Gackt Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Just now, WhazUp said: And there is only President-elect who made a statement that Obama founded Isis and started the crazy birther thing lol. Right or left, it doesn't matter - we are all fucked so let's crank up some GNR and party Knowing that the US funded and armed rebels which led to ISIS rising in power..he's not wrong reactionaries are currently in the bargaining stage of grief, only two stages to go before acceptance at least 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertrice Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Trump was right to call out Axl for his R and R hall of fame no show and Axl must have heard it. GNR has never been a political band and I blame Del James for this stunt. If mexicans don't like OUR PRESIDENT they can stay in mexico. but to go one foreign soil and do this is beyond me. pretty fucked up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanG Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, Bertrice said: Trump was right to call out Axl for his R and R hall of fame no show and Axl must have heard it. GNR has never been a political band and I blame Del James for this stunt. If mexicans don't like OUR PRESIDENT they can stay in mexico. but to go one foreign soil and do this is beyond me. pretty fucked up. It's the other way around, YOUR president doesn't like Mexicans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Bertrice said: Trump was right to call out Axl for his R and R hall of fame no show and Axl must have heard it. GNR has never been a political band and I blame Del James for this stunt. If mexicans don't like OUR PRESIDENT they can stay in mexico. but to go one foreign soil and do this is beyond me. pretty fucked up. Almost as fucked up as talking about building a huge ass wall and making that "foreign soil" pay for it. Almost... Edited December 2, 2016 by WhazUp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gackt Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 1 minute ago, EvanG said: It's the other way around, YOUR president doesn't like Mexicans. Mexicans are fine, it's the illegal aliens who are lootin', shootin' and rapin' that we're concerned about 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertrice Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, Oldest Goat said: I'm from New Zealand. We're an ally of your country, just like Mexico. On behalf of our people; shut the fuck up. P.S. Fuck your President lol. Fuck your couch n***a! no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 As the Dems said back in '08- time to move on dot org. I come here for Guns n Roses. Let's all hope (no matter your side) that Axl doesn't pull a Bono or Jovi or Bruce and get all political. Just "shut up and sing" ...........please! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mascadcar Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 1 minute ago, WhazUp said: Almost as fucked up as talking about building a huge ass wall and making said country you call "foreign soil" pay for it lol. Almost... What is wrong with wanting a wall that will help keep illegal immigrants and drugs out? Do you think there should be open borders? You have no idea how much heroin flows across that border. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendestroi95 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 7 minutes ago, Bertrice said: If mexicans don't like OUR PRESIDENT they can stay in mexico. i have to admit, that's spot the fuck on 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 30 minutes ago, PsychoKiss344 said: A lot of people are overreacting about all of this....its a fucking pinata. Think about what some metal bands have been doing with t shirts...... On that shirt should have been heads of the US administrations of the last 70 years as they caused walls of deaths around the world. Trump is not one of them yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertrice Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 5 minutes ago, EvanG said: It's the other way around, YOUR president doesn't like Mexicans. the mexicans at the show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Mascadcar said: What is wrong with wanting a wall that will help keep illegal immigrants and drugs out? Do you think there should be open borders? You have no idea how much heroin flows across that border. I just take into account the potential effectiveness of it from everything I have seen/read/analyzed, the costs both financially and nationally in terms of foreign affairs, and many many more factors not excluding the effects on innocent bystanders. And I have come to the conclusion on it: bad idea Edited December 2, 2016 by WhazUp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertrice Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 7 minutes ago, WhazUp said: Almost as fucked up as talking about building a huge ass wall and making that "foreign soil" pay for it. Almost... we already have a "wall" . Its called a border and most countries have them. But to demonstrate to mexicans in Mexico is just lame and pandering. And Mexico is a great country with good things going on. Its not a birthright to immigrant to the USA . So nobody ever told you babyHow it was gonna be 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post highvoltage Posted December 2, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2016 This thread is hilarious. To the outraged "imagine if it was Hillary or Obama, you'd all be reacting differently" crowd - Imagine if Hillary or Obama had said all those horrible things Donald Trump has said about Mexican people? What's any less appropriate about this? It's not "inciting violence", it's a freaking pinata. It was a gesture of solidarity with the Mexican fanbase and in my eyes, entirely appropriate given the commentary those people have had to endure for the past 12-18 months. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 "...........they make no sense to me.....they come to my county and ........"........ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gackt Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 4 minutes ago, WhazUp said: I just take into account the potential effectiveness of it from everything I have seen/read/analyzed, the costs both financially and nationally in terms of foreign affairs, and many many more factors not excluding the effects on innocent bystanders. And I have come to the conclusion on it: bad idea Mexico's paying for the wall and they're happy to do it, all is well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertrice Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 1 minute ago, Oldest Goat said: You already have a border and a bigger wall won't prevent illegal immigrants. The hateful, fear mongering and scapegoating of Trump and his building a wall rhetoric bullshit is far, far more serious and damaging than "just lame and pandering." at a rock show. You fucking cartoon. This is why no one ever asks New Zealand's opinion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mascadcar Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 13 minutes ago, highvoltage said: This thread is hilarious. To the outraged "imagine if it was Hillary or Obama, you'd all be reacting differently" crowd - Imagine if Hillary or Obama had said all those horrible things Donald Trump has said about Mexican people? What's any less appropriate about this? It's not "inciting violence", it's a freaking pinata. It was a gesture of solidarity with the Mexican fanbase and in my eyes, entirely appropriate given the commentary those people have had to endure for the past 12-18 months. What did he say that was so terrible? He said some coming across the border were good people, but a lot were bad. Oh...the horror! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modano09 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 1 minute ago, Mascadcar said: What did he say that was so terrible? He said some coming across the border were good people, but a lot were bad. Oh...the horror! He said they were rapists and criminals. Then added that some of them are good people, he assumes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gackt Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 1 minute ago, Modano09 said: He said they were rapists and criminals. Then added that some of them are good people, he assumes. Quote When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. And now they are beating us economically. They are not our friend, believe me. But they’re killing us economically. The U.S. has become a dumping ground for everybody else’s problems. Thank you. It’s true, and these are the best and the finest. When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting. And it only makes common sense. It only makes common sense. They’re sending us not the right people. It’s coming from more than Mexico. It’s coming from all over South and Latin America, and it’s coming probably— probably— from the Middle East. But we don’t know. Because we have no protection and we have no competence, we don’t know what’s happening. And it’s got to stop and it’s got to stop fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane M. Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 45 minutes ago, Bertrice said: If mexicans don't like OUR PRESIDENT they can stay in mexico. US citizens W. Axl Rose, Michael McKagan, Saul Hudson and Adalberto James Miranda don't like him either, should they stay in Mexico too or not? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertrice Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 1 minute ago, Jane M. said: US citizens W. Axl Rose, Michael McKagan, Saul Hudson and Adalberto James Miranda don't like him either, should they stay in Mexico too or not? sure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 38 minutes ago, Original said: "...........they make no sense to me.....they come to my county and ........"........ "they come to my country tell us that he is planning on building a fucking wall, and is gonna make us pay for it lol" Just thought I'd finish that thought for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicDwolfwood Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 1 hour ago, Gackt said: Just imagine living life with this level of passive aggression lol The act was an embarrassment for the band and for the people who paid to watch them dick around with a pinata, if Team Brazil aren't cowards they should try this PR stunt for their U.S. dates It wouldnt make a whole lot of sense, as Piñata's arent an american thing. 1 hour ago, PsychoKiss344 said: this is much fucking worse than Del James and a few fans beating a Trump Piñata. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 49 minutes ago, highvoltage said: This thread is hilarious. To the outraged "imagine if it was Hillary or Obama, you'd all be reacting differently" crowd - Imagine if Hillary or Obama had said all those horrible things Donald Trump has said about Mexican people? What's any less appropriate about this? It's not "inciting violence", it's a freaking pinata. It was a gesture of solidarity with the Mexican fanbase and in my eyes, entirely appropriate given the commentary those people have had to endure for the past 12-18 months. People love to act outraged nowadays. It was an innocent joke, as the band members were grinning and laughing the whole time. Not everything has to be so serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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