gnfnr2k Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 3 hours ago, Freightrain said: What makes you think is fake ? I think it's legit Its fake, if it was legit it would be on some GNR import CD like all the other demos from that time period. You don't find it weird that this one demo was only found online? People need to use their brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 23 minutes ago, gnfnr2k said: Its fake, if it was legit it would be on some GNR import CD like all the other demos from that time period. You don't find it weird that this one demo was only found online? People need to use their brain. Weird maybe , imposible ?? No Maybe you should use your ears Are you gonna tell me that the intro to NR in las vegas 2001 it's not the same on that Estranged demo ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnfnr2k Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Freightrain said: Weird maybe , imposible ?? No Maybe you should use your ears Are you gonna tell me that the intro to NR in las vegas 2001 it's not the same on that Estranged demo ??? Axl played that on the making of the videos, so the person who faked it just added that becasue everyone always claimed that was this i love. FFS the person who admitted faking it said it was not real. Also listen to all the demos from that era, the estranged demo is way newer. So maybe its you that should use your ears I would believe that "demo" closing in on you is real before that estranged "demo" Also when did this demo first come out online was it after 2001? If so then your logic is even more faulty. Because the person faking it could have just copied the intro from the vegas show as well. Show me a version that was posted online before that vegas show. Edited June 24, 2017 by gnfnr2k 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoymatic Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 a few of you hooked me up a few days ago with some links to some demos but... what we need is a hub for all demos or outtakes. like a site that features demos from afd to cd... unless there already is one... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 It's not fake. It was around in the 90's and I used to have it on cassette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnfnr2k Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, killuridols said: It's not fake. It was around in the 90's and I used to have it on cassette. Sure you did LOL I have over 70 GNR imports, and have all the demos, and this was never on any of them. This piano cover never surfaced until 2003 because that is when the person who made it covered it. Edited June 26, 2017 by gnfnr2k 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 7 minutes ago, gnfnr2k said: Sure you did LOL I have over 70 GNR imports, and have all the demos, and this was never on any of them. looks like you missed that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnfnr2k Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 3 hours ago, killuridols said: looks like you missed that one You are just mistaken or lying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 4 hours ago, gnfnr2k said: This piano cover never surfaced until 2003 because that is when the person who made it covered it. Why would you believe what anyone says on the Internet? For all we know, ALL demos, outtakes, unreleased and LEAKED material could be claimed by anyone online saying they "covered" it or recorded it or whatever since the band has not claimed them either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patiencepatience Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 On 6/23/2017 at 3:03 PM, TheRipper75 said: Does any demos exist of Estranged? I'm aware of that fake "piano" one that's been around for years, but I'm just wondering if there is any genuine demos around? Estranged & Coma are my fave G N' R songs! i already have that bootleg "Axls Advance Copy" with the Use Your Illusion demos on it, here is the link https://www.dropbox.com/sh/oj8kqduip.../UBwevVIH3m?m= if anyone doesn't have it major thank you for posting a WORKING and simple way to download these tracks. I don't have axls advance just want to say thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnfnr2k Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, killuridols said: Why would you believe what anyone says on the Internet? For all we know, ALL demos, outtakes, unreleased and LEAKED material could be claimed by anyone online saying they "covered" it or recorded it or whatever since the band has not claimed them either. LOL at delusional GNR fans with logic like this. Keep believing that piano cover is Axl playing. then again some stupid GNR fans thought that song my favorite pillow was GNR LMFAO There are tons of fake leaked so-called GNR songs, but I guess you believe all those are real too right, just because of its labeled guns n roses so I guess this is a GNR demo too right Edited June 27, 2017 by gnfnr2k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estrangedtwat Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 lol. You guys are being willfully ignorant. "I've believed this piano cover really was Axl for over a decade....maybe if I wish real hard, it'll really be real!" It's FAKE. It's a COVER. No Estranged demo ever leaked. Ever. There are enough of us who used to trade bootlegs on 90 minute cassette tapes back in the 90s to know this for a FACT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 my sources say: 1. Record Plant Recording Studios - September 21, 1990 - Estranged (Instrumental) - "Ruffs with New Slash Guitar" DAT 2. Record Plant Recording Studios - January 18, 1991 - Estranged (Original Mix) AND Estranged (Q Sound Mix) - "GN'R Mixes" DAT 3. Unknown Sessions - 1991 - Estranged (Piano) - "Use Your Illusions Outtakes 2nd Edition Plus" that makes 4 demos. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estrangedtwat Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 1. Rough mixes of the studio track are not demos. 2. Rough mixes of the studio track are not demos. 3. As proven over and over and over in this thread this is fake and you're an imbecile if you believe otherwise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 I've only summarized what my sources say. thanks for being so nice. I guess it's time to share stuff somewhere else, because it seems the only thing one can receive here is insults. fair enough. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikki_Sixx Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 3 hours ago, zombux said: my sources say: 1. Record Plant Recording Studios - September 21, 1990 - Estranged (Instrumental) - "Ruffs with New Slash Guitar" DAT 2. Record Plant Recording Studios - January 18, 1991 - Estranged (Original Mix) AND Estranged (Q Sound Mix) - "GN'R Mixes" DAT 3. Unknown Sessions - 1991 - Estranged (Piano) - "Use Your Illusions Outtakes 2nd Edition Plus" that makes 4 demos. Your sources ? Do you even KNOW what a demo is ? No 'Estranged' demo has ever surfaced. There is NO 'Estranged' demo around. NOT ONE. End of discussion. Aside form the released version, there's only these two things : - The backing track that surfaced from Alan Niven's DAT's. This is instrumental. - The Q Sound mix that surfaced from Alan Niven's DAT's. This is exactly the same as the released version, only the mix differs slightly. Everything else is fake, fan-made, bullshit ... I don't know what's so hard to understand about this, and why people desperately want to believe in fairytales ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 6 hours ago, gnfnr2k said: LOL at delusional GNR fans with logic like this. Keep believing that piano cover is Axl playing. then again some stupid GNR fans thought that song my favorite pillow was GNR LMFAO There are tons of fake leaked so-called GNR songs, but I guess you believe all those are real too right, just because of its labeled guns n roses so I guess this is a GNR demo too right What the heck would you know about what I believe or not? I know there are tons of fake shit out there and not for a second I have believed they are played by GNR, neither that ridiculous "closing in on you" thing you posted there... How would anyone believe that's Axl Rose singing? Im not stupid or delusional as you are calling me and you have not demonstrated how that only piano Estranged file is "fake". All you do is saying some guy on the Internet has said he covered it and put it online. If you believe that is enough proof to deem something as fake, then you are the delusional one. Go study the scientific method at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estrangedtwat Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Driving home from work. Long day. Tired. GNR on shuffle. B-sides. Live stuff. ULTRA rare tracks. I don't fuck around. I'm a GNR mega fan, and I have the collection to prove it. Traffic light. Gonna be a long one. "Estranged demo" comes up next. Perfect. This should get me through til I'm on the freeway. Not everyone has this. Only mega fans like me. Most plebs are too clueless but I got it off Kazaa in 2004 so I know it's legit. What if it's not him. Shut up. Shut up. It's Axl. There's no vocals. So what? So fucking what? It's HIM. Listen to the way he plays. It's HIM goddamnit. The track didn't surface until after 2003 and the rest of the Illusions demos were all I SAID SHUT THE FUCK UP! It's Axl Rose if I SAY it's Axl Rose! IT'S AXL......it's Axl.....it is. It is. Ultra rare. Demo. Axl. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Every skeleton out there think of themselves as the Mega fan, number one fan, fan since 1983, fan since before the AFD5 were in the uterus and somehow this makes them also think they are some kind of authority that just by saying something will make everybody else fall on their knees and make a reverence. Proving a fact has nothing to do with ego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheRipper75 Posted June 27, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2017 Oh god, what have I started xD 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnfnr2k Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, killuridols said: What the heck would you know about what I believe or not? I know there are tons of fake shit out there and not for a second I have believed they are played by GNR, neither that ridiculous "closing in on you" thing you posted there... How would anyone believe that's Axl Rose singing? Im not stupid or delusional as you are calling me and you have not demonstrated how that only piano Estranged file is "fake". All you do is saying some guy on the Internet has said he covered it and put it online. If you believe that is enough proof to deem something as fake, then you are the delusional one. Go study the scientific method at least. 2 2 LOL Like I said the song was never on any GNR UYI demo CD in the 90s, the demo never came out until like 2003, and someone said it was them playing who had it on their channel at the time. all those things point to it being fake. But use your delusion. As for studying the scientific method if you knew anything about the scientific method you would know you have to prove it is Axl I don't have to prove it's not. That is how science works. You are acting like a creationist with oh you need to prove god doesn't exist when people say they don't believe in god. So prove this is Axl playing by showing this demo on a CD from the 90s with all the other UYI demos Edited June 27, 2017 by gnfnr2k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 19 hours ago, killuridols said: It's not fake. It was around in the 90's and I used to have it on cassette. i was around back then and this was NOT available. it became available much later! are you sure it was available in the 90s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drifter1158 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 (edited) I've got one demo, without lyrics. Check it at: https://ufile.io/fba3s Edited June 27, 2017 by Drifter1158 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Drifter1158 said: I've got one demo, without lyrics. Check it at: https://ufile.io/fba3s It's the rough mix from Alan Niven's tapes (the second video posted on the previous page of this thread). Edited June 27, 2017 by Blackstar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris 55 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 On 6/24/2017 at 6:36 AM, TheRipper75 said: There is also this instrumental floating about, dunno if it's a real demo or not It's real since it came from Alan Niven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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