northernsoul Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Just now, tsinindy said: Minneapolis is doing well....but, think about this. Metallica just sold that same venue with a similar seating arrangement out in 50 minutes last year.... Also for St Louis you're right....all the die hards think, oh man St Louis, no way! I gotta see that one well most of them have already bought their tix. That place has a listed capacity of 66,000, can seat up to 70,000 in certain configurations. If GnR put 35,000 in there if consider that a success, but that'll take some serious discounting on tickets, I think. Didn't Metallica open the stadium though? Probably a big event for locals and I bet it wasn't $300 to sit at the back of the floor. From what the band (Metallica) have said, they haven't toured the states properly in years because there isn't enough of a demand for them to make the $$ they want outside of an album release so they just do the odd event. I think rock acts in general struggle to put bums on seats in the States, maybe this is 10 years too late in both the exposure to Slash and Axl in that time and rock music not really being a big selling thing anymore in general to be packing things out every night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychoKiss344 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 21 minutes ago, tsinindy said: Minneapolis is doing well....but, think about this. Metallica just sold that same venue with a similar seating arrangement out in 50 minutes last year.... Guns have played multiple shows across North America in the past year, this was Metallica's only actual show in NA this year. (Not counting all those club shows) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsinindy Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) 42 minutes ago, northernsoul said: Didn't Metallica open the stadium though? Probably a big event for locals and I bet it wasn't $300 to sit at the back of the floor. From what the band (Metallica) have said, they haven't toured the states properly in years because there isn't enough of a demand for them to make the $$ they want outside of an album release so they just do the odd event. I think rock acts in general struggle to put bums on seats in the States, maybe this is 10 years too late in both the exposure to Slash and Axl in that time and rock music not really being a big selling thing anymore in general to be packing things out every night. Good point on ticket prices, not sure what they were. And, good point on that being a one off show too @PsychoKiss344 But, every indication has it they are doing some sort of tour of the US this summer. Will be interesting to see what that entails exactly. Edited December 12, 2016 by tsinindy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonah Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Tickets prices are definitely hurting them. Over $600 for two good seats is a lot of money. Even The Stones discounted tickets when they realized that people weren't going to shell out $500 per ticket in most markets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl_morris Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) Why are tickets so much more expensive in the US? Edited December 13, 2016 by Axl_morris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsinindy Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 3 hours ago, Axl_morris said: Why are tickets so much more expensive in the US? Because...Ticketmster. I think what we are seeing is GnR are basically on the front end of inflated ticket pricing going forward overall. The Stones may have lead the way, but Ticketmsster is the one setting these prices by and large. For example, Tom Pettys tour just got announced for next summer, prices range from $40 to $150....no way in hell im paying $150 to see Petty and I like Petty, but what? $150 for Petty? That is ludicrous to me, but he'll get it and probably sell out most shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickS77 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 1 hour ago, tsinindy said: Because...Ticketmster. I think what we are seeing is GnR are basically on the front end of inflated ticket pricing going forward overall. The Stones may have lead the way, but Ticketmsster is the one setting these prices by and large. Ticketmaster is not setting the ticketprices. The promoter is setting the Ticketprices. Ticketmaster just sets a hefty handling fee on top of the ticketprices. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Most of the US shows are still 8 to 9 months away...lol. That's an eternity...lol. Most fans aren't die hard fanatics like the people in this forum....a lot of fans have no reason to buy them this early and will be more than happy to get them a week or two before the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsinindy Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, PatrickS77 said: Ticketmaster is not setting the ticketprices. The promoter is setting the Ticketprices. Ticketmaster just sets a hefty handling fee on top of the ticketprices. Ticketmaster is the promoter in the states...so yes lol. Here's proof since I know you're going to argue. This was discussed some time ago, FYI. And before you say it, Ticketmaster owns LiveNation Edited December 13, 2016 by tsinindy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain SK Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 The Regina, Saskatchewan show is around 85% sold out with about 6000 seats remaining of 37700. Our city has a population of about 220K. But we are a hard rock city and this is the first music event announced for our brand new stadium. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 On 12/12/2016 at 0:18 PM, PsychoKiss344 said: Guns have played multiple shows across North America in the past year, this was Metallica's only actual show in NA this year. (Not counting all those club shows) They also had Avenged Sevenfold opening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Maynard James Keenan Posted December 13, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2016 I think part of the problem is that there are many (like myself) that paid full price on the first leg.....and saw tickets be given away in the days leading up to the show in some markets. We know that if the tickets don't sell there is a very good chance that they will offer reductions in ticket prices leading up to the show....the is just no incentive to buy them now. I have been looking at the Buffalo map and the resale prices are ABSOLUTELY HILARIOUS! In many cases there are as good or better tickets available at face value directly from TM. I will put money on it that not ONE resale ticket will be purchased for the Buffalo show unless they go for LESS than face value. Going to wait until July/August and wait for a ticket promotion or to see if the resale tickets are available for a nice low price. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickS77 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, tsinindy said: Ticketmaster is the promoter in the states...so yes lol. Here's proof since I know you're going to argue. This was discussed some time ago, FYI. And before you say it, Ticketmaster owns LiveNation Live Nation owns Ticketmaster. So it is Live Nation, as the promoter, who sets the prices and sells the tickets through it's selfowned ticketselling agent Ticketmaster. Edited December 13, 2016 by PatrickS77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsinindy Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 27 minutes ago, PatrickS77 said: Live Nation owns Ticketmaster. So it is Live Nation, as the promoter, who sets the prices and sells the tickets through it's selfowned ticketselling agent Ticketmaster. Google is your friend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickS77 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, tsinindy said: Google is your friend! I didn't need Google to tell you that Ticketmaster is not responsible for the ticket prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsinindy Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 3 minutes ago, PatrickS77 said: I didn't need Google to tell you that Ticketmaster is not responsible for the ticket prices. Except they are as I've demonstrated, go away blow hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickS77 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) 6 minutes ago, tsinindy said: Except they are as I've demonstrated, go away blow hard. No. They're not. If it would be it would say © 2016 Ticketmaster,Inc, but it doesn't, since Ticketmaster is not the parent company, that is Live Nation. But whatever. I see you still got a fart stuck in your ass. Continue to blame Ticketmaster for all the evil in the world and being pissed that I take issue with "returning" "fans". Edited December 13, 2016 by PatrickS77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsinindy Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 7 minutes ago, PatrickS77 said: No. They're not. If it would be it would say © 2016 Ticketmaster,Inc, but it doesn't, since Ticketmaster is not the parent company, that is Live Nation. But whatever. I see you still got a fart stuck in your ass. Continue to blame Ticketmaster for all the evil in the world and being pissed that I take issue with "returning" "fans". You just aren't very bright. It's ok, and I don't really care who or what you take issue with. That's your problem, not mine. I don't blame ticket master for anything, what the hell? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickS77 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 1 minute ago, tsinindy said: You just aren't very bright. It's ok, and I don't really care who or what you take issue with. That's your problem, not mine. I don't blame ticket master for anything, what the hell? lol Yeah, you don't care. You just get pissed off and offended and rude. But whatever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsinindy Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, PatrickS77 said: Yeah, you don't care. You just get pissed off and offended and rude. But whatever. You seem to have trouble with people telling you you're not right and then respond in this way....so you try to make your problem someone else's....as is evidenced by this thread: you were wrong yet I'm pissed off and offended and rude. I'm not pissed off or offended at all. If you think I'm rude, then ok, but I really don't care. Edited December 13, 2016 by tsinindy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xBrownstonex Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 This is fun 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickS77 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) 16 minutes ago, xBrownstonex said: This is fun Wow. You're deluded. A screenshot which says © Live Nation is proof that Ticketmaster sets ticketprices? How?? In what universe?? 16 minutes ago, xBrownstonex said: This is fun No. It's not. It's boring. And I'm done now. As nothing substantial is being said by this guy. Edited December 13, 2016 by PatrickS77 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderram Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) On 12/12/2016 at 8:02 AM, goneshootin said: I wonder if the choice of cities also plays into it. I think that's part of it. But another part, IMO, is that people are wiser this time around -- especially with the manner in which the distributors release the tickets.. I know I am. If these were arena shows, I'd buy right away. But with the larger stadium shows, I'd wait until much closer to the actual date to purchase. For example, I bought 2 tix for the SF show right when they went on sale. I couldn't get PIT. Whatever PIT they released initially was sold out. I ended up with decent FIELD seats for $250 a piece. About a week before the show, I was able to find PIT had I wanted them. I ended up keeping the seats I had because I didn't want to risk resale. Then, a few days later, my sister committed to going along with my 2 nieces. While PIT was no longer available, I found 3 seats on the FIELD closer than the seats I purchased months earlier. AND they were nearly $50 cheaper per ticket. So, again, I would not purchase right now and would wait. I'm sure a lot of others have figured that out too which I'm certain contributes to the slow sales. Edited December 13, 2016 by thunderram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagles95 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 I believe that announcing a big name supporting act will help fill seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsinindy Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) 20 minutes ago, PatrickS77 said: Wow. You're deluded. A screenshot which says © Live Nation is proof that Ticketmaster sets ticketprices? How?? In what universe?? No. It's not. It's boring. And I'm done now. As nothing substantial is being said by this guy. lol, by your own admission the promoter sets ticket prices. TM/LiveNation are the promoter. They are synonymous, the same thing. Try doing some more googling bro. I was actually referring to you saying I blamed Ticketmster for "all the evil in the world". lol, bc I don't. I don't "blame" them for anything. ill actually help you out: Edited December 13, 2016 by tsinindy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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