Billsfan Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Idk but honestly it's been my motivation to doing cardio at the gym. I'll do a half n hour on the bike and another on a treadmill and I can play that album everyday, and it never gets old. I'm always motivated and tend to finish my workouts when I listen to gnr. I typically always have to listen to nightrain for mcbob, it's so easy and jungle at the very least though. Helps me mentally picture the original 5 on stage on what they would look and sound like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 (edited) I like the album a lot however it is very flawed. First off, the mastering is horrible and there is clipping everywhere. Secondly, even though Axl sounds great with his late 90's voice I wonder why they couldn't have just picked performances that were decent enough vocally to not have any re-recording done. They recorded every show so I don't see why not I also would have loved more Steven-era performances. From the top of my head the only songs featured from that era were OTGM, You're Crazy, and UTLH. Why not include a better version of Jungle from 1987-1988? Same with Nightrain, My Michelle, Brownstone, etc. And there is also a lot of recordings that were taken and edited from the Tokyo show that is on DVD. Edited December 1, 2016 by WhazUp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swedish Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 I like Live Era a lot but I do feel like the re-recorded vocals hurt the album, most of the actual performances of the songs sounds a lot better to my ears. I love Yesterdays, It's Alright and Nightrain on it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyRose Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Is it just accepted that the vocals were re-recorded? I've never noticed on my own. Is there actual proof? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xBrownstonex Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 2 minutes ago, PhillyRose said: Is it just accepted that the vocals were re-recorded? I've never noticed on my own. Is there actual proof? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swedish Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, PhillyRose said: Is it just accepted that the vocals were re-recorded? I've never noticed on my own. Is there actual proof? It's pretty obvious if you compare the Live Era version of for example My Michelle with the actual version that was recorded in Wembley 1991. Axl voice is also vastly different on the re-recorded sections then on the not re-recorded ones, he's got the more clean CD voice on the re-recordings and the early 90s rasp on the actual recordings. Edited December 1, 2016 by youngswedishvinyl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Nightingale Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 18 hours ago, EvH said: Instrumentally superb but remember the vocals have been re recorded in the studio. I think the vocals on Estranged are actually the original 1991. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think all the vocals were redone for Live Era. A track by track listing of what was done would be handy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay410 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 I didn't mind the sound at all. It's a great way to listen to the old songs with modern sounding production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 14 hours ago, sidman69 said: wish i could play it at parties, wife always puts on belle and sebastian or pop music, no GNR for friends... have you tried this? maybe wife lets you play this (actual live and somewhat easy-listening) gnr music at your next party if she still doesnt let you you should definetely try this and if she still doesnt let you you can always try divorce hahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 2 hours ago, Ric Nightingale said: I think the vocals on Estranged are actually the original 1991. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think all the vocals were redone for Live Era. A track by track listing of what was done would be handy though. i find the 1987-1991 SDB bootlegs to be very handy whenever i think about listening to live GNR they never ever let me down 3 hours ago, PhillyRose said: Is it just accepted that the vocals were re-recorded? I've never noticed on my own. Is there actual proof? you could use listening to some gnr boots for some gnr live music enjoyment there is a risk though you might not wanna go back to fake-era after listening to the boot-goodies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvH Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 (edited) 4 hours ago, Ric Nightingale said: I think the vocals on Estranged are actually the original 1991. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think all the vocals were redone for Live Era. A track by track listing of what was done would be handy though. They have been redone. Estranged was taken from one of the 1992 Tokyo Dome concerts. You can hear the original vocals on the Vhs/LD/DVD release. No instrumental overdubs, though. It's true that not all vocals were redone on the album. I'm pretty sure such a list has been compiled considering that we have discussed this album countless times before... Edited December 1, 2016 by EvH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitha_whiskey Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 My favorite part is the Axl "not to be an asshole" rant. Always have been surprised Axl allowed that to be on there. Where/ when was that from again? I saw it debated somewhere in here before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Dog Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 I always liked this one.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyRose Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 14 hours ago, ludurigan said: i find the 1987-1991 SDB bootlegs to be very handy whenever i think about listening to live GNR they never ever let me down you could use listening to some gnr boots for some gnr live music enjoyment there is a risk though you might not wanna go back to fake-era after listening to the boot-goodies I usually only listen to live, whatever I can find on Youtube (which has quite the selection) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendez Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 On 12/1/2016 at 8:03 PM, NicDwolfwood said: Its a hit and miss live album. The fact alot of the vocals were re-recorded and its obvious is a drawback. but there are good versions of songs on there. Crazy, Estranged, Dust N Bones, KOHD, and RQ are some of my personal favorites. The only rerecorded song I like this is You Could Be Mine. I personally think e sounds great on the rerecorded part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris 55 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 14 hours ago, ludurigan said: have you tried this? I've said it before and I'll say it again: that is the WORST camera angle ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 10 hours ago, PhillyRose said: I usually only listen to live, whatever I can find on Youtube (which has quite the selection) i suggest you to get some original silver disk CDs, the quality is like 18 times better than on youtube! 10 hours ago, Chris 55 said: I've said it before and I'll say it again: that is the WORST camera angle ever yes it is. the worst camera angle for the best acoustic live set ever recorded on the history of mankind 18 hours ago, Fitha_whiskey said: My favorite part is the Axl "not to be an asshole" rant. Always have been surprised Axl allowed that to be on there. Where/ when was that from again? I saw it debated somewhere in here before. its likely fake and recorded on studio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good, Fuck'n, Night. Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 I personally love the album & the fact it has been doctored changes that not one bit. It's the GnR album I listen to the most, I enjoy all of it & its one of the few CDs I can just push play & enjoy the whole lot, both disks. As has been said it gives an idea of what modern production adds to their sound. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DieselDaisy Posted December 2, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2016 Awful. Pro-tooled wretched mess of an album. The only good thing is 'Dust N' Bones' and the front cover, with the flyers. The ironic thing is they could have just plonked any random show on two discs with no re-recording and it would have been vastly superior. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfAGun Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 22 hours ago, DieselDaisy said: Awful. Pro-tooled wretched mess of an album. The only good thing is 'Dust N' Bones' and the front cover, with the flyers. The ironic thing is they could have just plonked any random show on two discs with no re-recording and it would have been vastly superior. I have never understood the re-recorded vocals; surely out of 200 odd shows, all recorded from the desk, there must have been some good vocals takes of the tracks on these discs? For my money, a properly mixed version of the Paris 1992 show would have summed up the GN'R live experience and would have made a great live album. Granted, it does not reflect the appetite days, but neither does this frankenstien semi live effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 10 minutes ago, SoundOfAGun said: I have never understood the re-recorded vocals; surely out of 200 odd shows, all recorded from the desk, there must have been some good vocals takes of the tracks on these discs? I think the fact that they used so many songs from the Tokyo DVD's shows they had no interest in actually mining out the best versions of songs, more like a "here's 10 good concerts, let's make a live album out of them" mentality. Maybe Axl re-did the vocals so the cleaner tone wouldn't be as shocking when he made his comeback? (Nightrain, My Michelle etc. are 100% CD-era Axl). Who knows though. I like a majority of the album, but I can't listen to certain songs because they just piss me off... Estranged for example, it's the same version from Tokyo but with new vocals pasted on top. Which would be fine if I hadn't already grown to like the Tokyo version before I heard the Live Era version. Now whenever I hear it I just think of how much better the DVD version is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Słash Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 On December 1, 2016 at 3:33 PM, PhillyRose said: Is it just accepted that the vocals were re-recorded? I've never noticed on my own. Is there actual proof? They sound pretty obvious on Mr. Brownstone. Yeah it has been said by members or Engineers or Del James that some of the vocals were re recoded. Even some of the instruments were Polished/Added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 1 hour ago, Slash787 said: They sound pretty obvious on Mr. Brownstone. Yeah it has been said by members or Engineers or Del James that some of the vocals were re recoded. Even some of the instruments were Polished/Added. Or in the case of Rocket Queen, removed completely 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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