RussTCB Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 I was reading a Rolling Stone article about the 100 best albums of the 90s and saw that they rated UYI II at #48, leaving UYI I off altogether. That led to me looking up the original Rolling Stone reviews of each album. I'm only half way through the UYI I review but something stuck out to me: they go on about how Don't Damn Me is the best song on the album. I love that song, but I wouldn't call it the best one on the album and I also know it's got a lot of haters out there, so I was surprised to read that. Here's the link to both reviews in case anyone else is interested:http://www.rollingstone.com/music/albumreviews/use-your-illusion-i-19911017http://www.rollingstone.com/music/albumreviews/use-your-illusion-ii-19911017 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted July 23, 2017 Author Share Posted July 23, 2017 As a side note, here's their original reviews of GN'R Lies and Chinese Democracy. Can't seem to find their original AFD review at the moment:http://www.rollingstone.com/music/albumreviews/g-n-r-lies-19890126http://www.rollingstone.com/music/albumreviews/chinese-democracy-20081127 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourettes2400 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Thanks, I had never read these before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted July 23, 2017 Author Share Posted July 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Tourettes2400 said: Thanks, I had never read these before I'm guessing I would've read them when they were new, but I couldn't remember a thing about them when I read them earlier today. I thought the Don't Damn Me thing was so interesting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 3 hours ago, RussTCB said: I was reading a Rolling Stone article about the 100 best albums of the 90s and saw that they rated UYI II at #48, leaving UYI I off altogether. That led to me looking up the original Rolling Stone reviews of each album. I'm only half way through the UYI I review but something stuck out to me: they go on about how Don't Damn Me is the best song on the album. I love that song, but I wouldn't call it the best one on the album and I also know it's got a lot of haters out there, so I was surprised to read that. Here's the link to both reviews in case anyone else is interested:http://www.rollingstone.com/music/albumreviews/use-your-illusion-i-19911017http://www.rollingstone.com/music/albumreviews/use-your-illusion-ii-19911017 Cool post! And for what it's worth Don't Damn Me has always been a personal favourite of mine. As is Bad Apples by the way. On a side-note, I always felt that both UYI I and II were collections of great songs with a few fillers thrown in. But to me they never really worked as albums. They're very long and they lack a sort of direction and coherency. Again, GREAT songs, but as albums they're all over the place. I is a bit more rock'ish and II a bit more melodic-melancholic-epic'ish. But in general incoherence is a flaw in both imo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 UYI ages better than most albums. Both deserve a new review 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted July 23, 2017 Author Share Posted July 23, 2017 2 hours ago, username said: Cool post! And for what it's worth Don't Damn Me has always been a personal favourite of mine. As is Bad Apples by the way. On a side-note, I always felt that both UYI I and II were collections of great songs with a few fillers thrown in. But to me they never really worked as albums. They're very long and they lack a sort of direction and coherency. Again, GREAT songs, but as albums they're all over the place. I is a bit more rock'ish and II a bit more melodic-melancholic-epic'ish. But in general incoherence is a flaw in both imo. Oh I agree on both Don't Damn Me and Bad Apples. I think they do work well as albums overall though. It's probably familiarity though. I'm just so used to listening to them that they flow well. If I were to listen to them with fresh ears, I bet I'd think differently though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYWIFEMYLIFE Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 UYIs are the best albums ever. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 30 minutes ago, MYWIFEMYLIFE said: UYIs are the best albums ever. But they're not even the best Guns N' Roses albums! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYWIFEMYLIFE Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Just now, DieselDaisy said: But they're not even the best Guns N' Roses albums! agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Was a great time. The build up to the release and we of course had to buy both immediately. lol. Good times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 no mention of you could be mine and pretty tied up on the UYI II review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holographic Universe Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, ludurigan said: no mention of you could be mine and pretty tied up on the UYI II review Music critics are lazy fuckers. Charlatans. He said Don't Cry was a misfire. And Axl's only good at rage or some horseshit. Album reviews are such garbage. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigpoop Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 17 hours ago, RussTCB said: Can't seem to find their original AFD review at the moment: They didn't review it. Kind of funny to think about that now but they didn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Well if he doesn't like Don't Cry he doesn't like it - it is not one of my favourites either. Reviews never claim to be anything other than subjective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holographic Universe Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: Well if he doesn't like Don't Cry he doesn't like it - it is not one of my favourites either. Reviews never claim to be anything other than subjective. Calling it a misfire and claiming Axl isn't good at such sentiment was the true misfire. These guys are similar to sports journalists, they want to be the person they are covering, and often insert little shitty judgements into thier work which doesn't help give the reader an accurate view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 18 minutes ago, The Holographic Universe said: Calling it a misfire and claiming Axl isn't good at such sentiment was the true misfire. These guys are similar to sports journalists, they want to be the person they are covering, and often insert little shitty judgements into thier work which doesn't help give the reader an accurate view. Inserting judgements into their work is rather inherent to their work I would think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 32 minutes ago, bigpoop said: They didn't review it. Kind of funny to think about that now but they didn't. Interesting. I know I read an original review about it once and I don't think it was favorable. Spin magazine perhaps? In any case, I love reading original reviews of albums I love or classics. Puts an interesting perspective on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tadsy Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Holographic Universe said: Music critics are lazy fuckers. Charlatans. He said Don't Cry was a misfire. And Axl's only good at rage or some horseshit. Album reviews are such garbage. I always thought this too! At the end of the day, it's just another opinion! and as they say, opinions are like arseholes, everyone's got one! Edited July 24, 2017 by Tadsy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristmasFnatic Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 No word on Bad Apples?! Thats the best track in the Illusions, second only to Locomotive! 12 hours ago, DieselDaisy said: But they're not even the best Guns N' Roses albums! Chi Dem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 19 minutes ago, ChristmasFnatic said: No word on Bad Apples?! Thats the best track in the Illusions, second only to Locomotive! Chi Dem? No. Spag Incident. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristmasFnatic Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 9 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: No. Spag Incident. Underrated kickass album. But I remember a couple of years ago, there was a poll here- best album. Spag got lowest votes. Chi Dem won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RONIN Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 16 hours ago, DieselDaisy said: No. Spag Incident. I know this is a trademark Diesel sarcasm post, however let's be fair and state that TSI was a return to GnR's "back to basics" approach. Perhaps not what many of us expected, but it was a return to Appetite aesthetics. It was lean, stripped down, and raw. Close to half the album is pretty good. The other half is filler I suppose but the band sounds really tight. I think Mike Clink nailed their 90's sound with TSI. Even Sorum sounds good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holographic Universe Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 (edited) 26 minutes ago, RONIN said: I know this is a trademark Diesel sarcasm post, however let's be fair and state that TSI was a return to GnR's "back to basics" approach. Perhaps not what many of us expected, but it was a return to Appetite aesthetics. It was lean, stripped down, and raw. Close to half the album is pretty good. The other half is filler I suppose but the band sounds really tight. I think Mike Clink nailed their 90's sound with TSI. Even Sorum sounds good! It is the bands best sounding album. Edited July 25, 2017 by The Holographic Universe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Appetite is their greatest sounding albums, and infact is one of the best sounding rock albums ever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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