Popular Post blackmore Posted March 3, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted March 3, 2017 Hi guys, by accident, I was watching the footage of GnR playing in Buenos Aires on 4th Nov 2016 a few moments ago. And I stumbled across the scene after Out Ta Get Me, where Steven wanted to continue with My Michelle but, they turned his drums off! You can see it in the video here (1:45:33) - just click on the play-button: And the most emberassing thing is. The whole band, Axl, Slash and Duff go away and hide behind the curtains, because they're probably too emberassed to interact with Steven, because he's like "WTF is going on here? Why did they turn the drums off?". Look closely. And this is the only time that Slash starts the Wish you were Here thing at the front of the stage. I would love to know if he was okay with what had just happened or if it was just an Axl thing and Slash just thought: OK - let's get through that and just pretend that nothing happened... It's really to see. But Duff and Slash acted very professionally as if nothing happened. What do you think? Steven was right it seems... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom-Ass Posted March 3, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted March 3, 2017 Whoever was to blame, it was a total asshole move to do that to him..... 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigpoop Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Yeah this came up in one of the recent threads about his interviews and some people were acting like he made it up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Derick Posted March 3, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted March 3, 2017 C'mon guys when he started My Michelle he started after greeting the public. Slash had already changed his guitar,Axl was already in the dressing room switching the clothes to the Layla and NR part. He started play that tune without talk to anybody and It´s not that way, the lights guy, the teleprompter guy and the whole band were not warned about it. I was there! He started play that on his own. If you want to continue to blame Axl or the three bastards, that's fine, it's already become cultural here. But Adler started playing without the band knowing about it. Seriously, too much drama about it! 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top-Hatted One Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) Dirty and sad. Just the fact that all this happened after he flew all the way down to Argentina for a 3min song is enough to make ones stomach turn. Nevermind everything else Edited March 3, 2017 by Top-Hatted One 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estranged_85 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) all i can see is that Adler drum on the cymbals max 2 sec. then throw his drum sticks to the fans and the band was already starting another song. can't see what's the big deal? I have grew up with drug/alcohol addicts and one thing i learned was it's never their fault, always somebody elses.. We only have heard one side of this story. But i do wish they could've let him play atleast all the AFD songs on those shows were he was guesting. Good thing is that he seems to have some sort of closure. Edited March 3, 2017 by estranged_85 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tom-Ass said: Whoever was to blame, it was a total asshole move to do that to him..... This. 15,000 miles for one freaking song. Absolutely ridiculous Edited March 3, 2017 by Billsfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 32 minutes ago, estranged_85 said: all i can see is that Adler drum on the cymbals max 2 sec. then throw his drum sticks to the fans and the band was already starting another song. can't see what's the big deal? I have grew up with drug/alcohol addicts and one thing i learned was it's never their fault, always somebody elses.. We only have heard one side of this story. But i do wish they could've let him play atleast all the AFD songs on those shows were he was guesting. Good thing is that he seems to have some sort of closure. I totally agree with you on this one on all counts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BorderlineCrazy Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 How the fuck are drugs related to what happened there? Steven quit drugs in 2008 and this happened in november 2016!!! Enough of the junkie bullshit already! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 45 minutes ago, estranged_85 said: all i can see is that Adler drum on the cymbals max 2 sec. then throw his drum sticks to the fans and the band was already starting another song. can't see what's the big deal? I have grew up with drug/alcohol addicts and one thing i learned was it's never their fault, always somebody elses.. We only have heard one side of this story. But i do wish they could've let him play atleast all the AFD songs on those shows were he was guesting. Good thing is that he seems to have some sort of closure. Its fair to point out though that Adler has taken the blame for his actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asia Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Adler quit drugs in 2008... Ahahahahaha, that's agood one... Sorry but you cannot just step into a band's show and decide what you're gonna play and when. Steven knows that well enough. He tried to force it upon them and they reacted the only possible way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top-Hatted One Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 You know what else is funny? The notion that Steven is erratic and cant be counted on. And that there is too much money on the line to be messing around. Meanwhile Axl keeps getting stuck in traffic knowingly. The other guys don't get stuck in traffic. You know why? Because they get their by 4pm and earlier for lunch and soundcheck. If you are familiar with Slash and Duff's history they don't like sitting around past start time as the crowd grows anxious waiting for their singer to show up. They like to honor their commitment. Especially when multi-millions are at stake. Was one of their major issue with Axl back in the day and again with Scott Weiland. Go figure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BorderlineCrazy Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 12 minutes ago, Billsfan said: Its fair to point out though that Adler has taken the blame for his actions. In his last interview, he said "I did this to myself, I'm not a victim" but why listening to him when we can just bash him for wanting to play more than 8 minutes. What a delusional guy he is 2 minutes ago, Asia said: Adler quit drugs in 2008... Ahahahahaha, that's agood one... Sorry but you cannot just step into a band's show and decide what you're gonna play and when. Steven knows that well enough. He tried to force it upon them and they reacted the only possible way. Really anxious to see you prove otherwise... You can't make someone travel half the world to only let him play one song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asia Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Just now, BorderlineCrazy said: In his last interview, he said "I did this to myself, I'm not a victim" but why listening to him when we can just bash him for wanting to play more than 8 minutes. What a delusional guy he is Really anxious to see you prove otherwise... You can't make someone travel half the world to only let him play one song. You can, if he agrees to that. Nobody ordered him to do this, he could refuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BorderlineCrazy Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Just now, Asia said: You can, if he agrees to that. Nobody ordered him to do this, he could refuse. Yeah, you know he really wants to be there so you abuse him, that's sweet. Still waiting to see Steven doing drugs after 2008... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhenYou'reTalkinToYourself Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Top-Hatted One said: You know what else is funny? The notion that Steven is erratic and cant be counted on. And that there is too much money on the line to be messing around. Meanwhile Axl keeps getting stuck in traffic knowingly. The other guys don't get stuck in traffic. You know why? Because they get their by 4pm and earlier for lunch and soundcheck. If you are familiar with Slash and Duff's history they don't like sitting around past start time as the crowd grows anxious waiting for their singer to show up. They like to honor their commitment. Especially when multi-millions are at stake. Was one of their major issue with Axl back in the day and again with Scott Weiland. Go figure Well, if Axl is unreliable they can always throw him out like Adler. (sarcasm) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 (edited) All the more reason why we need more info to make a judgement. There are a lot of people talking about a situation they know not much about, I for one can easily see either sides (or both at the same time) being unreasonable. To be a fly on the wall of the behind the scenes talks must be very interesting to say the least Edited March 4, 2017 by WhazUp 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asia Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 1 minute ago, BorderlineCrazy said: Yeah, you know he really wants to be there so you abuse him, that's sweet. Still waiting to see Steven doing drugs after 2008... I didnt see him doing drugs in the 80s and 90s - does that mean he was sober and they indeed threw him out because he was the nicest guy of them all as he recently claims? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BorderlineCrazy Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Just now, Asia said: I didnt see him doing drugs in the 80s and 90s - does that mean he was sober and they indeed threw him out because he was the nicest guy of them all as he recently claims? You saw the effects back then, while you can see how well he's doing now. Hadn't he gotten clean, he would be dead or barely functional by now. Look at Scott Weiland during his last year, it was heartbreaking to see him. Steven looks better now than he did in 2001, he's out of trouble, enjoying life, doing his thing, hanging out with friends and playing drums. You dislike the guy which has nothing to do with drugs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holographic Universe Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Derick said: C'mon guys when he started My Michelle he started after greeting the public. Slash had already changed his guitar,Axl was already in the dressing room switching the clothes to the Layla and NR part. He started play that tune without talk to anybody and It´s not that way, the lights guy, the teleprompter guy and the whole band were not warned about it. I was there! He started play that on his own. If you want to continue to blame Axl or the three bastards, that's fine, it's already become cultural here. But Adler started playing without the band knowing about it. Seriously, too much drama about it! Exactly. Thanks for sharing the objective truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Derick said: C'mon guys when he started My Michelle he started after greeting the public. Slash had already changed his guitar,Axl was already in the dressing room switching the clothes to the Layla and NR part. He started play that tune without talk to anybody and It´s not that way, the lights guy, the teleprompter guy and the whole band were not warned about it. I was there! He started play that on his own. If you want to continue to blame Axl or the three bastards, that's fine, it's already become cultural here. But Adler started playing without the band knowing about it. Seriously, too much drama about it! True, I can see from a pure logistics point of view how just an impromptu starting of a song without warning everyone (who were mere seconds to being ready to play WYWH judging by what happened). You have lights, soundboard people, the whole band, etc. to get on board with it. If this is indeed what happened of course - I am just going by what the assumption is of what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holographic Universe Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Billsfan said: This. 15,000 miles for one freaking song. Absolutely ridiculous The "15,000 mile" narrative is silly because he never played more than two songs on this tour and he wasn't going to play more than 2 anyways. So you would bitch he if played two songs. Steven wasn't guaranteed more than one song and any expectation existed solely in his head. The band doesn't owe him shit. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holographic Universe Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 49 minutes ago, Billsfan said: Its fair to point out though that Adler has taken the blame for his actions. Not entirely. That last interview had him saying he was kicked out because he was a "nice guy". And that Axl was a control freak. Truth is Steven wasn't a great musician and couldn't play the new material. He couldn't adapt to the evolution of the band because he was about drugs and fucking off. Steven was not dedicated to perfecting his craft as the others did even despite their drug abuse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BorderlineCrazy Posted March 4, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted March 4, 2017 Just now, The Holographic Universe said: Truth is Steven wasn't a great musician and couldn't play the new material. Biggest piece of bullshit ever written and it starts with "truth is". UNREAL. 3 minutes ago, The Holographic Universe said: That last interview had him saying he was kicked out because he was a "nice guy". And that Axl was a control freak. The reporter gave everyone one wish. Steven wished for peace of mind. Izzy said he wanted a Maserati. Slash wanted an endless supply of Marlboro cigarettes. Duff just wanted to have the GN’R record out, and to be on the road. Axl was more prophetic. “I think that . . . I don’t like that question. It’s ridiculous because we are working on getting everything we want. If I had my wishes, I’d want all the money there is. I’d want power and control over everything there is, and third, I’d want all the wishes there are to have.” Another case of Steven making shit up 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 And Steven is a foreteller or what?? He predicted Axl wanted control of the whole band, the business, the everything it all. And that's what he got. No more questions, your honor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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