Zint Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 For Len... *mwa* http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/7573301/johnny-thunders-biopic-new-york-dolls-jonas-akerlund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 sacrilegious. not to be all precious about this but watch this sudden stream of 'oh i've been into his stuff for YEARS!' comin' out of the woodwork. i hate the idea of biopics, they have an awful sanitising homogenizing effect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 In Cold Blood demystified him a bit where it wasn't all about the fighting and being strung out, I could see why a biopic's being made. Adrien Brody would probably be my pick even if he's a little too old to play someone in their teens (although you have CGI, makeup, camera filters smoothing lines out), but most of the NY Dolls stuff up to the early 90s, I don't see why not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 How are they gonna sanitise that? Gang War, WHAT a fuckin' band, Wayne Kramer and Johnny Thunders on the same squad, whooooooooooooo! Any fans of Johnny that ain't heard the Gang War recordings you need to get on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 The famous banned Swedish performance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zint Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 Hey if it steers a few kids towards the real shit, I'm all for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Dog Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 4 hours ago, Len Cnut said: How are they gonna sanitise that? Gang War, WHAT a fuckin' band, Wayne Kramer and Johnny Thunders on the same squad, whooooooooooooo! Any fans of Johnny that ain't heard the Gang War recordings you need to get on that. Where to start with Gang War? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 (edited) 4 hours ago, J Dog said: Where to start with Gang War? Theres not really anywhere but the one place to start with Gang War, they never got round to making an album, just a bunch of live recordings out there but those recordings are just fantastic. The album i think is just called Gang War. They must've been planning to record or something because they wrote some tracks but for one reason or another they never got round to it. It was basically the first band Kramer got together after comin' out from his 1975 prison stretch for cocaine trafficking. Edited November 15, 2016 by Len Cnut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 the famous Pistols diss track in reply to 'New York' Jimmy Cliff cover MC5 cover https://www.amazon.com/Gang-War-Thunders/dp/B0002233V4 thats the album 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 pretty good eh? 12 hours ago, Zint said: Hey if it steers a few kids towards the real shit, I'm all for it. Fuck the kids, let em find out the hard way, i had to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Dog Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Yeah I can dig it. Checking 'em out as we speak. (this is after LAMF and So Alone correct?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 1 minute ago, J Dog said: Yeah I can dig it. Checking 'em out as we speak. (this is after LAMF and So Alone correct?) It is yeah, well after, like mid 80s. They split eventually over a disagreement regarding money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Dog Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 It's always money or dope. I love that Pistols diss track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 (edited) 8 minutes ago, J Dog said: It's always money or dope. I love that Pistols diss track So do i...grudgingly . Bastards, havin' a go at my boys To be fair though The Pistols (or rather Johnny Rotten, the rest of the band were massive fans, Vicious idolised Johnny Thunders, Steve Jones is on record saying that he copied all of Johnnys onstage moves and is embarassed now looking back at how badly he was trying to ape him) started it. And his observations are so sharp too! The rich kids bit aside, he kinda went to England and totally figured them out...fact is they kinda were kids, teenagers, the bands as well as the crowd, they hadn't seen shit compared to Johnny. Listen to som of the live recordings of Johnny back in them days in England too, he REALLY gives it to the crowd with both barrels...and those were some seriously violent audiences. Edited November 15, 2016 by Len Cnut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 random johnny track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Dog Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Liking Gang War, gonna try and find that album today. Hate I got into Thunders so late but better than never I guess. One of my favorites... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 5 hours ago, J Dog said: Liking Gang War, gonna try and find that album today. Hate I got into Thunders so late but better than never I guess. One of my favorites... Greatest sounding guitar riff ever. Stolen from Bad Company apparently. One time Johnny got loaded, cut a gig mid gig and ended up standing on a table getting the audience to shout out riffs and he'd tell em where he stole it from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlsFavoriteRose Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 On 11/13/2016 at 2:12 PM, Len Cnut said: sacrilegious. not to be all precious about this but watch this sudden stream of 'oh i've been into his stuff for YEARS!' comin' out of the woodwork. i hate the idea of biopics, they have an awful sanitising homogenizing effect. what about Sid and Nancy? if that was a biopic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 23 minutes ago, AxlsFavoriteRose said: what about Sid and Nancy? if that was a biopic It was fuckin' awful really. Not very accurate at all. I loved Gary Oldman in it and i like the scenes in New York, the mood of them, it was really grim, kinda touched upon showing junkiedom for what it was...generally though, in terms of doing the subject justice I didn't think much of it at all. Same with The Doors film, Val Kilmer was great and some scenes were great as a work of fiction but i don't think it did Jim or The Doors or the story much justice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlsFavoriteRose Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Just now, Len Cnut said: It was fuckin' awful really. Not very accurate at all. I loved Gary Oldman in it and i like the scenes in New York, the mood of them, it was really grim, kinda touched upon showing junkiedom for what it was...generally though, in terms of doing the subject justice I didn't think much of it at all. Same with The Doors film, Val Kilmer was great and some scenes were great as a work of fiction but i don't think it did Jim or The Doors or the story much justice. yeah Gary Oldman was awesome. he usually is. i kinda hated Chloe Webb. The Doors at least had young, hot Val Kilmer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 24 minutes ago, AxlsFavoriteRose said: yeah Gary Oldman was awesome. he usually is. i kinda hated Chloe Webb. The Doors at least had young, hot Val Kilmer... Chloe Webbs annoying but so was Nancy Spungen so it kinda fit. I just thought that riding off in a taxi heaven bit was unnecessarily cheesy and kinda not reflective of how the two ended up...at all. I mean it obviously wasn't, they died but i mean as a cinematic technique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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