AtariLegend Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) 26 minutes ago, wasted said: I'm lost. Someone explain British politics to me. Tories win. What happens? Labour win. What happens? Tories win; The poor/disabled/old/unemployed get hit in the head with a shovel MPs bang on about immigrants and foreigners, despite them being in charge of the policies Cuts to public spending/services and more austerity Tax breaks for the rich Help the Americans in the middle east and sell weapons to the Saudis Wet dreams of making 1984 a reality Less workers rights Labour win; The poor/disabled/old/unemployed don't get hit in the head with a shovel Brexit (it's debatable) More public spending and more on services, nationalization of services such as rail for example Tax increases for the rich Foreign policy questionable, but less likely to give into Americas middle east whims More power to unions Edited June 1, 2017 by AtariLegend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 If Labour win, we'll all start wearing elbow patches, listening to Pink Floyd and eating prawn cocktails. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 1 minute ago, DieselDaisy said: If Labour win, we'll all start wearing elbow patches, listening to Pink Floyd and eating prawn cocktails. I'm in. just give me a bottle of tequila and shotgun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Just now, wasted said: I'm in. just give me a bottle of tequila and shotgun. ABBA, Cruyff, Lillee, the Chappells and Bjorn Borg will all make comebacks also. We'll all start swinging a lot more also: car keys in the ash tray. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 14 minutes ago, AtariLegend said: Tories win; The poor/disabled/old/unemployed get hit in the head with a shovel MPs bang about immigrants and foreigners, despite them being in charge of the policies Cuts to public spending/services and more austerity Tax breaks for the rich Help the Americans in the middle east and sell weapons to the Saudis Wet dreams of making 1984 a reality Less workers rights Labour win; The poor/disabled/old/unemployed don't get hit in the head with a shovel Brexit (it's debatable) More public spending and more on services, nationalization of services such as rail for example Tax increases for the rich Foreign policy questionable, but less likely to give into Americas middle east whims More power to unions But surely if Tories in then immigrants are out. I saw saw the mayor of London. He white, player. He whiter me! That's a good point, I've hung up with indian public school boys who are white. I'm ghetto as fuck though. I've got this feeling poor disabled and old get fucked by everyone. Your off the map. Past 40 you don't count. Ah I see though, Tories won't spend on us, they will try to turn the plane around but will pay themselves to do it. Labour will tax the rich a little more to pay for my welfare. Labour not getting in on the nukes would be costly. Unions could be a drain. I feel like being corrupt is the future, so Labour aren't the option. Trying to be all worthy is going to get us invade by France. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) 15 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: ABBA, Cruyff, Lillee, the Chappells and Bjorn Borg will all make comebacks also. We'll all start swinging a lot more also: car keys in the ash tray. Basically retro 70s with an electric fence to keep the future out. The Beatles are from Liverpool. Let it be known! Edited June 1, 2017 by wasted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, wasted said: Basically retro 70s with an electric fence to keep the future out. The Beatles are from Liverpool. Let it be known! Speaking seriously Corbyn is a Bennite. Expect aggrandisement of the unions, anti-corporate legislation, disarmament/pacifism and a (partial or full) withdrawal from the Anglo-American relationship (e.g. NATO) and the European Union. Theresa May seems to be espousing Disraelian 'One-Nationist Conservatism' which has not really been a force in the Tory echelons since before Thatcher, but who knows as she is rather flakey and was in Cameron's 'austerity governments'. I'm not really sure if she was ever really regarded as a one-nationist hitherto - it may just be a vote grabber. She now supports the result of the European Union referendum also, although she voted 'remain' so is rather carrying the mandate of the plebiscite, i.e., 'enacting the people's will' (that is at least how she has re-branded herself). Edited June 1, 2017 by DieselDaisy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gracii Guns Posted June 1, 2017 Author Share Posted June 1, 2017 Giving this a shot… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLegend Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 2 hours ago, Gracii Guns said: Giving this a shot… Sorry . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLegend Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 (edited) Supposedly as of tonight (tbc) May isn't doing any local interviews ect. Everyone else is, she's rejecting requests. So outside of the Question Time special, she'll be avoiding actual human beings. She's still got Dacre and Murdoch though... I'm sure the headlines the day before the election won't disappoint. My bet's on "CORBYN INVOLVED IN LEFTY PLOT TO KILL PRINCESS DIANNA", although they might go for the Madeline McCann angle instead. Edited June 2, 2017 by AtariLegend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 7 hours ago, AtariLegend said: ''A whip, nude pic & knob hall'' haha. Got to love The Sun. 7 hours ago, AtariLegend said: She's still got Dacre and Murdoch though... The Times, Murdoch, actually seem to be anti-conservatives in many aspects; there were two-three anti-May columns in yesterday's edition. Why do you keep leaving out the papers supporting Corbyn? The Guardian, Mirror, Morning Star? You're acting like Corbyn has not got his (media) supporters, and that the whole of the printing press is allied against him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLegend Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 19 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: ''A whip, nude pic & knob hall'' haha. Got to love The Sun. The Times, Murdoch, actually seem to be anti-conservatives in many aspects; there were two-three anti-May columns in yesterday's edition. Why do you keep leaving out the papers supporting Corbyn? The Guardian, Mirror, Morning Star? You're acting like Corbyn has not got his (media) supporters, and that the whole of the printing press is allied against him! First of all The Guardian/Mirror sure okay, I'll give you that. The Guardian however outside of newspaper reviews on TV and Uni campus's, isn't exactly in high circulation. The reach of the Guardian is less than a 10th of The Sun for example. The FT has more readers than the Guardian, in fact the only notable publication in the UK that's less read is The Independent (which is online now). Mourning Star? This forum has almost many active users as the Star has readers, most people wouldn't even know what it was if people like you didn't bring it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 19 hours ago, DieselDaisy said: Speaking seriously Corbyn is a Bennite. Expect aggrandisement of the unions, anti-corporate legislation, disarmament/pacifism and a (partial or full) withdrawal from the Anglo-American relationship (e.g. NATO) and the European Union. Theresa May seems to be espousing Disraelian 'One-Nationist Conservatism' which has not really been a force in the Tory echelons since before Thatcher, but who knows as she is rather flakey and was in Cameron's 'austerity governments'. I'm not really sure if she was ever really regarded as a one-nationist hitherto - it may just be a vote grabber. She now supports the result of the European Union referendum also, although she voted 'remain' so is rather carrying the mandate of the plebiscite, i.e., 'enacting the people's will' (that is at least how she has re-branded herself). Vote Labour, hope the Tories get in then as always. I always agree more with liberal policies, but they go tits up when reality bites/rears it's ugly head. We keep chopping and changing so much like the Tinker Man. I wonder if the razzmatazz of politics is distracting us from the actual concept of work. In a way I'm all for that in the corrupt times we live in. If you can slack off for a few months you might as well because this train is going to the gas chambers anyway. I need a picture analysis before I make a decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLegend Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 (edited) I really hope the yougov poll is right (even though I doubt it). Rudd is marginally behind in her own seat. Nick Clegg too! https://yougov.co.uk/uk-general-election-2017/ Edited June 2, 2017 by AtariLegend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLegend Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 This is a ridiculous question time. It's an audience told to clap every question/answer She's just spouting sound bites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 11 hours ago, AtariLegend said: First of all The Guardian/Mirror sure okay, I'll give you that. The Guardian however outside of newspaper reviews on TV and Uni campus's, isn't exactly in high circulation. The reach of the Guardian is less than a 10th of The Sun for example. The FT has more readers than the Guardian, in fact the only notable publication in the UK that's less read is The Independent (which is online now). Mourning Star? This forum has almost many active users as the Star has readers, most people wouldn't even know what it was if people like you didn't bring it up. Maybe the papers you attack have a wide circulation because readers agree with the content? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLegend Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 (edited) Corby... it was going good until the Tory voters kept going on about Trident. That's what the headlines will be, it's a shame he couldn't just say if he had to use them in a nuclear war we'd all die anyway. He probably would be ahead in the polls if he lied and said he'd launch a preemptive nuclear strike on France. Worried the Tories won tonight! So much for closing polls. Edited June 2, 2017 by AtariLegend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 That nuclear thing was so ridiculous it was almost hilarious. When was the last time there was huge nuclear bombing? WWII? I guess those guys who asked those questions live a bunker just in case there is a nuclear war. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Your beardo lefty got trounced I take it judging by your bitter replies, the two of you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 1 minute ago, DieselDaisy said: Your beardo lefty got trounced I take it judging by your bitter replies, the two of you? The exchanged was too exagerate. Those guys were asking about the nuke like the UK was already at war. They seemed too corcerned and too scared of a nuclear attack. They ended up making a huge deal over an hypothetical situation. When Thatcher dropped nuke on another country? But they want Corbyn to do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Just now, Padme said: The exchanged was too exagerate. Those guys were asking about the nuke like the UK was already at war. They seemed too corcerned and too scared of a nuclear attack. They ended up making a huge deal over an hypothetical situation. When Thatcher dropped nuke on another country? But they want Corbyn to do it? Well I didn't watch the debate as I'd rather stick knitting needles in my testicles than watch either of those two, but that is rather the whole point of possessing a weapon, to be willing to pull the trigger! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Just now, DieselDaisy said: Well I didn't watch the debate as I'd rather stick knitting needles in my testicles than watch either of those two, but that is rather the whole point of possessing a weapon, to be willing to pull the trigger! They asked him would you let North Korea or Iran to drop nukes? Corbyn said "Of course I wouldn't!" Isn't that enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Just now, Padme said: They asked him would you let North Korea or Iran to drop nukes? Corbyn said "Of course I wouldn't!" Isn't that enough? He is supporter of terrorist groups who have killed and maimed women and children. I think I'd allow the general public their suspicion on his willingness to defend Britain this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLegend Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Padme said: The exchanged was too exagerate. Those guys were asking about the nuke like the UK was already at war. They seemed too corcerned and too scared of a nuclear attack. They ended up making a huge deal over an hypothetical situation. When Thatcher dropped nuke on another country? But they want Corbyn to do it? It really bothered me that literally no questions were answered tonight. May dodged everything on the NHS and switched the question to mental health. Corbyn spent more than half the allotted time answering silly questions, very little on actual policy. May should have been asked about the investigatory powers act, pushed on the fact that she was home sectary over the past several years. I think the Trident nonsense might actually end the campaign though. I agree with his stance, but he did not answer it well and it went on far too long. Then there's the people in business owner in the audience that doesn't a higher national min wage and the random guy who supports zero hour contracts and no rights. These things things aren't reflective of the public, they're reflective of things tabloids support. I almost surprised someone didn't criticize him for being against Fox Hunting. Edited June 2, 2017 by AtariLegend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: He is supporter of terrorist groups who have killed and maimed women and children. I think I'd allow the general public their suspicion on his willingness to defend Britain this time. On that question he said that during peace talks you have to meet with people you don't agree with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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