Izzymacbeth Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 (edited) Hey guys, was wondering today how Dizzy feels about all this NITL thing having stood by all lineups, consistently saying how each was 'the best' or something to that effect then Duff and Slash return he's nowhere in promotional shots etc. To get excited for the Slane show I watched the Robert John Photographic History documentary and he was talking in 93 about how Robert's been around forever etc as though Dizzy had been also, we do indeed know he knew the band from earlier days but the way he was talking was strange. Do you guys see Dizzy as a band member? Do you think he's aware he's just a backing musician? He is often forgotten about when people even mention lineups of the band, they tend to just mention who the guitar players and drummers were at the time. With that said Ian McLagan, Jon Lord, Richard Wright all full respected members of their respective bands and keyboard players (sadly all passed).... So whats the deal with Dizzy? How do you feel about him with regards to membership/importance? Edited June 9, 2017 by Izzymacbeth 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson87 Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 I definitely see Dizzy as a band member. He's been in the band for 27 years. Axl said it himself in '91 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post janrichmond Posted June 4, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2017 I only ever remember him when Axl says "ladies and gentlemen Mr Dizzy [fuckin'] Reed. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 18 minutes ago, janrichmond said: I only ever remember him when Axl says "ladies and gentlemen Mr Dizzy [fuckin'] Reed. Pretty much this ^ I pretty much consider him a touring musician but an important one. In my opinion good enough to keep it a 6 man band. No need for anyone else. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendez Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 (edited) Dizzy is only ever important to me on Estranged (which he didn't even write or play on). Almost every song could be played without Dizzy and it'd sound fine, if not better. The only songs he is needed on is Axl's songs, as these are piano centric. He isn't needed on guitar centric songs Edited June 4, 2017 by Mendez 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosso Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Dizzy is way more than just a “touring member“. Even Izzy thought that he was a great addition for the band. Just now, Mendez said: Dizzy is only ever important to me on Estranged (which he didn't even write or play on). Almost every song could be played without Dizzy and it'd sound fine, if not better That's not true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendez Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Sosso said: Dizzy is way more than just a “touring member“. Even Izzy thought that he was a great addition for the band. That's not true. 22 songs from the Bilbao setlist could be played without Dizzy as they are all, with the exception of November Rain, guitar centric. And thats just my opinion, there is no truth. The only songs he is needed for are Catcher in the Rye, Prostitute, TWAT, Estranged, TIL, and Live and Let Die (The piano centric songs) Edited June 4, 2017 by Mendez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosso Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Mendez said: 22 songs from the Bilbao setlist could be played without Dizzy as they are all, with the exception of November Rain, guitar centric. And thats just my opinion, there is no truth. I enjoy his piano/keyboard on songs like Estranged, November Rain, Don't Cry, Nightrain, Paradise City, CITR, This I Love, Prostitute, etc. And the percussion he adds on WTTJ and Mr. Brownstone. Edited June 4, 2017 by Sosso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourteenbeers Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 (edited) Dizzy has said himself that Axl could fire him tomorrow, so I guess he feels like a hired hand (which he technically is) Then again he's been in the band a lot longer than Frank, Fortus or "Rock Icon" Melissa Reese. So if they are considered to be band members why not Dizzy? There are two songs where I really like Dizzy's playing: Dust'n Bones and 14 Years. The dirty honk tonk- piano really feels natural and gives the songs some edge. With ballads like NR and Don't cry the piano/keyboard playing takes the songs away from edgy rock towards more produced pop -feel. That's why I prefer the raw and rugged demo version of Don't cry and the acoustic version of NR. When it comes to his contributions in Chinese Democracy - I have listened that album so few times, that I can't even form an opinion about it. I'm a big AFD fan (my favorite album, my favorite lineup) nothing in that album's music needs keyboards or piano. No extra bells or whistles - except the cowbell of course. Edited June 4, 2017 by Fourteenbeers 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosso Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 I really like his piano on Nightrain and Think About You. But I have to say that I'm a fan from key instruments in general so it's no surprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayno Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 52 minutes ago, Sosso said: Dizzy is way more than just a “touring member“. Even Izzy thought that he was a great addition for the band. That's not true. Did he? Interesting, never heard about it. On the contrary I remember some interview where he was very vocal about being against all these Axl's line up additions. Cannot remember where exactly I read it though... Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourteenbeers Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 11 minutes ago, Rayno said: Did he? Interesting, never heard about it. On the contrary I remember some interview where he was very vocal about being against all these Axl's line up additions. Cannot remember where exactly I read it though... Just curious. It could be this... Izzy is being diplomatic. He also says that Matt was great (even though later it became obvious that he wasn't happy with Adler- Sorum swap.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayno Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Just now, Fourteenbeers said: It could be this... Izzy is being diplomatic. He also says that Matt was great (even though later it became obvious that he wasn't happy with Adler- Sorum swap.) Yeah, exactly. I mean - if it was before he left the band, I would not expect him being totally honest about these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendez Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 47 minutes ago, Fourteenbeers said: There are two songs where I really like Dizzy's playing: Dust'n Bones and 14 Years. The dirty honk tonk- piano really feels natural and gives the songs some edge. Axl plays the piano on the studio recordings of both those songs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourteenbeers Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Just now, Mendez said: Axl plays the piano on the studio recordings of both those songs But live ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendez Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Just now, Fourteenbeers said: But live ? Obviously Dizzy played them live. But Axl did the honky tonk-ness for those two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourteenbeers Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 10 minutes ago, Mendez said: Obviously Dizzy played them live. But Axl did the honky tonk-ness for those two ok, if you are referring who played them on the album, yeah I know it was Axl. I still like the piano playing in live performances too. (obviously you can hear the piano better on the album versions) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosso Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 (edited) Dizzy's contributions to UYI: I Right Next Door To Hell: -- Dust N' Bones: Piano/Organ Live And Let Die: Piano Don't Cry: -- Perfect Crime: -- You Ain't The First: -- Bad Obsession: Piano Back off Bitch: -- Double Talkin' Jive: -- November Rain: -- The Garden: -- Garden of Eden: Background vocals Don't Damn Me: Organ Bad Apples: Piano/Clavinet/Background Vocals Dead Horse: -- Coma: -- II Civil War: Piano/Background Vocals 14 Years: Organ Yesterdays: Organ Knockin' On Heaven's Door: -- Get In The Ring: Piano Shotgun Blues: -- Breakdown: -- Pretty Tied Up: Piano Locomotive: Piano So Fine: -- Estranged: -- You Could Be Mine: -- Don't Cry: -- My World: -- Edited June 4, 2017 by Sosso 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marie82 Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Dizzy is always forgotten because he hasn't been controversial. He is a band member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendez Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, Sosso said: 14 Years: Piano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Cavalerra Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 He has decent songwriting skills tho, 4 most UYI-like CD's Song has his name, TWAT, SOD, CITR, and IRS. (But goddamn Paul Yuuuugee also has credit on all that song lol) He also seems very loyal and grateful towards Axl for lifting him out of hardship. But some people say he was very rude if disturbed by fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosso Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 15 minutes ago, Mendez said: Fixed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
default_ Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Dizzy is a member and amazing in what he does. I hope he gets a bigger role if they ever releases a new album, filled with songs like 14 Years, Bad Obesession and things like the Locomotive Outro. I think he is confortable with his position, after he joined he was portrayed as a member in promotional pictures, appeared on videos, got his name on the albuns he played, I think he isnt being promoted right now because its the reunion tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnfnrs1972 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Smartest member ever to be in GNR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Sosso said: Dizzy's contributions to UYI: I Right Next Door To Hell: -- Dust N' Bones: Piano/Organ Live And Let Die: Piano Don't Cry: -- Perfect Crime: -- You Ain't The First: -- Bad Obsession: Piano Back off Bitch: -- Double Talkin' Jive: -- November Rain: -- The Garden: -- Garden of Eden: Background vocals Don't Damn Me: Organ Bad Apples: Piano/Clavinet/Background Vocals Dead Horse: -- Coma: -- II Civil War: Piano/Background Vocals 14 Years: Organ Yesterdays: Organ Knockin' On Heaven's Door: -- Get In The Ring: Piano Shotgun Blues: -- Breakdown: -- Pretty Tied Up: Piano Locomotive: Piano So Fine: -- Estranged: -- You Could Be Mine: -- Don't Cry: -- My World: -- "Contributions". Cough cough. LOL. Yeah those songs wouldn't be the same without him and his all important "contributions". JFC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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