Popular Post RussTCB Posted November 30, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2016 http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/5-things-guns-n-roses-should-do-on-their-2017-tour-w452793 5 Things Guns N' Roses Should Do on Their 2017 Tour Mix up the set list, minimize the instrumental breaks, bring back Izzy and more Guns N' Roses are almost certainly heading back to North America in 2017, and here are five ways they can make the shows even better than in 2016. By Andy Greene 6 hours ago There's been no official announcement, though all signs are pointing to Guns N' Roses coming back to North America in 2017. We aren't just talking about metaphorical signs. There are actual billboards in cities they skipped this year, like Montreal, teasing another tour. They already have 2017 dates booked in Japan, New Zealand, Australia, Singapore, Thailand and Dubai that run though March 3rd. The band has yet to touch down in Europe since reuniting, so it's unclear when exactly the North American shows are going to happen, but they seem like a certainty. The 2016 leg of the Not in This Lifetime tour was a triumph in many ways, and not just because Slash and Axl managed to peacefully coexist on a stage without any signs of turbulence. (The fact that the tour grossed over $114 million may have something to do with that.) Not only did Axl sound better than he has in years, but he showed up on time every night and actually seemed to enjoy himself. Slash breathed new life into the Chinese Democracy songs and the old members and new members meshed better than many expected. All that said, there are ways the shows could be even better. We know Axl Rose loves nothing better than being told what to do, particularly by the press, but here are some suggestions. 1. Eliminate some of the instrumentals and covers. The show is great whenever Axl is onstage, but every few songs he seems to wander off while the band plays covers like "Wish You Were Here," "Attitude" and the theme from The Godfather. This goes all the way back to the Use Your Illusion tours of 1992-93. The pauses allow Axl to change outfits and catch his breath, but they also really kill the momentum. He managed to get through the AC/DC tour without constantly walking offstage. Maybe Axl should shorten the gigs a little bit, run around a little less and spend a little less time backstage. 2. Change around the set list. Guns N' Roses don't have a huge catalog, especially since they aren't going to play more than three or four Chinese Democracy tunes and six Use Your Illusionsongs each night. Eliminate songs like "Get in the Ring" and "One in a Million" that'll simply never get played for obvious reasons and you have a small pool of songs to draw from. That doesn't mean the band has to play the same songs in the same order each night. Right now, the only real drama comes at the beginning of the encore when they pick between "Patience" and "Don't Cry." It's so predictable that fans know Slash will always play a tiny bit of "Voodoo Child" every night at the end of "Civil War." How about mixing it up a bit so we don't always know what's coming next? Maybe open with "Welcome to the Jungle" and do "It's So Easy" a little later. Why not do something crazy and open with "November Rain" and throw everyone off balance. Concerts aren't Broadway shows. There should be some element of surprise. 3. Utilize Steven Adler more. Nobody expects Steven Adler to stay behind the kit for the entire show and handle complex tunes like "You Could Be Mine." Frank Ferrer is a stellar drummer and an integral part of the band. But as long as Axl is willing to let Adler onstage, it shouldn't just be for one song every few months. The dude recently flew down to Buenos Aires to play a single song at one show. That's a lot of travel time for a four-minute song. The Rolling Stones gave Mick Taylor a lot more than that. How about letting Adler play a couple more Appetite for Destruction songs? He's quite capable of handling them. 4. Celebrate Appetite's anniversary. July 21st, 2017, will mark the 30th anniversary of Appetite for Destruction. Most of the songs are in the regular rotation. One night, perhaps even on the exact anniversary, why not reward the fans by playing the whole thing in sequence? It shouldn't be that hard to rehearse "Think About You," "Anything Goes" and "You're Crazy." Only "Anything Goes" hasn't been done since the Eighties. The others were played in the 2000s. A full-album run-through would totally re-shuffle the show, but it would be a lot of fun. 5. Bring back Izzy. This is a big one, and we know it is unlikely. As an original member, Izzy would want an equal share of the money, but his presence wouldn't bring in that much extra cash. That would mean Axl, Slash and Duff would have to give up some of their earnings. This tour is already a very efficient machine. Rehearsing Izzy would take a lot of work, especially if his return would mean the departure of Richard Fortus. Also, Izzy isn't exactly the world's most dependable guy and hasn't been on a real tour since 1992. There's too much money at stake to risk losing a show because Izzy rode off into the desert one night and didn't make the next gig. All of that said, Izzy is a key part of this band and it would be wonderful if he came back in some fashion, even for just a song or two. The ultimate dream, of course, is a show with the classic five-man lineup and no others, but that remains very, very hard to imagine. Of course, a tour with Axl and Slash seemed impossible just a couple of years ago, so we suppose anything is possible. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EricA Posted November 30, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2016 LOL rolling stone has found out about copy and paste (like alt nation do) the whole thing sounds like a wish list from most of the forum users here 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiraMPD Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 They missed the most important things... Write a new song Play said new song during the gigs That is all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BorderlineCrazy Posted November 30, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2016 43 minutes ago, RussTCB said: Nobody expects Steven Adler to stay behind the kit for the entire show and handle complex tunes like "You Could Be Mine." 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cqleonardo Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 why people love izzy so much on stage, i just dont get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Absolutely spot on! Add in that they could add a new song in anlld you have a total winner. It is pretty bad when RS is writing this sort of stuff though, but they are alp valid and fair points! Even the Izzy bit is thought out, he isn't 100% reliable but yes it would be nice to see him play a song or two. What really happens - same list, business as usual, and fingers crossed Axl calls them out during Double jive or the motherload and we get, get in the ring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane M. Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Oh great, telling Axl what to do. Now that's exactly what he won't allow, never. Thanks a lot Rolling Stone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Cavalerra Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 How come he wrote 5 long ass point but forgot to write the most important thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Agreed completely with that list 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoForJMark Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Number 1 should be, one word, starts with an S ends with an R, S_____R LITHE 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 If you think about it,3,4, and 5 could have been combined into 1 so that was probably a stretch, but I would add release some new music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMAC20 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 number 1 - will never be eliminated - SLASH has been the show since day 1 - I love the instrumentals - been going since the band got together - what is a GNR show without Slash ripping away on the Les Paul - I wish he would play more 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Finally a major publication delivers our message way to go, RS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 The guy was way off on number one and a few other random facts.. But I am down with 2 through 5... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted December 1, 2016 Author Share Posted December 1, 2016 6 minutes ago, killuridols said: Finally a major publication delivers our message way to go, RS! Who's message? Lol. A lot of this is way off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuriousStyles Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 4 hours ago, RussTCB said: Frank Ferrer is a stellar drummer and an integral part of the band. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 20 minutes ago, RussTCB said: Who's message? Lol. A lot of this is way off. the fans message... Lots of people here and in other parts of the Internet want to see some of those changes so I don't know how it can be "way off". Probably because a journalist wrote it? now that is lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgnr Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 1- No. Slash is The Godfather theme. Not going anywhere!! 2- Yeah! Play Dead Horse or Pretty Tied Up. Drop The Zicaa. And we'll be just fine!! 3- Fuckin YES!! He's more than capable! Bring him back!! #TheSmilesAllAroundTour 4- Go, go, go 5- No! Yes, Yes, Yes! Wherever you are, leave you avocados, drone racing, twitter and come back...YOU ARE MISSED #TheSplitTheLootEquallyTour 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted December 1, 2016 Author Share Posted December 1, 2016 36 minutes ago, killuridols said: the fans message... Lots of people here and in other parts of the Internet want to see some of those changes so I don't know how it can be "way off". Probably because a journalist wrote it? now that is lol. Because a journalist wrote it? Huh? No, a lot of it is way off because it's just not based in any sort of fact. Take for example that GNR opened with Jungle for over a decade, so there's no need to suggest it as if it's never been done. Then there's the remarks about how Steven couldn't play YCBM when there's video proof of that happening. Then there's the thing where many fans enjoy things like Slash playing Voodoo after CW. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BorderlineCrazy Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Slash playing Voodoo Child must last half a minute as much, how could that be a problem?! About the Appetite anniversary, an album as amazing as this one deserves to be celebrated but as much as I love all the songs on it, I much rather have Steven and Izzy on stage than have the other 3 playing Anything Goes or You're Crazy (let alone Think About You without Izzy). To have the only five guys in the world who could make this album happen together on stage, that would be the proper celebration IMO! To me, Steven, Izzy and new songs are the only important things. Then, there are some details that could be cool but aren't really determinant. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 46 minutes ago, RussTCB said: Because a journalist wrote it? Huh? No, a lot of it is way off because it's just not based in any sort of fact. Take for example that GNR opened with Jungle for over a decade, so there's no need to suggest it as if it's never been done. Then there's the remarks about how Steven couldn't play YCBM when there's video proof of that happening. Then there's the thing where many fans enjoy things like Slash playing Voodoo after CW. Why do you need facts when all of it is based on opinion? "We know Axl Rose loves nothing better than being told what to do, particularly by the press, but here are some suggestions." That line is anticipating the tone of the article and how it should be taken, read and handled. - You mention the WTTJ thing and you are correct about that but in my case, from that paragraph, it was the Nov Rain suggestion what called my attention. Not because I think they should open with that one but I get what the guy means: play with the surprise factor a bit more, don't make it so predictable. - I guess a lot of people may enjoy Slash playing the Voodoo stuff.... but others maybe do not?? His point of it being predictable it is made and I think the same goes for The Godfather and the Layla bit. I am particularly bored with that and all the long ass solos and all the covers. It'd be really nice to listen to other songs and maybe new covers. - About Steven playing YCBM.... yeah, sounds a bit mean but again, he has a point when he says Steven should be allowed to play more songs in the show, so in the end he's not that way off from what fans want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonok Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 13 hours ago, Jane M. said: Oh great, telling Axl what to do. Now that's exactly what he won't allow, never. Thanks a lot Rolling Stone. Oh, he might allow it, just 20 years of fuming + a negative bank account later. 11 hours ago, TMAC20 said: number 1 - will never be eliminated - SLASH has been the show since day 1 - I love the instrumentals - been going since the band got together - what is a GNR show without Slash ripping away on the Les Paul - I wish he would play more Yeah we all want to hear Slash play the shit out of that Les Paul, but think about it - wouldn't you prefer if he played the shit out of said Les Paul on a new song instead of Layla? 13 hours ago, cqleonardo said: why people love izzy so much on stage, i just dont get it They don't love him on stage, they just want him in the band. Because GNR fans can never be 100% satisfied. I personally don't want him to play with them as much as I want him to get in the studio with them, since it's his songwriting that he's renowned for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 16 hours ago, KiraMPD said: They missed the most important things... Write a new song Play said new song during the gigs That is all. This times 1,000. Except I would go a little further. These guys could easily work out three songs together. They are spending months and months on the road. Let Duff and Slash pick the three remaining CD2 songs they like the best. General, checkmate, Soulmonster - whatever they might be. Incorporate those six songs into the setlist. Rotate two of them into every show. **** And yes. More Izzy and Adler. Less instrumentals and covers. And mix up the set list with some lessor played songs. Axl,Slash and Duff are still going to split 2 million bucks a show. Why not show the fans you've got some creativity left and that this isn't just a paint-by-numbers tour to fill the retirement accounts? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 1 hour ago, nonok said: Because GNR fans can never be 100% satisfied. Not necessarily true! Release three albums on iTunes in time for Christmas. CD2, CD3 and remix album. Clear out the vault. Release regrouping album in early 2017. Hopefully Izzy will write a couple songs with them. Summer of 2017, release an ACDC album with Axl in vocals. Do that an I will retire from the forums and be the happiest GnR fan in the world. 100% happy. I won't care if they then go back into cash-making-mode by bastardizing the GnR name on every product imaginable ala Kiss. Watches, pictures books, action figures, video games, caskets, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsinindy Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 38 minutes ago, Apollo said: Why not show the fans you've got some creativity left and that this isn't just a paint-by-numbers tour to fill the retirement accounts? Because that's exactly what it is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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