Jordan Rose Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 1 hour ago, IncitingChaos said: A lot of the positive reviews might have less to do with vocals and more to do with his attitude on timing. But I'm sure Axl knows he doesn't sound good on alot of the songs...it probably bothers him quite a bit. With the reviews you have attitude, timing, crowd, spectacle, history, exceeded expectations etc and as far as vocals go even the weak falsetto sounds alright blasted across a stadium. I bet 99.9% of the people there don't even understand that it's falsetto. As for what he thinks about it, it's a bit of a mystery because whenever he's talked about it he comes off as if he hasn't a clue what people are on about. e.g. that Ireland show a few years back when he said (paraphrasing "Someone said to me 'Why I love that song SoD but why don't you sing the end in your excellent raspy voice anymore?' and I was just like, wtf?!" as if he didn't understand what they were saying. The thing for me has always been that he performs completely differently when he's prepared and giving 100%. And once again, 2006-10 are when he came out looking and acting and performing like badass 1992 Axl whilst giving 100% vocally. AS much as he's smiling and running around and having fun right now, it's a totally different thing to those 2010 shows, or even the first Hammerstein show where he's fully aware that he absolutely owning his shit. I'm cool with what he's currently doing assuming that in the future he's going to use some of the voice he's banking now to tour and give 100% to new songs. If he just saves it for AC/DC and this is all we get with Guns until he retires i'll be hot about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSoftie Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 That vintage intro... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lenni19 Posted June 23, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2017 Hey people, here is my review of the show First of all we had a long drive to get to hannover, about 6h and 15m. When we arrived the floor in front of the stage was fucking packed with people. We found our places pretty fast and the show was about the beging, guns opend the show with easy after that we had brownstone and chinese. Slash was starting the hit the first notes for jungle, but than that, someone from the crew stept on stage and told us: becouse of the upcoming rain we need to stop the show for about 30min. So the band went off stage and the people watching the show were pretty fucking pisst, including me. So 5min later the rain was truly coming our way, most of the people were leaving there spot to get there asses in the hall to stay dry, but not me, i was outside the whole time becouse i had fear to lose my spot. So the rain was coming and i was compleatly lost in the rain, the rain were lasting for about 15 to 20min. I was frozing my ass off but fuck it, i was there to rock and not to complain. After nearly two houers guns restarted the show with wttj, it was awsome axl was screaming from the top of his lungs and so was i. Every song they played was just perfect, but what was i seeing there on stage, right it was angus fucking young he joind guns to play rosie and riff raff. When i heard the first notes fro you could be mine i lost it, i know all the people here are complaining about axls voice on it, but not me. I was sreaming so loud and hard with axl i had the feeling of spiting blood. The show was absolutly rocking axl,duff,slash and the rest of the band were in great mood. Anotner one of my favorites was coma, never i a milion years was i just hoping to here that song live but yesterday my dream was coming true and it was pure magic the show was super amazing i was singing along with every single song, so today i cant speak but fuck it that show that band was absolutly worth it after a long ass set list guns finaly played pc and what can i say, it was the perfect ending of an magical night. After the concert ended we were just blown away, i cant wait to see them the next time I hope you people had fun reading my review, anyways i wich you all a happy day 24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AlexC Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Thierry1982 said: Honestly it is what it is, Axl is in his mid 50ties and still sounding great on some songs and hit and miss on others. You guys should be blessed with him in this shape. He sounds incredible when you're there in person, agreed. But videos don't lie and it has nothing to do with age, AC/DC proved that. I thouroughly enjoyed London and could hear when he wasn't using rasp but it sounded good through the PA. It's just effort. He's 70 something shows into this tour now and he's most likely stopped warming up etc. and become complacent. It is what it is, but don't just assume that it's age or whatever because it's obviously not and that gives a false representation of the quality of the band. 1 hour ago, Gavin82 said: Great too see Angus on stage having no doubt he may turn up in Belgium or Holland id say he turns uo 1 or other People still going on about Axl voice he is getting older i dont know why people even compare him too past years TBH it was the same with BJ on the Donnington MOR year he sounded fucking amazing then people still comoare his voice from then too now like when Axls too BJ age he will sound different again Could say the same for The Boss & hes over 70 i believe & even Roger D they all sound different Comparing him to 2016. Not 1992. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 What a great gig motherfuckers! SLASH.WAS.FUCKING.ON.FIRE! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Axl_morris Posted June 23, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2017 22 minutes ago, Free Bird said: What a great gig motherfuckers! SLASH.WAS.FUCKING.ON.FIRE! I hope he's okay 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin82 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Lols lols Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosso Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 2 hours ago, scooby845 said: If I recall correctly, in Costa Rica last year the rain was a lot stronger than here... why they didn't stop it there? That's exactly what I thought. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, Sosso said: That's exactly what I thought. It's the decision of the promoter because he takes the responsibility. Was there thunder and lightning in Costa Rica as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 What a memorable night. Sound was very good and the band gave everything. That was by far the best concert out of the three shows I'd visit during this tour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Dog Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 4 hours ago, nikosgnr said: That's getting better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 The OCD side of me really wants to correct the spelling of Johnny B. Goode in the OP. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRmello77 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Cool setlist as I just saw! and despite the waiting time and delay fans can say they attended a GNR show for 4 or 5 hours any footage of Riff Raff availaible yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunset Gardner Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 1 hour ago, James Bond said: The OCD side of me really wants to correct the spelling of Johnny B. Goode in the OP. ha. i appreciate your ocd. a rock n roll fan spelling johnny b goode wrong is like a Christian spelling Jesus wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosso Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 7 minutes ago, GNRmello77 said: Cool setlist as I just saw! and despite the waiting time and delay fans can say they attended a GNR show for 4 or 5 hours any footage of Riff Raff availaible yet? It was definitely worth the waiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1989 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 15 minutes ago, GNRmello77 said: Cool setlist as I just saw! and despite the waiting time and delay fans can say they attended a GNR show for 4 or 5 hours any footage of Riff Raff availaible yet? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) So the theory is that Axl's clean falsetto sounds good and not mickey at all live (according to the vast majority of people who have attended the shows, including journalists) because it's blasted from the PA across the stadium. I'd think that it'd be quite the opposite: that the louder and clearer a mickey voice would be in the mix, the more annoying it would sound. Or should I assume that Bee Gees wouldn't sound like Bee Gees under the same circumstances? Maybe someone should try and play loud in a stadium the pro shot SCOM from The Troubadour - will Axl sound great? I'm sorry if I'm missing something here - I admit I'm clueless about these things (vocals and sound systems). Edited June 23, 2017 by Blackstar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 1 hour ago, James Bond said: The OCD side of me really wants to correct the spelling of Johnny B. Goode in the OP. In my defense, I copy and pasted it from someone else after they said Slash played it and didn't catch it when I edited it into the set. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 13 minutes ago, Blackstar said: So the theory is that Axl's clean falsetto sounds good and not mickey at all live (according to the vast majority of people who have attended the shows, including journalists) because it's blasted from the PA across the stadium. I'd think that it'd be quite the opposite: that the louder and clearer a mickey voice would be in the mix, the more annoying it would sound. Or should I assume that Bee Gees wouldn't sound like Bee Gees under the same circumstances? Maybe someone should try and play loud in a stadium the pro shot SCOM from The Troubadour - will Axl sound great? I'm sorry if I'm missing something here - I admit I'm clueless about this things (vocals and sound systems). That's completely bullshit that it depends on the volume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 I never understood the loud volume or the YouTube argument. As if an HD video in 2017 magically erases the rasp when the audience videos in 2010 or the 2016 shows came across totally fine. Hardly anybody complained about his voice at all in the 2016 show threads and I don't just mean AC/DC. Then of course there's the old "how can you judge his voice on a YouTube video? He sounds amazing!" which is entirely hypocritical. Obviously everyone is entitled to their own opinion but it seems that the criteria only applies when someone has a different opinion. Certainly any show is going to sound better live at the massive volumes as intended and you'll have a good time regardless, but to pretend that Axl only gets magically off key and "Mickey" in the videos is crazy. It's okay though. There was a Van Halen trainwreck in 2006 or 2007 when the keyboard track for Jump was started in the wrong key so Eddie's guitar as a result was totally out of tune with the backing track and there was someone actually arguing (on YouTube) that the camera/phone/whatever didn't interpret the key correctly and that the performance was fine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 11 minutes ago, Free Bird said: That's completely bullshit that it depends on the volume. Thanks, I thought so (but I couldn't be sure). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, James Bond said: I never understood the loud volume or the YouTube argument. As if an HD video in 2017 magically erases the rasp when the audience videos in 2010 or the 2016 shows came across totally fine. Hardly anybody complained about his voice at all in the 2016 show threads and I don't just mean AC/DC. Then of course there's the old "how can you judge his voice on a YouTube video? He sounds amazing!" which is entirely hypocritical. Obviously everyone is entitled to their own opinion but it seems that the criteria only applies when someone has a different opinion. Certainly any show is going to sound better live at the massive volumes as intended and you'll have a good time regardless, but to pretend that Axl only gets magically off key and "Mickey" in the videos is crazy. It's okay though. There was a Van Halen trainwreck in 2006 or 2007 when the keyboard track for Jump was started in the wrong key so Eddie's guitar as a result was totally out of tune with the backing track and there was someone actually arguing (on YouTube) that the camera/phone/whatever didn't interpret the key correctly and that the performance was fine. I agree that cell phones and youtube can't take away the rasp when it's there and turn it into clean voice/"mickey". However, it's possible that Axl's clean voice indeed sounds good (=not mickey) live but for some reason it doesn't translate well on the recordings, and the reasons don't have to do with the volume. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
default_ Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Blackstar said: So the theory is that Axl's clean falsetto sounds good and not mickey at all live (according to the vast majority of people who have attended the shows, including journalists) because it's blasted from the PA across the stadium. I'd think that it'd be quite the opposite: that the louder and clearer a mickey voice would be in the mix, the more annoying it would sound. Or should I assume that Bee Gees wouldn't sound like Bee Gees under the same circumstances? Maybe someone should try and play loud in a stadium the pro shot SCOM from The Troubadour - will Axl sound great? I'm sorry if I'm missing something here - I admit I'm clueless about these things (vocals and sound systems). This is bulshit. I've seen Axl several times live, including last year, and mickey is still mickey, no matter the volume. Thing is: He has his good moments and overall its an amazing experience, I havent seen anyone that actually attended to gigs complaning, being there is a total different thing, its great, but it doesnt mean Mickey sound good. Edited June 23, 2017 by default_ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) 13 minutes ago, default_ said: This is bulshit. I've seen Axl several times live, including last year, and mickey is still mickey, no matter the volume. Thing is: He has his good moments and overall its an amazing experience, I havent seen anyone that actually attended to gigs complaning, being there is a total different thing, its great, but it doesnt mean Mickey sound good. Yet there have been a lot of people here (who attended the shows) saying that there is no mickey live. I guess it depends on each one's preferences and perception of what is good (Axl) vocals. For some people it's only rasp and "mickey" is a code for clean voice/no rasp, although clean doesn't necessarily equal to mickey (and Axl's clean voice isn't always mickey). Edited June 23, 2017 by Blackstar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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