noone would find anything wrong with a 22 year old with a 28 year old, or even 18 and 24.... But right now the 15 year old is still a kid and the 21 year old is an adult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 17 hours ago, liers said: A 21 year old with a 15 year is a big difference. A 15 year old is in the first years of highschool while a 21 year old is out at a bar drinking. Later in life that 6 year difference is nothing. Noone would find anything wrong with a 22 year old with a 28 year old, or even 18 and 24.... But right now the 15 year old is still a kid and the 21 year old is an adult. I was down the pub when i was 15. Come to that i was when i was 13 when i could Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 There is an one which throws light on how it sits uneasy with the law, when a cop, having offered the Paedo his arrest speech, says (to the hunters), ''and I'm not happy with this so if you don't come voluntary I'll arrest you''. Another problem with this is that, If it hasn't happened already, there will be one day when they will get the wrong man, some poor bastard a who has genuinely had his phone stolen. They will get sued to smithereens and potentially locked up themselves - hopefully for their sake not on the nonce wing haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 On 20/11/2016 at 4:35 PM, liers said: A 21 year old with a 15 year is a big difference. A 15 year old is in the first years of highschool while a 21 year old is out at a bar drinking. Later in life that 6 year difference is nothing. Noone would find anything wrong with a 22 year old with a 28 year old, or even 18 and 24.... But right now the 15 year old is still a kid and the 21 year old is an adult. Yes but I cannot be the only one who sees a difference between a 51 year old trenchcoated grizzled bugger grooming an eleven year old, to a twenty year old who is wanking like a maniac to what he believes to be a fifteen year old (and doesn't even bother to meet) in between bouts of Playstation. Just look at the clips: some of them certainly contain more disgusting individuals and recorded incidents than others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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