comboguns Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I read on some sites that it was recorded in buenos aires , on december 5th , 1992, but I was listening to some bootlegs from 1992 and 1993 and none sounds likes this version on live era. It looks like it was a completely studio version with some live parts here and there, or it was from some show that we dont have a bootleg recording, like las vegas 1992. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseCDII Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Uh oh, time for another Live Era discussion... To answer your question, the bulk of the songs on Live Era were overdubbed by Axl in '99. That's why they don't sound like their respective live counterparts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendez Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 2 hours ago, AxlRoseCDII said: Uh oh, time for another Live Era discussion... Well what else do you expect anyone to talk about, the new setlist? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comboguns Posted May 9, 2017 Author Share Posted May 9, 2017 2 hours ago, AxlRoseCDII said: Uh oh, time for another Live Era discussion... To answer your question, the bulk of the songs on Live Era were overdubbed by Axl in '99. That's why they don't sound like their respective live counterparts. I know, but the instrumentals parts are totally different of any bootleg I heard, so I think 90% of the instruments of this song were re-recorded or are pieces of several shows put together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 The versions of Jungle and You're Crazy on Live Era are not only overdubbed but also sped up slightly in pitch. If you try playing along to those songs on guitar that are perfectly tuned to Eb standard, you will see that the recordings are running a bit sharper. So its possible the Axl vocal overdubs and the pitch variations play a part in the different vibe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, WhazUp said: The versions of Jungle and You're Crazy on Live Era are not only overdubbed but also sped up slightly in pitch. If you try playing along to those songs on guitar that are perfectly tuned to Eb standard, you will see that the recordings are running a bit sharper. So its possible the Axl vocal overdubs and the pitch variations play a part in the different vibe Interesting! I never noticed that, I'll have to check it out! ...although maybe check your intonation just in case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comboguns Posted May 10, 2017 Author Share Posted May 10, 2017 I am trying to solve this mistery, where the parts they put together come from? some guitar parts looks similar to some 1993 shows, other like the 1992 era, others looks like they re-recorded the bass and the guitars on studio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 19 minutes ago, Tom2112 said: Interesting! I never noticed that, I'll have to check it out! ...although maybe check your intonation just in case Just double checked! Haha the easy test is to play along with the studio version and the Live Era version back to back, the Live Era version is definitely not tuned to A=440 so there was definitely some super super slight tempering with the speed of the tunes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comboguns Posted May 10, 2017 Author Share Posted May 10, 2017 the intro of this song when axl screams "do you know where the fuck you are? etc etc, looks like a totally re recorded version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 (edited) 22 minutes ago, comboguns said: I am trying to solve this mistery, where the parts they put together come from? some guitar parts looks similar to some 1993 shows, other like the 1992 era, others looks like they re-recorded the bass and the guitars on studio. That is probably going to remain a mystery unless somewhere in the vaults there are in-studio notes of where every single part of every multitrack is sourced from, although the Axl vocal overdubs are the obvious ones to conclude because of how different he sounds. In regards to what guitar parts came from what shows, if they are indeed flown in from various sources both live and in studio it will be nearly impossible to track down the source of every minor change Edited May 10, 2017 by WhazUp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 All of the above kinda dumbs down the whole "Live" part of 'Live Era". I still like that album/CD though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comboguns Posted May 10, 2017 Author Share Posted May 10, 2017 Live era and chinese democracy are the most intriguing gnr albums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 7 hours ago, comboguns said: I read on some sites that it was recorded in buenos aires , on december 5th , 1992, but I was listening to some bootlegs from 1992 and 1993 and none sounds likes this version on live era. It looks like it was a completely studio version with some live parts here and there, or it was from some show that we dont have a bootleg recording, like las vegas 1992. its likely from whatever stupid live show from 1992 -- except for axl voice which is re-recorded on studio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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