Tadsy Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Isn't this the same guy that locked himself in his own cupboard with a bag of Charlie when slash found him when they were trying to record illusions? ? not sure he held anything together lol i don't find anything he said offensive, and I'd still put him in front of frank as far as relevance is concerned to this tour. As far as which era was the greatest, that UYI tour will probably go down as the defining tour of gnr history for so many reasons, as for which era was the greatest that's completely arguable and has been done to death on here previously so no point getting into that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 19 minutes ago, Chris 55 said: No one on this forum was there/alive then so they can't really call bullshit on him What? You don't think there are people here who were alive and well and following Guns n' Roses during Sorum's stint with them? You must be joking. Sorum is entitled to his opinion, but he doesn't explain HOW he held them together. If's it simply that he's a reliable and versatile drummer, those are a dime a dozen. Personally, I prefer Frank Ferrer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liqddynamite Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 “Everything was so much different than what I expected. I thought I was walking into a straight-up rock band, a crossbreed of AC/DC and Aerosmith, mixed with the Sex Pistols and Nazareth. “Along came pianos and these epic 10-minute opuses. I was surprised.” These quotes from this interview exemplify my problem with Sorum, he always wants to bash the ballads, the piano, etc, which he did here. Basically, he wants everyone to know that just in case people think GNR got soft with the UYI albums, that he had nothing to do with it, since he's clearly too much of a bad ass to be on stage with a piano. Come on dude, yes on average AFD was a harder album, but they were also playing Patience at most shows before he was in the band. Besides, what exactly is the problem? Does he also think Zeppelin sold out or went soft with stairway? Thats what always made GNR so great imo, they did the songs they wanted, they were never afraid to show actual human emotion in the lyrics, and they didn't give a fuck about what anyone thought about it, and I'm certain that includes Matt Sorum. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotsfired cro Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 probably right. If you were there a fan during the UYI's you would understand, don't know how many ppl here are or had been... Matt replaced Steve when they needed most, brought in perfect sound and went on to tour those 2 monumental albums on a monster tour. If it wasn't for Matt, Axl would have fled Mannheim and the band would had been burned with Rose in jail. once Slash left, Matt tried talking Ax to return Slash... so yeah, probably right over all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmapelian Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 11 hours ago, scooby845 said: http://www.inquisitr.com/3795616/i-held-guns-n-roses-together-when-they-were-the-most-dangerous-band-in-the-world-claims-matt-sorum/ Thoughts? Interesting read nonetheless... if this was the case they woldn't have fractured after the tour ended......false news matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicDwolfwood Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 He didnt say anything inflammatory or stupid..yet im not surprised some people found a wrong in what he said..lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmapelian Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 10 hours ago, AFD5 said: I'm sure I rember him having a drink & drug addiction to equal Duff & Slash. Apparently he partied just as hard, I'm not sure that would constitute as keeping them together. I remeber hearing him bragging about how he brought cocaine into the mix as opposed to heroin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkenchantress Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Quote “Along came pianos and these epic 10-minute opuses. I was surprised.” I feel you, Matt. I really do *unpopular opinion alert* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bansidhe Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Scrambling for relevance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live Like a Suicide Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 There's nothing wrong with this interview. I don't even think he is saying all this in a smug or arrogant way either. Granted, it is difficult to understand emotions through text, but his comments could be much worse and much more severe. By the way, Axl himself said Sorum's involvement was a 'miracle', and that he 'saved the band's life': Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Matt is a cool cat...always liked him. He'd actually fit in great with them now. Him and Steven alternating. Hard to argue with a lot of what he has to say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickS77 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 28 minutes ago, Live Like a Suicide said: There's nothing wrong with this interview. I don't even think he is saying all this in a smug or arrogant way either. Granted, it is difficult to understand emotions through text, but his comments could be much worse and much more severe. By the way, Axl himself said Sorum's involvement was a 'miracle', and that he 'saved the band's life': Amazing how this interview takes you right back... to a time when, for me personally, everything was fresh and new... and it's scary to think that it's almost 30 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulor666 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 7 hours ago, AxlRoseCDII said: Even if Frank is an inferior drummer, I prefer him for the fact that he doesn't bitch about playing some of the greatest GNR songs and claiming to keep Guns together. What's next, Chris Pitman claiming he was the reason for the reunion? Brain > Sorum Frank doesn't 'bitch' because Frank has nothing to bitch about! Frank wasn't the drummer who played with GNR at the height of their greatness! Frank wasn't the drummer when stupid shit with members of the band caused the greatest band in the world to break up! Frank had nothing to do with GNR apart from 5 songs of CD and years as a session drummer! I don't mean anything against Frank but to write off Sorum's contribution to GNR is fucking dumb - if you do you obviously know nothing about GNR! Sorum has contributed more to GNR than any other member apart from the slash/axl/duff/izzy/adler! Sorum wrote (95% i'm sure) and recorded the drum parts on UYI I and II! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-W.A.R- Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 much rather have matt over frank no matter how much of a douche he is 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris 55 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 2 hours ago, SteveAJones said: What? You don't think there are people here who were alive and well and following Guns n' Roses during Sorum's stint with them? You must be joking. Not embedded in the GNR camp who are on this forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estranged Reality Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double talkin jive mfkr Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 12 hours ago, nikosgnr said: Thank you Axl for not bringin' this guy back on this tour. You 're a lifesaver.. Really. Still trying to understand what people like on Sorum. for his drumming on estranged, NR and double talkin jive + you could be mine and coma - he is infinitely better than Frank 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuriousStyles Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 "Matt has an ego" "Izzy's guitar was turned down" "Slash said something mean about Axl" Those are my top three favourite "trashing former Guns members" reasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlingrl03 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 1 hour ago, Chris 55 said: Not embedded in the GNR camp who are on this forum Except for me....and I know there are other ol 'timers out there. Speak up! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donny Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 my 2 pence worth. do I rate sorum ? yes can sorum handle sell out stadiums around the world ? yes, he proved that 25 years ago is sorum telling the truth in the article about being ok with it ? NO he's lying. for someone that put so much effort in to those epic songs like estranged(don't forget the dolphins) and the rest of the UYI albums and tour he must find it gut wrenching to have no part in this reunion. will sorum play live with the big 3 again ? yes do I want to see sorum in London next year ? no, I want to see ADLER. why ? because 2017 is AFD 30th anniversary. I want to see those 5 original AFD guys turning the clock back and giving the world some shows to remember and sorum should have no part in this. sorum in 2018 ? I would love to see him back playing with the big 3 and I'm sure many millions of other GNR fans would give him a warm welcome back(and a new album would be nice) maybe in 2018 GNR will announce some special guests onstage so AXL, SLASH, DUFF, SORUM, FORTUS, ASHBA, BUMBLEFOOT, REED and that fit emo chick can blast out a 15 minute long version of the new single THE GENERAL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double talkin jive mfkr Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 he's fucking right! just cause he says it hes a dick eh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double talkin jive mfkr Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 2 minutes ago, donny said: my 2 pence worth. do I rate sorum ? yes can sorum handle sell out stadiums around the world ? yes, he proved that 25 years ago is sorum telling the truth in the article about being ok with it ? NO he's lying. for someone that put so much effort in to those epic songs like estranged(don't forget the dolphins) and the rest of the UYI albums and tour he must find it gut wrenching to have no part in this reunion. will sorum play live with the big 3 again ? yes do I want to see sorum in London next year ? no, I want to see ADLER. why ? because 2017 is AFD 30th anniversary. I want to see those 5 original AFD guys turning the clock back and giving the world some shows to remember and sorum should have no part in this. sorum in 2018 ? I would love to see him back playing with the big 3 and I'm sure many millions of other GNR fans would give him a warm welcome back(and a new album would be nice) maybe in 2018 GNR will announce some special guests onstage so AXL, SLASH, DUFF, SORUM, FORTUS, ASHBA, BUMBLEFOOT, REED and that fit emo chick can blast out a 15 minute long version of the new single THE GENERAL i agree theres no way he's not bitter its a negotiating tactic like when izzy spoke out on twitter my guess is the two show up somewhere along the line in the next 2 tours who knows order or whatever but something else will have to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bono Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 The headline is incredibly sensational but I do believe Matt was probably a voice of reason holding things together to an extent back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donny Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 5 minutes ago, double talkin jive mfkr said: i agree theres no way he's not bitter its a negotiating tactic like when izzy spoke out on twitter my guess is the two show up somewhere along the line in the next 2 tours who knows order or whatever but something else will have to happen izzy will be around in 2017. he cant not be. ive seen GNR 3 times since izzy left the band and he's been at all 3 concerts. first was in 93 when gilby Clarke broke his wrist and twice in 2012. in 2012 he turned up just because he's an old mate of axl(40 years at least) and a founding member of the band. he's just playing hard to get now but will be around in 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkenchantress Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 4 hours ago, marlingrl03 said: Except for me....and I know there are other ol 'timers out there. Speak up! 28 years here suffering with these fuckers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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