Mendez Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 (edited) 15 minutes ago, AlexC said: But... AC/DC though. When? At the end of the post Edited November 18, 2016 by Mendez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexC Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 7 minutes ago, Mendez said: At the end of the post I wish I'd seen your edit before having to read a tonne of shit haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendez Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 (edited) 4 hours ago, AlexC said: I wish I'd seen your edit before having to read a tonne of shit haha. lol that topic was easily the best topic of 2015. Edited November 18, 2016 by Mendez 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, StrangerInThisTown said: To me it seems like he just genuinely believes that voice is good. But everyone who is used to the guns records or even most of their live videos/bootlegs from the glory days (which is almost everyone) will immediately start to think "man what is that?" SCOM and NR and YCBM are the 3 songs I think suffer the most from it. YCBM sounds powerless even though the band is totally killer instrumentally..it could be so much more if Axl started using the secret weapon ACDC rasp on that song. Highlight of the show for sure. Fair enough, I tend to think he believes that voice is "acceptable" and kind of counts on it being low in the mix rather than it being a good one; it's just one he can get away with. I say that because in various spots over the years he's swapped it out for the classic raspy voice only to go back to clean in the next show. Some examples off the top of my head of what I mean: (raspy first verse) (raspy ending, at about 8:10) Axl talked about choosing to sing cleaner in the 2000's and that's fine, but to me there's a big difference between the clean voice of '02-'06 and the weak head voice he's been using since 2011. SCOM, PC, Nov Rain all suffer from the weak head voice the most but it effects everything he uses it on, YCBM, RQ, Estranged, everything. If he can't project the clean voice properly it's time to go classic rasp even if it means shorter shows, or it's time to reinvent his voice again. But the 'head voice' is the reason Slash is carrying the shows now. IMO this is what a standard performance of SCOM should sound like - it's clean, but there's power and it doesn't sound like he loathes every second of it. Edited November 18, 2016 by Gordon Comstock 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexC Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 5 minutes ago, Mendez said: lol that topic was easily the best topic in 2015. It's funny that this Fernando topic came into the conversation, I was only reading the 2008 one yesterday, the one were Axl turns up and starts calling people cunts and stuff. It was amusing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexC Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 13 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said: Fair enough, I tend to think he believes that voice is "acceptable" and kind of counts on it being low in the mix rather than it being a good one; it's just one he can get away with. I say that because in various spots over the years he's swapped it out for the classic raspy voice only to go back to clean in the next show. Some examples off the top of my head of what I mean: (raspy first verse) (raspy ending, at about 8:10) Axl talked about choosing to sing cleaner in the 2000's and that's fine, but to me there's a big difference between the clean voice of '02-'06 and the weak head voice he's been using since 2011. SCOM, PC, Nov Rain all suffer from the weak head voice the most but it effects everything he uses it on, YCBM, RQ, Estranged, everything. If he can't project the clean voice properly it's time to go classic rasp even if it means shorter shows, or it's time to reinvent his voice again. But the 'head voice' is the reason Slash is carrying the shows now. IMO this is what a standard performance of SCOM should sound like - it's clean, but there's power and it doesn't sound like he loathes every second of it. That's exactly how it sounds on the current tour. This troubadour one was just a tad weaker for some reason (broken foot, first show in 2 years, nerves due to reunion etc. who knows?) The falsetto he used for the Vegas shows a week later sounded identical to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, AlexC said: That's exactly how it sounds on the current tour. This troubadour one was just a tad weaker for some reason (broken foot, first show in 2 years, nerves due to reunion etc. who knows?) The falsetto he used for the Vegas shows a week later sounded identical to this. I disagree, but OK. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexC Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 25 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said: Fair enough, I tend to think he believes that voice is "acceptable" and kind of counts on it being low in the mix rather than it being a good one; it's just one he can get away with. I say that because in various spots over the years he's swapped it out for the classic raspy voice only to go back to clean in the next show. Some examples off the top of my head of what I mean: (raspy first verse) (raspy ending, at about 8:10) Axl talked about choosing to sing cleaner in the 2000's and that's fine, but to me there's a big difference between the clean voice of '02-'06 and the weak head voice he's been using since 2011. SCOM, PC, Nov Rain all suffer from the weak head voice the most but it effects everything he uses it on, YCBM, RQ, Estranged, everything. If he can't project the clean voice properly it's time to go classic rasp even if it means shorter shows, or it's time to reinvent his voice again. But the 'head voice' is the reason Slash is carrying the shows now. IMO this is what a standard performance of SCOM should sound like - it's clean, but there's power and it doesn't sound like he loathes every second of it. I'd forgotten how douchey Ashba is. I do not miss that era haha. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GN'R Forever Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 I've seen guns twice on their reunion tour. One in Vegas and one in Philly. Axl sounds phenomenal. Even when he uses his clean voice, his notes are full and sustained when you compare it to the early 00s. He does sound pretty bad in the video in this thread but overall id give him much more credit than flack. That's not even mentioning his unreal AC/DC voice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikki_Sixx Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 10 hours ago, AlexC said: So you're saying that he doesn't sound good on AC/DC material? Sounds like you're the one in denial. I haven't said anything about Axl/Dc in this thread. I saw Axl/Dc in May. I know how he sounded there. In fact I've been complaining about the difference in his performance ever since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Jay Posted November 19, 2016 Author Share Posted November 19, 2016 On 17/11/2016 at 10:09 PM, moreblack said: Ouch, don't listen to this, and the album version back to back. Slash's tone is top notch though. Very powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 On 11/17/2016 at 11:45 AM, StrangerInThisTown said: I get the feeling if he originally sung with that voice GNR wouldnt even have got signed, it sounds less rock n roll than even Myles high nasally voice. exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucasnesposito Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 There is no solution, just remove it from the setlist, and sing the ones that go well with them like Brownstone. But it's impossible, it's as if Maiden does not sing The Number Of The Beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterNo Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 (edited) the original SCOM video from theTroubadour... Is Axl chewing a gum at aprox 01:13? About Axl's voice... I think it has changed over the years. But more then that, I think he doesn't enjoy singing certain songs anymore, so he doesn't even try enough. He sounds better with AC/DC, he obviously enjoys doing their stuff. Edited November 19, 2016 by MisterNo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDemocracyRose Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 If Axl will continue to sing SCOM he should sing like this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanecrescente Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 With all due respect to the Axe Man, he sounds as flat as Alice in Step Brothers when the family cover it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxpax Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 On 16.11.2016 at 10:31 AM, F*ck Fear said: That performance was hard to listen to. I hope this never sees an official release because it sounds better on the Vegas 2012 dvd. Even Slash sounded terrible. A release from the stadium tour would be WAY better. No, Slash sounded good. But not as dynamic as in the golden era. They simply got old. But Axl was the weakest part of this performance. That outfit was as horrible as the April O' Neill banana rainrobe thing.... It could have been magic with Steven /Matt/Gilby/Izzy. But this semi reunion here is forgetable.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Jay Posted November 20, 2016 Author Share Posted November 20, 2016 8 hours ago, maxpax said: It could have been magic with Steven /Matt/Gilby/Izzy. But this semi reunion here is forgetable.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-p-d-a Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 i want this blu ray, please release that on disc on christmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 (edited) The mix on that video is mono thats why the mix sounds shit house Edited December 4, 2016 by Gibbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikosgnr Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 (edited) Didn't find anything about this.. So.... WE WANT THE FCKN BLU-RAY NOW PEOPLE. Edited January 8, 2017 by nikosgnr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Jay Posted January 8, 2017 Author Share Posted January 8, 2017 Old. I was the one who found it sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obsession Of Vanity Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Gotta say, sounds like shit. Sweet Child hasn't been watchable in like 20 years, outside of a few instances. (LA 2006, St Petersberg 2010) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikosgnr Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 1 minute ago, Silent Jay said: Old. I was the one who found it sorry. It's not a contest. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Jay Posted January 8, 2017 Author Share Posted January 8, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, nikosgnr said: It's not a contest. Sorry. Well since you didn't find anything about this, I'm just showing you there's also my thread Edited January 8, 2017 by Silent Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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