Hollywood Gunner Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 not really gonna take anything fortus says about new material too seriously cuz hes mentionned it before. maybe there was supposed to be a CD2 but the reunion threw a monkey wrench into the plans. who knows. im hopeful but not that optimistic at this point... until one of the big 3 say anything im not really gonna take any of this too seriously but a (good) radio single will put this band over the top again and im pretty sure they all know it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanity_lost Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 How about instead of using "New" in the topic headline we use the date? I thought this was the last "New" interview for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post todreamofwolves Posted June 3, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2017 This thread should have been titled "More bullshit from Richard Fortus", because that's exactly what it was. And what's with this repetitive "Axl's genius" drivel? Axl hasn't created anything relevant since 1991. It doesn't take a genius to tour the same material for 2 and a half decades and cut other classic era members out over money. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modano09 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 The thing that gives me hope is that this is the Axl/Slash/Duff machine and no detail about this seems to have been left to chance. There seems to have been thought and effort put into every aspect of this. The hired guitarist isn't going to be suggesting a new album is coming unless he's under the impression it's something they're planning on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourettes2400 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Same old shit he always says. Until I have it in my hands, it is just another lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live Like a Suicide Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 (edited) Can we really blame Fortus though? He's the most accessible member of the band, and he's almost always the one to field these questions. What more can he say if Axl and co don't even know what they're doing? We must also remember that from at least 2014, things have been in a state of flux and likely unpredictable as far as touring and new music are concerned. Edited June 3, 2017 by Live Like a Suicide 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikki_Sixx Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 13 hours ago, Modano09 said: There's no way Fortus is saying that if it's not a real possibility. There's no way Fortus has any clue of what the fuck is going on with this 'band' ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikki_Sixx Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 10 hours ago, AxlRoseCDII said: Literally the talk of every band member including Duff and Slash post '93. Right... I'm sure Duff and Slash have been getting a lot of questions about new GNR recordings post '93. They weren't even in the band for over 20 of those years... Fortus has been saying the same shit for 15 years. At least Duff and Slash have the decency to just say nothing at all ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Rose Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 12 hours ago, Stress Fracture said: If everything he said came to pass, we'd be on about the third follow-up to CD by now. If Axl's original vision and dream had come to pass we'd be way past that. I know he's disowned his London '02 prophecy and the statement about phasing out the old material for new songs over the next year ('02 - '03) but it's still sad to think that back then he really wanted to prove what he could do and be a productive artist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacdaniel Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 This band is not Nu Guns so its not really fair to compare it. The management / record label never really had an interest in Nu Guns and were always hoping for a reunion with Slash. Axl also seemed to be a lot more insecure in Nu Guns. I think deep down he knew he had little public support and whatever support he had was going downhill by the time they were playing bowling alleys. He probably knew a new album with DJ wasn't the best idea. He also probably knew that people leaving the band made it less credible each time. He seemed to be going through the motions from 2011 onwards. It was probably more of a job / paycheck than something he was enjoying. Things are so much different now. The reunion has huge public support. They are playing to huge crowds every other night. Axl looks to be very confident. Slash and Duff have probably taken a large amount of pressure off his shoulders. Axl said he played music for Slash / Duff and they liked it. Now Fortus said they've recorded some stuff while on the road. (not in the studio). We know that Management / labels would probably love a new album. Its unfair to compare this version of the band and things said to Nu Guns, who were clearly going nowhere...especially between 2011 - 2014 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 (edited) 12 hours ago, DieselDaisy said: I've never known a band so averse to writing and recording. at this point its pretty safe to say that no writing/recording/releasing anything is axl's fault everyone writes, records and releases stuff outside axl's band -- even the aliens remove the aliens and get izzy with a decent drummer and these guys can write an GNR album in two weeks they actually did that a couple of times on the last two decades, including the pre-VR days when izzy joined slash, duff and matt for 2 weeks === so many bad calls have been preventing slash/izzy/duff (instrumental or axl-less GNR) to exist we know now that the "genius" scott weiland rejected the songs slash and duff wrote with izzy on the "project" we know now that slash rejected izzy's idea for the (pre-VR) "the project" to have izzy and duff singing lead vocals any of these would be fantastic and likely a million times better songwise than VR or axl solo career it is easy to imagine that an izzy/slash/duff/matt band or a VR playing/recording/releasing izzy songs would outdo axl solo career really fast (a bit like Bruce outdid Bruce-less Maiden or Halford outdid Halford-less Judas Priest) had any of that happened, it would likely provide an ideal scenario for an actual reunion tour in wich (these are much better circunstances) axl wouldnt be able to call the shots like he is doing right now we would likely have had an actual reunion (no aliens except maybe dizzy) 5 or 10 years earlier izzy would be involved as an equal member with a say on every decision maybe even new music would be pouring out of them, who knows? well, guess none of that "if" scenarios matter anyway === the one thing i am sure of is that izzy, slash, duff and a drummer can write a GNR album in two weeks. i am also sure that if axl decides that he wants it, he can join in, be part of it and -- likely -- take it to another level Edited June 3, 2017 by ludurigan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
default_ Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 14 hours ago, AxlRoseCDII said: Literally the talk of every band member including Duff and Slash post '93. There might be truth to all this, but then we have the Axl factor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseCDII Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 4 hours ago, Nikki_Sixx said: Right... I'm sure Duff and Slash have been getting a lot of questions about new GNR recordings post '93. They weren't even in the band for over 20 of those years... Fortus has been saying the same shit for 15 years. At least Duff and Slash have the decency to just say nothing at all ! I was referring to 93-97 era where Slash and Duff were talking about the follow up to illusions, but alright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 When talking about Guns news Fortus always sounds like a hostage making a ransom tape; where they're instructed to act like they themselves are making the demand but, trembling lightly, they keep glancing to just off camera where you just know a big person with a gun is coaxing them along. To my ears he was smoother and less stunted here, but still choppy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zurimor Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Well, Richard it totally right about at least one thing, the situation is too good not to release anything. They should do it soon and not stretch the tour too long. If not now, then never, there'll probably be no better situation to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todreamofwolves Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, jacdaniel said: This band is not Nu Guns so its not really fair to compare it. Its unfair to compare this version of the band and things said to Nu Guns, who were clearly going nowhere...especially between 2011 - 2014 Oh please. Other than Slash and Duff being back in the mix, and more people actually attending the shows, there's not all that much difference between 2011-2014 & 2016-2017, IF you set the fanboy bias aside. It's STILL not really GNR because Izzy and Steven aren't involved, it's STILL Axl + the employees (only now Slash and Duff are employees too), the set lists are STILL damn near identical, band members STILL don't talk, and if they do they STILL only make vague puppet-like statements, there's STILL no new album of material, and Axl STILL sounds pretty weak from a vocal standpoint. SO, I'll ask again, just how different is this current band from the 2011-2014 band, other than Axl & Slash both selling out so they could fatten their wallets to match their waist size? Edited June 3, 2017 by todreamofwolves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunset Gardner Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 the only part of fortus' words I believe for certain are that things are going well between the three gnr members and the holdover hired employees from axl's solo band. it's just undeniable that axl is a better, stronger, more confident performer in the presence of his two real band mates. One would hope all this positive energy would snowball into a new record... it'd be totally realistic if it was anybody else on earth beside axl rose. but I'm rooting for axl. he's got a tattoo of "mojo" on his leg. I hope he gets his back before his voice leaves him completely. and get rid of the employees... there's a rumor that izzy, Steven and Matt are all available. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modano09 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 6 hours ago, jacdaniel said: This band is not Nu Guns so its not really fair to compare it. The management / record label never really had an interest in Nu Guns and were always hoping for a reunion with Slash. Axl also seemed to be a lot more insecure in Nu Guns. I think deep down he knew he had little public support and whatever support he had was going downhill by the time they were playing bowling alleys. He probably knew a new album with DJ wasn't the best idea. He also probably knew that people leaving the band made it less credible each time. He seemed to be going through the motions from 2011 onwards. It was probably more of a job / paycheck than something he was enjoying. Things are so much different now. The reunion has huge public support. They are playing to huge crowds every other night. Axl looks to be very confident. Slash and Duff have probably taken a large amount of pressure off his shoulders. Axl said he played music for Slash / Duff and they liked it. Now Fortus said they've recorded some stuff while on the road. (not in the studio). We know that Management / labels would probably love a new album. Its unfair to compare this version of the band and things said to Nu Guns, who were clearly going nowhere...especially between 2011 - 2014 With the money this tour is making, I imagine a record company would release anything they can slap the classic logo onto and get onto shelves ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modano09 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, todreamofwolves said: Oh please. Other than Slash and Duff being back in the mix, and more people actually attending the shows, there's not all that much difference between 2011-2014 & 2016-2017, IF you set the fanboy bias aside. It's STILL not really GNR because Izzy and Steven aren't involved, it's STILL Axl + the employees (only now Slash and Duff are employees too), the set lists are STILL damn near identical, band members STILL don't talk, and if they do they STILL only make vague puppet-like statements, there's STILL no new album of material, and Axl STILL sounds pretty weak from a vocal standpoint. SO, I'll ask again, just how different is this current band from the 2011-2014 band, other than Axl & Slash both selling out so they could fatten their wallets to match their waist size? Slash and Duff being back is a major difference, don't undersell it. Everything this reunion/tour has been professional. From the Troubadour show, to the merchandise, to them wearing nostalgic t-shirts/clothes on stage, there's been a lot of thought and detail put into this that wasn't there before. They're touring the world and filling stadiums, on the back of little more than "Slash is back now". They didn't have to talk, they didn't have to tell their story, all they had to do was get the world out that it was "real" GNR and now they're in stadiums and receiving offers to continue touring the world. And, to the people filling those stadiums, Axl/Slash is "real" GNR. A record company would be 100% behind releasing a GNR album if one was turned into them in the near future and Duff/Slash being in the band increases the chances of that happening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunset Gardner Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, todreamofwolves said: Oh please. Other than Slash and Duff being back in the mix, and more people actually attending the shows, there's not all that much difference between 2011-2014 & 2016-2017, IF you set the fanboy bias aside. It's STILL not really GNR because Izzy and Steven aren't involved, it's STILL Axl + the employees (only now Slash and Duff are employees too), the set lists are STILL damn near identical, band members STILL don't talk, and if they do they STILL only make vague puppet-like statements, there's STILL no new album of material, Axl STILL sounds pretty weak from a vocal standpoint. SO, I'll ask again, just how different is this current band from the 2011-2014 band, other than Axl & Slash both selling out so they could fatten their wallets to match their waist size? really the only part of this I would debate is that I don't believe slash and duff are employees. I think it was axl's lucky day they agreed to play with him again, and I believe axl is reminded of this every day when he sees the size of the stage, the venue, the masses that are turning out, not to mention his paycheck, there's no longer any question axl was kidding himself and the "fans" who went along with his fake gnr "lineups". I think the illusion that they are employees is created by the fact they are constantly appeasing axl as to not upset him, i.e. playing CD songs so they, and we, can watch axl masterbate. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlsFavoriteRose Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 1 hour ago, soon said: When talking about Guns news Fortus always sounds like a hostage making a ransom tape; where they're instructed to act like they themselves are making the demand but, trembling lightly, they keep glancing to just off camera where you just know a big person with a gun is coaxing them along. To my ears he was smoother and less stunted here, but still choppy. dang that was so funny! love this post my friend 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 22 hours ago, Silent Jay said: Disappointing. Glad they enjoy touring the oldies so much. Well yeah, that way everybody gets to see them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1989 Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Didn't Axl say that a new album would defo be coming but didn't know if slash would play on it ? This was at the press conference he did when he was in London with Axl/DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zurimor Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Think you're right about this: http://www.nme.com/news/music/guns-n-roses-13-1188656 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoymatic Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 to me, this is good news. i personally dont recall anyone in the band saying specifically "yes, new music will be recorded an released" axl has said they have been working on new ideas for music, and so has rich. the interviewer asked and richard gave him a straight up answer to a new album...YES 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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