Dan H. Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Anyone watching this show? Its an alternate history where Japan and Nazi Germany win WWII and take over the world. I'm only a few episodes deep, but the plot is pretty meta and mysterious, seems like their may be some sci fi elements down the road. Amazon Video. If you have Amazon Prime for the Holidays, you can watch it for free Based on the Phillip K Dick novel of the same name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 I have a friend who's been into it since the first episode. It's something that I need to get around to watching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 I think I've made a thread about it awhile back but nobody cared. Glad someone else is watching it. I have a friend who's renewing her prime just to watch this show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deb Rose Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Me, me! Episode 1 of season 2 still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Watched the first episode today. Seemed pretty good. Will continue to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Watched the second season finale. Never been this invested in a show since Game of Thrones and Breaking Bad. It is amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Jay Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Watched the very first episode a year ago, I think I fell asleep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 13 hours ago, Silent Jay said: Watched the very first episode a year ago, I think I fell asleep. Your loss. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl owns dexter Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Watching, on episode 4 of season 2. Rufus Sewell is amazing in this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 On 12/21/2016 at 2:25 PM, Axl owns dexter said: Watching, on episode 4 of season 2. Rufus Sewell is amazing in this. Obergruppenfuhrer John Smith has become one of my favorite characters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 I read the book and saw most of season 1. But doesn't go beyond the book. I need to go back and rewatch it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontdamnmeuyi2015 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 I didn't realize Sebastian Roche is in this show. Wish I had Netflex. I met Sebastian at a Vampire Diaries convention. He's also been on The Originals and General Hospital. he is such a nice talented guy. He did a Q&A and had everyone laughing so hard. He kept dancing and singing that he hardly answered any questions, but he was so entertaining! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlingrl03 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 8 hours ago, dontdamnmeuyi2015 said: I didn't realize Sebastian Roche is in this show. Wish I had Netflex. I met Sebastian at a Vampire Diaries convention. He's also been on The Originals and General Hospital. he is such a nice talented guy. He did a Q&A and had everyone laughing so hard. He kept dancing and singing that he hardly answered any questions, but he was so entertaining! Lucky! I love Sebastian. ...first discovered him as a villain on General Hospital which he nailed. He can play any part....so talented! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 I thought Roche was excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl owns dexter Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 (edited) I finished season 2. I think the pacing was a little better than season 1, both seasons had an excellent finale. SPOILERS Below I've never read the book, but I was surprised Hitler just passed away in the middle of the night like he did. Also a little surprised the Reich didn't have more of a space program or anything beyond an atomic bomb by 1962. Edited December 30, 2016 by Axl owns dexter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan H. Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Axl owns dexter said: I finished season 2. I think the pacing was a little better than season 1, both seasons had an excellent finale. SPOILERS Below I've never read the book, but I was surprised Hitler just passed away in the middle of the night like he did. Also a little surprised the Reich didn't have more of a space program or anything beyond an atomic bomb by 1962. In the book the Nazi's have already colonized Mars. It's mostly a passing moment of exposition, the book does a much better job of immersing you in the alternate history. The show seems to have trimmed a lot of that stuff in favor of a smoother thriller narrative, rather than a heady sci-fi fantasy like the book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontdamnmeuyi2015 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 19 hours ago, marlingrl03 said: Lucky! I love Sebastian. ...first discovered him as a villain on General Hospital which he nailed. He can play any part....so talented! I totally agree. he's super nice in person and like I said had everyone laughing so hard during his panel. He's very handsome in person too and I totally love his accent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 On 12/30/2016 at 1:27 PM, Dan H. said: In the book the Nazi's have already colonized Mars. It's mostly a passing moment of exposition, the book does a much better job of immersing you in the alternate history. The show seems to have trimmed a lot of that stuff in favor of a smoother thriller narrative, rather than a heady sci-fi fantasy like the book. Heusman mentioned a space program in passing. I think they toned it down for the audience to buy the plan that the Nazis planned on draining the Mediterranian for farmland. Also the book was written back in the 60's where space travel was still a dream. People actually thought we'd be taking regular trips to the moon when we haven't been back since 1972. Nowadays it seems a bit far fetch. Rocket technology to get you from New York to Berlin in an hour more believable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyDRE Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Watched a few episodes here and there, but I wasn't paying to much attention, as was doing other things at the same time (cleaning/putting up decorations). Will probably binge sometime this upcoming week. Have heard nothing but good things, especially about the second season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl owns dexter Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 (edited) 22 hours ago, Georgy Zhukov said: Heusman mentioned a space program in passing. I think they toned it down for the audience to buy the plan that the Nazis planned on draining the Mediterranian for farmland. Also the book was written back in the 60's where space travel was still a dream. People actually thought we'd be taking regular trips to the moon when we haven't been back since 1972. Nowadays it seems a bit far fetch. Rocket technology to get you from New York to Berlin in an hour more believable. True, but if they're taking liberties, might as well make the space program further along (but not Mars level) given that the V2 rocket program would have just kept progressing into a space program. I mean, we put Von Braun on the sidelines until the mid 50's didn't we? Also, I'm shocked the German High Command didn't take into account the Japanese could have retaliated with chemical weapons and killed a lot more than the initial estimate of a few hundred thousand in the finale of season 2. But, maybe I'm nitpicking! Edited January 1, 2017 by Axl owns dexter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 The Nazis thought their technological superiority would overwhelm the Japanese, Heusemann didn't seem concerned with the possibility that the Japanese possess nuclear weapons, knowing the surprise attack would put the Japanese at a disadvantage. It wasn't until Himmler got wind of Heusmann's treachery, that he was eventually overthrown. Also, I am pretty sure in the book, Himmler has been long dead and Heusmann is just a composite character of real life Nazi leader Martin Bormann and possibly others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicrawker Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Big fan of this show and I am in the 2nd season episode where John Smith gets the call Hitler collapsed.have a few more days off to bings before I go back to work. Will have to put the book on my reading list......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl owns dexter Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 2 hours ago, Georgy Zhukov said: The Nazis thought their technological superiority would overwhelm the Japanese, Heusemann didn't seem concerned with the possibility that the Japanese possess nuclear weapons, knowing the surprise attack would put the Japanese at a disadvantage. It wasn't until Himmler got wind of Heusmann's treachery, that he was eventually overthrown. Also, I am pretty sure in the book, Himmler has been long dead and Heusmann is just a composite character of real life Nazi leader Martin Bormann and possibly others. I know they didn't think the Japanese had nukes, but I think it's safe to assume both the Germans and Japanese have huge stocks of weaponized chemical weapons, surely if the Japanese were facing the type of attack the German High Command was proposing then they would have used their chemical weapon stocks? However, they probably left this out because it then ruins the whole plotline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Not if the Germans struck their chemical weapons stockpiles which can be assumed were stored in or near major cities. Also the Nazis weren't the most rational people, the war itself is il-advised and it whatever territory the Nazis would conquer would be useless because it would be heavily radiated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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