janrichmond Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Are any of you guys published authors? @wasted @Apollo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 54 minutes ago, janrichmond said: Are any of you guys published authors? @wasted @Apollo Not really I put things up on Amazon via Kindle Direct Publishing. I did get 4 of my stories published on webzines like Thirstforfire.com and Rage magazine, you get like $10 a story. I just do it for fun really. Stephen Kimg writes about 3 books a year. I might finish one story a year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 http://www.ralan.com/m.pro.htm This site you can normally find somewhere to submit to. I found after you have a few accepted, it's like ah so what. It's much harder to sell a novel to a big publisher. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 (edited) For example for the guy trying to write Fantasy http://www.heroicfantasyquarterly.com/?page_id=39 maybe not an exact fit but there's probably something on Ralan. Also what I started to do was find places I wanted to submit to then write something with that in mind. Or change what you have. 1,500 words, include aspects they want. Actual real writers don't write without a deal. An agent will tell you never send a publisher anything. Send an outline of what you propose. If they agree to pay you, then write it. But Ingenerally just write something them try to find a home for it after. Just for fun. I mean 3 cents a word, go fuck yourself! Edited July 10, 2017 by wasted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlsFavoriteRose Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 does being published in a now defunct 'zine count? i actually have the article from the zine on one of my dead laptaps, if they are ever revivied i can print it here. it was about seeing Adam Lambert in concert at Thunder Valley Casino in Cali. great show he put on! i was going to do one about Maroon 5 during my Adam Levine crush but it might go a little like" Trying to sing along to "I won't go home without you" but drunk girl has herself draped across me" or "Oh i love this song, want to dance to it but drunk girl keeps screaming in my ear to dance while i am already dancing". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 2 hours ago, janrichmond said: Are any of you guys published authors? @wasted @Apollo I was a newspaper man for most of my young adulthood, so I've been published in every newspaper in my home state. Plus have had stories published in the Seattle PI and a few other Washington newspapers. I wrote a history book that was regionally specific. It ended up selling more than 1,500 copies at $20 apiece. I donated the profits to my local high school. I got paid for it and it was published by a real company (as opposed to self publishing). I have probably ten fiction novels sitting in my "vault" ala Axl. Someday I will try and do something with them. I love writing. But hate hate and hate editing. Hate it with a passion. Self publishing (and Amazon) is great and horrible all at the same time. It's great as it gives every body the option of being a "published" author. It's horrible because it gives anybody the option to publish a book. So the market is flooded with books that haven't been properly vetted. Since everybody and their brother fancys themselves as being a writer, the market is just flooded with thousands of books that are actually pure shit. Talented writers have to fight tooth and nail to get their stories recognized in an ocean full of crap Books that would have been laughed at and quickly rejected by a publisher are now self published and put on Amazon. So it's a double edged sword for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 You should put your vault on KDP. There's actually a lot of books on Amazon that weren't actually written by the author either. They pay others to write stories which they secure the rights to and then spend more time and money promoting them. It's a weird scam. I use KFP really just as part of a creative process. As in when it's done put a cover on it and post it up. It's a kind of closure. The stories were sold to magazines and webzines first though. But they are all there collected. Also you can sell it as a paperback and get an ISBN. So that's where you can point publishers to or I've got freelance editing work and writing work based on them as examples on my cv. The dream was you have 99 cent Kindle bestseller without having a publisher. But now Publishers have moved in and put their writers on Kindle direct as new writers and use the forums and promo tools to promo the artist. I use it more as my vault. The paperback option is a good way to print off 10 copies which you can put in a second hand book store or just give to people. Turn up to your high school reunion with a box of signed copies and a shotgun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 1 hour ago, AxlsFavoriteRose said: does being published in a now defunct 'zine count? i actually have the article from the zine on one of my dead laptaps, if they are ever revivied i can print it here. it was about seeing Adam Lambert in concert at Thunder Valley Casino in Cali. great show he put on! i was going to do one about Maroon 5 during my Adam Levine crush but it might go a little like" Trying to sing along to "I won't go home without you" but drunk girl has herself draped across me" or "Oh i love this song, want to dance to it but drunk girl keeps screaming in my ear to dance while i am already dancing". I think a lot of zines go defunct or move sites, change names. I've wondered what it means. As it's more to do with do you fit the sites wants. I think anyone could write something good, it's just King or whoever are prolific and relentless. It's to know if the editor of a zine really knows or wants good. some people just like writing for zines. It's crazy how little money there is in it and how many people do it. But there's still a market for very specific niches. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlsFavoriteRose Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 1 minute ago, wasted said: I think a lot of zines go defunct or move sites, change names. I've wondered what it means. As it's more to do with do you fit the sites wants. I think anyone could write something good, it's just King or whoever are prolific and relentless. It's to know if the editor of a zine really knows or wants good. some people just like writing for zines. It's crazy how little money there is in it and how many people do it. But there's still a market for very specific niches. aside from college newsletters it's been the most recent thing i've had published! i have a LOT of ideas now, things i have saved that could be dynamite! i even have a working title but mum's the word on what it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 1 hour ago, AxlsFavoriteRose said: does being published in a now defunct 'zine count? i actually have the article from the zine on one of my dead laptaps, if they are ever revivied i can print it here. it was about seeing Adam Lambert in concert at Thunder Valley Casino in Cali. great show he put on! i was going to do one about Maroon 5 during my Adam Levine crush but it might go a little like" Trying to sing along to "I won't go home without you" but drunk girl has herself draped across me" or "Oh i love this song, want to dance to it but drunk girl keeps screaming in my ear to dance while i am already dancing". Sure it counts, some people write for zines because the mainstream publishers are too constricting. There's a lot niche markets, and instead of writing stuff that sells they would rather or just love writing more "esoteric" stuff. The lesbian vampire market is huge. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 1 minute ago, AxlsFavoriteRose said: aside from college newsletters it's been the most recent thing i've had published! i have a LOT of ideas now, things i have saved that could be dynamite! i even have a working title but mum's the word on what it is I've got nothing but this novella done, just don't know what to do with it. I'm writing short stories to order online but they get the rights and tell me what they want. It's only slightly more interesting than data entry or SEO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlsFavoriteRose Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Just now, wasted said: Sure it counts, some people write for zines because the mainstream publishers are too constricting. There's a lot niche markets, and instead of writing stuff that sells they would rather or just love writing more "esoteric" stuff. The lesbian vampire market is huge. this is the weird thing. i didn't write it for anyone but i posted in on the Adam Lambert IMDB page and some chick asked if she could put it in her 'zine. she was a cool chick ( we are all "Glamberts" ) so i said sure. like two years later i discovered Facebook and the first person who came along that i knew was my BFF from my high school days. she is, of course, famous. speaks four language, her Spanish husband is a revered and prolific professor, both her sons have bright shining futures and all i have is ...well some chick put me in her 'zine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlsFavoriteRose Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, wasted said: I've got nothing but this novella done, just don't know what to do with it. I'm writing short stories to order online but they get the rights and tell me what they want. It's only slightly more interesting than data entry or SEO. that sounds better than the fan fictions my twitter friends keep sending me to read. in desperation i ALMOST wrote a fan fiction of the last season of Dexter because even a brain damaged monkey could have done better than the writers who ended it, but in my search i actually may have found my writing twin who wrote EXACTLY what i'd have written if she hadn't. strive forward! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 (edited) 28 minutes ago, AxlsFavoriteRose said: that sounds better than the fan fictions my twitter friends keep sending me to read. in desperation i ALMOST wrote a fan fiction of the last season of Dexter because even a brain damaged monkey could have done better than the writers who ended it, but in my search i actually may have found my writing twin who wrote EXACTLY what i'd have written if she hadn't. strive forward! I did start re writing the ending of True Detective season 1. The boat could have gone up the river and those two dumb cops put it together and just as Rust is about be forced to sacrifice Mickey's two kids to Yellow King (Mickey's wife) they would storm the abandoned barn. Everyone in the show is part of conspiracy and all clues are recapped Usual Suspect style. Edited July 11, 2017 by wasted 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlsFavoriteRose Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 we should be writing this!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 20 minutes ago, Oldest Goat said: Oooh, I have no professional experience, whatsoever...hire me? Seriously though I do love editing. I don't understand why you wouldn't. If you go on Upwork dot com you can find someone to edit your stuff for 10-20 dollars a book. Get some college student to polish your shit for less than the minimum wage. Or get work editing stuff. But yeah nobody is going to buy it so any money you put in is a loss. So it's like enjoy the creative product but keep the overheads at zero or keep it loocked in a warehouse chinese democracy style. This book belongs in a museum Short round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 17 minutes ago, AxlsFavoriteRose said: we should be writing this!!! You mean TD Alt ending. I shouldve at the time when I was into it. Now I can't remember the characters or red herrings. I think it was Mickey and Rust on that boat and they tie up that cop and torture him to find something out. But really Mickey should have knocked Rust out and met up with that river boat full of kids. Then they go to some mansion where they are burning crosses. Everyone assembles in the barn. Rust is being slow roasted on a spit as the kids are led into be executed by Mickey's wife. Just before anything those two cops burst in and start shooting, Rust frees himself and he starts fist fighting Mickey both of them are on fire as they fight. Swat turns up and opens the doors as the kids flood out. The all the town officials and pillars of society are arested. Rust has solved the case, everyone leaves and he's left alone with burning barn and the fire fighter. Roll credits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlsFavoriteRose Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 8 minutes ago, wasted said: You mean TD Alt ending. I shouldve at the time when I was into it. Now I can't remember the characters or red herrings. I think it was Mickey and Rust on that boat and they tie up that cop and torture him to find something out. But really Mickey should have knocked Rust out and met up with that river boat full of kids. Then they go to some mansion where they are burning crosses. Everyone assembles in the barn. Rust is being slow roasted on a spit as the kids are led into be executed by Mickey's wife. Just before anything those two cops burst in and start shooting, Rust frees himself and he starts fist fighting Mickey both of them are on fire as they fight. Swat turns up and opens the doors as the kids flood out. The all the town officials and pillars of society are arested. Rust has solved the case, everyone leaves and he's left alone with burning barn and the fire fighter. Roll credits. yeah that's what i mean.how much do they get paid?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, AxlsFavoriteRose said: yeah that's what i mean.how much do they get paid?? Who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlsFavoriteRose Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Just now, wasted said: Who? You mean TD Alt ending. people who can write alternate endings. i mean just to mention LaLaLand i have a a GREAT alt ending for that sucker! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, AxlsFavoriteRose said: You mean TD Alt ending. people who can write alternate endings. i mean just to mention LaLaLand i have a a GREAT alt ending for that sucker! Oh I've never seen that offered. Generally the pay is humiliatingly low. People want you to write a 50k word story for $60 sometimes. But if you can draft a novel $1,500. But I'll search for fan fiction markets. Edited July 11, 2017 by wasted 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlsFavoriteRose Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, wasted said: Oh I've never seen that offered. Generally the pay is humiliatingly low. People want you to write a 50k word story for $60 sometimes. But if you can draft a novel $1,500. But I'll search for fan fiction markets. that wold be cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 https://m.fanfiction.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlsFavoriteRose Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 1 minute ago, wasted said: https://m.fanfiction.net wow those figures are kind of amazing. imagining myself curing Satine of TB at the last moment...thanks! that is so amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 If you have something short you want to publish https://flashfictionmagazine.com/submissions/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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