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45 minutes ago, Asia said:

Not that I have time to read it all through but I see that a conviction has been made and the jury has even arrived at a sentence. All that basing on the testimony of a notorious liar. Congrats guys!

What if, for example, Steven hurt his back during rehearsal because he got drunk or high? What if his mother and her lawyers came up with ridiculous demands? What if the offer to play more songs only concerned the nostalgia Troubadour show and nothing more or it has never even been made? You know nothing, don't know the other side's point of view at all and yet you've already basically made monsters of them all, even your beloved Slash and Duff. And Steven, the notorious addict, notoriously lying, making excuses for himself and endlessly thrashing everyone around him has become a saint... This is sick...

To me, considering what Steven Adler has been doing and saying for all these years, it was shocking that they actually gave him a chance to do anything regarding this reunion. The guy has pretty much bashed everyone, kept on portraying Axl as both a pathethic idiot and a monster, Duff and Slash as heartless dicks, etc. He has failed them at every attempt they made to reach out to him. And yet they offered him some part in this, which, let me remind you, they didn't have to do. What came out of it? His mommy is using it to cash in on some pathethic memoir and Steven is back to shit talking and thrashing everybody.

Still the guy is a saint and your hero... Well, whatever...

Steven has all the right to be part of a reunion since he was there from the start. Everyone who is part of AFD deserves it. What Steven said now and over the years is nothing compared to the things Axl said but he seems to be your saint and hero... Well, whatever...

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47 minutes ago, Asia said:

Not that I have time to read it all through but I see that a conviction has been made and the jury has even arrived at a sentence. All that basing on the testimony of a notorious liar. Congrats guys!

What if, for example, Steven hurt his back during rehearsal because he got drunk or high? What if his mother and her lawyers came up with ridiculous demands? What if the offer to play more songs only concerned the nostalgia Troubadour show and nothing more or it has never even been made? You know nothing, don't know the other side's point of view at all and yet you've already basically made monsters of them all, even your beloved Slash and Duff. And Steven, the notorious addict, notoriously lying, making excuses for himself and endlessly thrashing everyone around him has become a saint... This is sick...

To me, considering what Steven Adler has been doing and saying for all these years, it was shocking that they actually gave him a chance to do anything regarding this reunion. The guy has pretty much bashed everyone, kept on portraying Axl as both a pathethic idiot and a monster, Duff and Slash as heartless dicks, etc. He has failed them at every attempt they made to reach out to him. And yet they offered him some part in this, which, let me remind you, they didn't have to do. What came out of it? His mommy is using it to cash in on some pathethic memoir and Steven is back to shit talking and thrashing everybody.

Still the guy is a saint and your hero... Well, whatever...

I believe every word he said. Having said that I think he went too far. I think both sides are on the wrong here. Axl, Slash and Duff because they acted like jerks with Adler. It was cruel what they did to him. And Adler because he should know that to air dirty laundry would get him nothing. I think he made his point in AMA. There was no need to go into details about Duff phone call or the shows in Argentina. If there was a tiny chance of a reunion of the AFD 5 at some point. I'm afraid Adler just blew it. And he is not the only one on the losing side. We are too because we won't have the AFD 5 shows we wanted to see. Maybe somehow they all find a way to work things out. But I'm not optimistic about it.

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I'm not gonna try to change anyone's opinion here, because we're all great fans, but here's my two cents:

Picture that first rehearsal. They haven't really worked together in 25 years. He comes in, mouth on a hinge. I mean like in that interview? Yowza. How long could you listen to that if you're the other guys? So then he hurts his back first fuckin thing (maybe that was the 2nd day, I forgot exactly when he said, but it was very early on). Misses two weeks. What are those guys supposed to think? Their own relationship is fragile and tenuous at best, and they've gotta be thinking "do we really need this train wreck hitting the road full time with us"? Something just doesn't sit right with me on this whole hurt back story. Nobody has said relapse, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt there.

If it was gonna be like he claims, him playing the old, Frank playing the rest, and the band thinks that's gonna work for them- I say bring it on. But it seems like they'd all be putting up with a fuckin daily circus for that to happen. 

Pretty fuckin shitty of him to bad mouth Frank like that, when he was all over social media grinning with him and acting like his buddy. 

There's a lot of his story I'm not quite buying, but we will never know anyone else's side because nobody else will fuckin do an interview.... 

Again, I'm not trying to change anyone's opinion, just sayin...

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2 minutes ago, Lies They Tell said:

Most people who boycotted the tour? You mean the three people who boycotted it? Honestly I haven't heard of anyone who would have boycotted it because Izzy or Steven wasn't there.

yet i HAVE. maybe you are not accessing the sites i am...smh :facepalm: and i NEVER said there were tons, just taking into consideration it's more than THREE! sooooo.......

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LOL at the nation that a handful of harcore fans boycotting the tour is going to affect Axl/Slash/Duff in the slightest :facepalm: Their cash is brought in by the casual fans going to see these shows (99% of the audience) and those only care about Axl and Slash for the most part.

Apart from that I more or less agree with @Blackstar and @Asia. And the guy who talked about people over-reacting because they enjoy having reasons to be outraged about something.

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1 hour ago, Asia said:

Not that I have time to read it all through but I see that a conviction has been made and the jury has even arrived at a sentence. All that basing on the testimony of a notorious liar. Congrats guys!

What if, for example, Steven hurt his back during rehearsal because he got drunk or high? What if his mother and her lawyers came up with ridiculous demands? What if the offer to play more songs only concerned the nostalgia Troubadour show and nothing more or it has never even been made? You know nothing, don't know the other side's point of view at all and yet you've already basically made monsters of them all, even your beloved Slash and Duff. And Steven, the notorious addict, notoriously lying, making excuses for himself and endlessly thrashing everyone around him has become a saint... This is sick...

To me, considering what Steven Adler has been doing and saying for all these years, it was shocking that they actually gave him a chance to do anything regarding this reunion. The guy has pretty much bashed everyone, kept on portraying Axl as both a pathethic idiot and a monster, Duff and Slash as heartless dicks, etc. He has failed them at every attempt they made to reach out to him. And yet they offered him some part in this, which, let me remind you, they didn't have to do. What came out of it? His mommy is using it to cash in on some pathethic memoir and Steven is back to shit talking and thrashing everybody.

Still the guy is a saint and your hero... Well, whatever...

This just can't be serious. 

He hurt his back during a fn' rehearsal, how is that related to being high or drunk (even if he was, which clearly isn't the case)? It wasn't just Steven who said this, it was a lot of people, Mick Wall was the first back in april. I'm sure Steven paid him to lie :facepalm:

The thing about Steven's mother and lawyers is so insane that doesn't even deserves an answer. What's next? "Maybe Steven tried to rape Axl at rehearsals, that's why they threw him out"?

Steven is not a notorious liar, he's said lies as everyone else. Slash have, Duff have... This tour is called after an Axl lie.

Steven is not THE notorious addict, he's just ONE OF THEM. Our beloved Slash almost killed himself and had to use a pacemaker for years. Our beloved Duff was in a hospital BEGGING TO BE KILLED because he couldn't deal with the pain he put himself through. 

Oh, evil Steven bashed Axl, he's so mean. Axl on the other hand bashed Steven, his mother, Slash, Duff, Izzy (even dedicated DTJ to him several times on the fn' shows) and the list goes on and on.

There are no saints here, neither of them, there are guys who care about their friends and guys who care about their bank accounts. And Steven is not my hero, Slash is (and I'm a bigger fan of Axl than of Steven too) but doesn't mean I will make shit up to justify him.

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1 minute ago, Blake Sabbath said:

The other sad reality is they continue to sell those tees at the merch booth with the Appetite artwork on the front, with Izzy and Steven's skulls on the cross! 

You never know, but he might have a small cut of that; but I expect Axl probably owns that end of things.

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I gotta agree with some of the others here that Steven seems to have really matured in the last few years.

For him to have spent literqlly decades begging for a reunion and apparently spending "2 years practicing 25 songs a night" only to be told at the last minute that he was only gonna be in it for sporadic cameos, if anything, must've REALLY hurt him. But rather than have another meltdown like in the old days, he persisted and did his cameos, and then gracefully walked away when he felt like he was no longer welcome. On top of that, he still says good things about the other classic and current members. Major kudos to him for that!

im glad he at least KINDA got his wish and now FINALLY seems content on moving on.

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Just now, Tom2112 said:

You never know, but he might have a small cut of that; but I expect Axl probably owns that end of things.

Well he didn't mention anything about merch but he did say he reminds himself he gets 25 cents everytime an Appetite track is played somewhere

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3 hours ago, Asia said:

Not that I have time to read it all through but I see that a conviction has been made and the jury has even arrived at a sentence. All that basing on the testimony of a notorious liar. Congrats guys!

What if, for example, Steven hurt his back during rehearsal because he got drunk or high? What if his mother and her lawyers came up with ridiculous demands? What if the offer to play more songs only concerned the nostalgia Troubadour show and nothing more or it has never even been made? You know nothing, don't know the other side's point of view at all and yet you've already basically made monsters of them all, even your beloved Slash and Duff. And Steven, the notorious addict, notoriously lying, making excuses for himself and endlessly thrashing everyone around him has become a saint... This is sick...

To me, considering what Steven Adler has been doing and saying for all these years, it was shocking that they actually gave him a chance to do anything regarding this reunion. The guy has pretty much bashed everyone, kept on portraying Axl as both a pathethic idiot and a monster, Duff and Slash as heartless dicks, etc. He has failed them at every attempt they made to reach out to him. And yet they offered him some part in this, which, let me remind you, they didn't have to do. What came out of it? His mommy is using it to cash in on some pathethic memoir and Steven is back to shit talking and thrashing everybody.

Still the guy is a saint and your hero... Well, whatever...

I didn't get that sentiment from Steven's interview. He was very clear that none of what he said was done with malice. Hell, he even heaped praise on the guys. It sounds like he just wanted to vent a little. That said, i agree that we should not be taking one person's word for it. There is more than one side to every story, and that is important to keep in mind. At this point, i hope Steven is brought in for a new album or some more guest spots, hopefully working his way back into the fold. He seems well enough to play the part.

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On 2/17/2017 at 4:48 PM, Tourettes2400 said:

He said that they really didn't pay him much and that he did it for himself and the fans. Pretty much he did it for closure. He really does sound like he is happier. I think he secretly does still want to punch Axl though lol.

hahahaha! that made me laugh out loud! :lol:

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Did axl slash and duff think Steven wasn't ready to tour becaus he was coming off an injury? Either way it definitely sounds like he got shafted. He has always been my favorite member and it really hurts to know he almost had he wish, playing again with the a5. From the sounds of it he won't be playing with them for a long long time. WHAT A WASTE OF TALENT!!! Why would a band not want a top notice drummer, who blows away anything their current drummer can do?!?!

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4 hours ago, Funky.Monkey said:

A couple of excerpts follow (transcribed by BLABBERMOUTH.NET).  

On what it was like performing with fellow classic-GUNS N' ROSES-lineup members Slash, Duff McKagan and Axl Rose for the first time in twenty-six years in July 2016:  

Adler: "It was, 'Thank you, God, for this beautiful present.' I'd been playing 'Appetite [For Destruction]' [songs] live, 'Use Your Illusion' and the songs that, obviously, I didn't get to play on 'Use Your Illusion', I was practicing them… I was playing twenty-five songs twice a day for two years. 'Cause once I found out [the reunion] was probably gonna happen, I was, like, 'Yes! I'm gonna be ready and on top of it.' And then second rehearsal, I hurt my back and I had to have a minor surgery. I had a pinched nerve in the L4 [nerve root], and within an hour, I was out of the hospital and I was all better. And I talked to them [and said], 'Let me come back,' but it didn't happen, and I was resentful. And then I talked to my sponsor and I was, 'Okay, you're right. I'm not gonna give in to resentment.' And then they called me, and I [went], 'Holy shit! Here it comes. This is gonna be so awesome.' I'm still smiling about it. I have dreams about it. My wife goes, 'What are you smiling about? You're sleeping and you're smiling.' And I go, 'I was on stage in front of seventy thousand people with Slash and Duff and Axl.' I just wish Izzy [Stradlin, former GUNS N' ROSES guitarist] as there, but, shit, I got to do it. Thank you, God. 'Cause I wanted it for twenty-six years. All I did every day was, 'Please, God, let this happen. Let this happen. I wanna play with them again. I wanna do this.' For twenty-six years, every time I'd go out, people — not just one or two, but five, six, ten people, especially when I'd do a show, it was hundreds — [they'd ask me] 'When are you going to get back together?' And I wish I could say it would have been… Well, we would have never broke up, if I had a say."   

On his 1990 exit from GUNS N' ROSES:  

Adler: "If people think that I got kicked out of GUNS N' ROSES for doing drugs, they are so mistaken. Everybody in that band was doing drugs. I was doing less than anybody. I got kicked out of the band, and Izzy got kicked out of the band, and then Slash and Duff did, because Axl wanted to take control of everything — he wanted to own the name, he wanted to be the only person who gets paid for the songs. He wanted to be the manager, the accountant and everything, when all he needs to do is get up there and sing like a motherfucker that he does. But he wanted to own and control everything. Like Elton John — he wanted to be like Elton John or Billy Joel. That's where the whole piano thing came in. He wanted to be a piano man, which is cool, but that's not GUNS N' ROSES. Leave GUNS N' ROSES the way it is, and then you do solo albums, like all musicians in other bands do. But that's what he wanted to do, and that's what happened. So I was the first to go, 'cause I was the easiest one; I was the nicest guy. They tricked me. They had me sign some contract with my lawyer there at the office. And I was completely sick at the time. And I had no idea I was signing my rights away, rights to the name, my royalties. They wanted to basically give me two thousand dollars and throw me in the street. And thank God my mom realized what happened and she got a lawyer for me. And thank God everything got taken care of."   

On whether it was his understanding, while he was rehearsing for the reunion shows early last year, that he would only play one or two songs with GUNS N' ROSES at all the concerts:  

Adler: "My understanding was I was gonna do all the 'Appetite' [material], the 'Lies' and three or four of the 'Use Your Illusion' songs. And then Frank [Ferrer, current GUNS N' ROSES drummer], who's a wonderful, awesome guy, he was gonna do the 'Chinese Democracy' [material] and a couple of the other [songs]… I was gonna start it, he was gonna come in the middle, and I was gonna end it. And I was cool with that."   

On when he realized that plans had changed:  

Adler: "I was ready to do The Troubadour show [on April 1, 2016]. Like I said, I had been playing twenty-five songs twice a day for almost two years — every day. So I was ready to go. And then the second rehearsal… I came into rehearsal in January, February, March. And the fucking second day, I just stretched… All I did was stretch — I put my arms in the air to stretch — and I go, 'I just did something.' And we played another seven songs, and then my back was really sore. And I came home about eight at night, and then by midnight, I couldn't even stand up. It was just terrible. I was out for two weeks, and then I got the epidural after about a week, and then I had the surgery about two weeks… I was ready when they did The Troubadour show. And Duff called me and said, 'Dude, you're not gonna play with us anymore. You're not gonna do these shows.' And I was, like, 'You're the worst fucking person in the world.' And I hung up on him. And I tried to call him back and left a message, saying, 'I'm so sorry I said that.' When I said that he was the worst person in the world, I didn't mean he was, 'cause I was thinking I was the worst person in the world — that I couldn't even fucking get back with my fucking guys after they gave me this opportunity. But I said it to him. And when you have resentments, you say things that you're feeling. And I was feeling that about me, and I said it about him, and I couldn't apologize to him enough, because he knows I love him more than anything. And I got to apologize, 'cause, obviously, I'd seen him last year and we did shows together. And he understood."   

On whether GUNS N' ROSES chose to use Frank Ferrer as the only drummer for most of the shows because of tour-insurance reasons:  

Adler: "They already had Frank, so God forbid I couldn't do it, then there was Frank. So it's not an insurance thing. They just didn't give me the opportunity. It's cheaper to just have Frank. I mean, they were only paying me… not that much. I was doing it — 'cause, thank God, I don't need the money that bad — I was doing it because I wanted to play with them, and I wanted to play for the fans. 'Cause Frank is a great drummer, but he does not play the way Steven Adler plays, and Steven Adler doesn't play the way Matt [Sorum] plays, and Matt doesn't play the way Frank plays. We all have our own style, but my style is the one that is on those records that everybody grew up listening to and [made] memories to. So when Frank is playing those songs, he's not playing them right. He's just really a great time keeper. I mean, put it this way: they were playing '[Mr.] Brownstone'… I didn't know they were playing 'Brownstone' until all of a sudden they started signing the chorus. I went, 'That was 'Brownstone'?' 'Brownstone' you know instantly. I came up with a kickass groove. You know that. And I'm standing, going, 'What song is this?' But, like I said, we all have our own styles."   

On why he only played one song with GUNS N' ROSES at each of the two shows in Buenos Aires, Argentina last November:  

Adler: "I got there. And I got my wife [who is Argentinian], all her family, her parents, her sisters, her sisters' babies, their mothers, their aunts… I got, like, nine of 'em, and I was up there and I was ready to go up. And Axl says, 'What the fuck is he doing here? He's not supposed to be here 'till tomorrow?' So I was, all, 'Excuse me? I just flew fifteen thousand miles.' So they played a few more songs, and I came up, he introduced me, I played one song and they turned the lights out on me. I went back behind the drum riser. And I was all, 'What the fuck?' And everybody in the crew came around and started hugging me and going, 'Dude, we love you, Steve. It's okay.' I mean, the whole crew — there was, like, twenty people who came up to me and talked to me. And then the next night, I did one more song again. Other parts I don't even wanna talk about. All I know is the best of it is was me and my wife got to be together with her family for the first time in fifteen years. I have seen her family, and she's seen her family, but we'd never seen them together. So that was great… I obviously misunderstood to go to Australia and Japan and, I think, Thailand. And then, I was all, 'Yeah, I would love to do that.' But then I found out that it was either one. It was either, 'You can either come to Australia or you can go to Japan or you can go to Thailand.' And I said, 'I can't do that.' But, like I said, I got some closure, and I'm thankful I got to do what I did."   

On whether he still harbors any resentment toward the GUNS N' ROSES guys:  

Adler: "No, no, no. Not at all. I love those guys. It is what it is. What I want it to be is the five of us, and what Axl wants it to be is what he wants it to be, and I respect him for it. I'm just glad I got to be a part of it for the good part — when it was fun and exciting. It was magical when we were together [back in the late '80s]. Back then, even our worst show was great. It was just magic. It was very special. And I couldn't feel more blessed or thankful that I got to be a part of it. Or more proud. I'm proud. I'm gonna die proud. And I'm cool with that. [Laughs]"   

On whether there is zero chance he will play with GUNS N' ROSES again:  

Adler: "I have closure to where if they wanna do it the right way, the five of us… And, like I said, I'll share the stage with Frank — I don't care. As long as I'm there doing my songs, I don't care. But if they'd wanna do it the five of us, I am there! I love those guys. I'm proud of what the five of us… and since the five of us are still alive, I think the five of us should play for our fucking fans, give 'em what they want. I mean, I live a beautiful, comfortable life because people still love our music, and that's every musician's dream — to make music that people love. Not just for a week or a month or a year — this is thirty fucking years, and people still… Every time I get in the car and one of our songs [comes on], I go, 'Okay, there's my twenty-five cents. Yeah!' [Laughs]"   

On whether he thinks there will ever be a proper reunion of the classic GUNS N' ROSES lineup:  

Adler: "Dude, if the five of us got back together, it would be the biggest reunion tour ever in rock — unless John Bonham came back to life or Jimi Hendrix or Jim Morrison and now [THE DOORS] keyboard player. If the five of us are alive, it would be the biggest thing ever; I mean, people would be so happy. It would be like an event… That's what it should be, that's what it could be, but that's not what it is. I asked Slash if he would talk to Axl about that, like, in July it'll be thirty years that 'Appetite' came out. So I was thinking why don't we just do four or five shows and play all of 'Appetite' from beginning to end, throw [in], like, 'Civil War', and maybe something off of… like 'Patience'… and record it, videotape it. And that's it, if that's all you wanna do. And if Axl's happy after that, then we could do more. But I thought that would be really cool. But that's my idea. If it was up to me, it would be a different story. But it is what it is."   

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/steven-adler-explains-his-absence-from-guns-n-roses-reunion-tour-they-just-didnt-give-me-the-opportunity/

 

A gazillion thanks for putting this up. I didn't get the chance to listen to the interview and just basing it on posts that quoted some excerpts off of it.

If Adler's words are 100% true, 100% credible, then from his interview, Axl is still the master of puppets and man with the last say. Like he himself said, he's a dictator. I sure hope this isn't the case.

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