Battlehawk Posted May 29, 2005 Author Share Posted May 29, 2005 I won't let my topic die! haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forcechangenow Posted May 29, 2005 Share Posted May 29, 2005 (edited) Jimi Hendrix - he's far from the best ever. He was more of an innovator, if it wasn't for him, eric clapton, and few other fellows, guitar wouldn't be like it is today.Kurt Cobain - THis guy got 1 or 2 in mtv's top 22 guitarists? no way, hes not very good at all, very boring solos. very sloppy. don't say, "but thats grunge man", that don't mean shit.Slash - yep, I said it, Slash. Not nearly as good as people say he is.Jimmy Page - nothing special, but everyone acts like hes some guitar god.I don't know if I want to agree with people who say that Hammet is overrated. I never hear anyone talking aobut how good he is or anything. He is an amazing guitar player who has wrote some of the coolest (and best) solos I've ever heard.Not the best, but not overrated. Edited May 29, 2005 by forcechangenow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseHaulsAss Posted May 29, 2005 Share Posted May 29, 2005 kirk hammett...i cant stand him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick722 Posted May 29, 2005 Share Posted May 29, 2005 Chef :chef: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forcechangenow Posted May 29, 2005 Share Posted May 29, 2005 (edited) kirk hammett...i cant stand him why? he writes some great solos, and from what i see he's a nice guy. Edited May 29, 2005 by forcechangenow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appetite18 Posted May 29, 2005 Share Posted May 29, 2005 (edited) Yeah I dont see why everybody hates Hammett. He has written great solos like Fade to Black, Master of Puppets, One, every solo in Sanitarium and many others. Yeah alot of his post-Black Album solos were pretty boring and no he is not one of the ten greatest players or anything but I love Hammetts playing. Edited May 29, 2005 by Appetite18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseHaulsAss Posted May 29, 2005 Share Posted May 29, 2005 (edited) on muchmoremusic's power hour they had a special top 10 guitar gods and kirk hammet was #1...he beat out people like page,slash,randy rhodes,mustaine,hendrix,angus Edited May 29, 2005 by AxlRoseHaulsAss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forcechangenow Posted May 29, 2005 Share Posted May 29, 2005 on muchmoremusic's power hour they had a special top 10 guitar gods and kirk hammet was #1...he beat out people like page,slash,randy rhodes,mustaine,hendrix,angus the only competition Hammet has on that list is Rhoads, and maybe Mustaine, and I find him better that both of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getizzyback Posted May 29, 2005 Share Posted May 29, 2005 I will say Eric Clapton,man I am so tired of hearing his shit on the radio,come on already! He's got the whole classic rock scene BRAINWASHED! Also this guy opened up for AC/DC one night,his name was like Invay Malnstien or something ,man did he suck!At the time(late 80s) all my friends were worshipping this dude,yuck!And don't forget Ace Frehley,I thought every other Kiss guitarist was lightyears ahead of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallica1 Posted May 29, 2005 Share Posted May 29, 2005 A lot of this anger towards Kurt Cobain comes from the fact that the arrival of Nirvana basically ended GNR's careerThe "Nirvana Killed Metal" recieved opinion is complete crap. Think about other bands that were flourishing at the same time Nirvana were; Metallica and Faith No More, for example. They utilised metal in their sound, and still shifted stupid amounts of units. Case in point; Metallica's eponymous 1991 album (AKA The Black Album) was released in the same year as Nevermind, yet has outsold it entirely. Not a statement on quality, but a statement on the aforementioned bollocks myth.Also, I couldn't give to shits about most GN'R post Appetite For Destruction.Face it - what good did GNR do after the grunge scene came? I'll tell you what they did. Spaghetti Incident and then broke up.GN'R were pretty much fucked anyway, owing to Axl's primadonna demeanour and anti-fan sentiment, and most of the band leaving/having left. The release of an appalling covers album (with one of the worst front covers ever) was the final nail in the GN'R coffin.Most of you wouldn't know good music if it kicked you in the ass.Funnily enough, good music does 'kick you in the ass' (to use an inept paraphrasement of a colloquial saying). Nirvana don't kick you in the posterior with their music - they bore you to tears with their [his] pretentious lyrics and shitty instrumentation.By the way - Metallica truly suck balls. The most obvious, boring guitar riffs ever.I'd say you'd have to be pretty fucking dense not to see Nirvana's shitty, repetetive power chord workouts coming a mile off, but then again you're fairly blinkered and ignorant. Axl Rose Child.....You've been served Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barhazan Posted May 29, 2005 Share Posted May 29, 2005 Liam & Noel Gallagher. Since when Liam is a guitarist? he did parts in songbird but he's not a guitarist.. and you should check out some of Noels solos; he is not overrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Riie Posted May 29, 2005 Share Posted May 29, 2005 Slash is very overrated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl Rose Child Posted May 29, 2005 Share Posted May 29, 2005 The "Nirvana Killed Metal" recieved opinion is complete crap. Nirvana don't kick you in the posterior with their music - they bore you to tears with their [his] pretentious lyrics and shitty instrumentation. 1. Post-Nirvana, GNR died. Metallica went shit. Faith No More died. Your point is useless.2. If Nirvana did 'bore you to tears' I highly doubt they would have gone straight to #1 in the Billboard charts with an album that recieved hardly any promotion.(And by the way, had Nirvana have lived I assure you they would have NEVER have brought out albums as shit as "St. Anger" or "Contrband") B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appetite18 Posted May 29, 2005 Share Posted May 29, 2005 Umm are you guys forgetting Pantera? They were pretty fuckin big in the 90s so I don't think Nirvana exactly killed Metal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axel1304 Posted May 30, 2005 Share Posted May 30, 2005 I hate to say it (As i love Nirvana) but Kurt Cobain. But he's still quite good and Jimmy Hendrix. I don't see why people have said Slash he's a great guitar player B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevdo242 Posted May 30, 2005 Share Posted May 30, 2005 JIMI Hendrix. Not Jimmy. All EMO guitarists are overated. I don't even want to learn their names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Twisted Metal Posted May 30, 2005 Share Posted May 30, 2005 Jimi Hendrix is very overrated he is good n' all but like for his time. NO one played like the way he did in the 60s and now we have better guitarists out there. rock2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genesis Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 Metal killed itself, grunge simply came along and was the scapegoat. I don't even like grunge, I'm simply stating fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzy's Girl Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 erm if i say them i'd et beatings and im scared Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumiere Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 1. Post-Nirvana, GNR died.Did you bother to read my post? GN'R were fucked after the release of Use Your Illusion I+II and the subsequent tour. The band were a wreck, band members were dropping like flies, Axl was seemingly doing his best to kill of his fanbase...GN'R were a dead duck. They killed themselves.Metallica went shit.So we can thank Kurt Cobain for Metallica's turn to the medicore? I suppose he contacted James Hetfield and ordered him to become shite before he topped himself? Metallica's decline in quality has nothing to do with Nirvana's (much overstated) influence on the music world. Faith No More died.Yet still managed to produce a belter of an album, and score two massive hits in the process? To paraphrase yourself, your points are useless.If Nirvana did 'bore you to tears'Yeah, they bore me to tears. The morons that are the general public lapped it up though, like the sick puppies that they are.I highly doubt they would have gone straight to #1 in the Billboard chartsI think you're confused as to what the term 'straight to #1' means. It means for an album to debut at the top spot. Nevermind certainly did not debut at #1.with an album that recieved hardly any promotion.Are you bloody joking? Before Nevermind was released, the Smells Like Teen Spirit video and single were already on constant rotation on the radio and MTV. Nirvana played a fair few in-store shows to promote Nevermind. Posters bearing the famous album cover, and the album's title and release date were splattered all over record shops. Hardly any promotion? Bah.Had Nirvana have lived I assure you they would have NEVER have brought out albums as shit as "St. Anger" or "Contrband"By 1994, Nirvana were totally moribund. Fans had started to forget, the press had started to forget, the public had started to forget. Kurt's death may not have secured Nirvana fame, but it sure did grant them immortality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 OK who the hell ISN'T overrated then? You guys have listed every major guitarist there is, multiple times. Slash, Angus Young, Clapton, Hendrix, Richards, Hammet, Perry, Page, Morello... What does overrated even mean? These people all made extremely memorable and popular music and changed music history, what do you want from them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 OK who the hell ISN'T overrated then? You guys have listed every major guitarist there is, multiple times. Slash, Angus Young, Clapton, Hendrix, Richards, Hammet, Perry, Page, Morello... What does overrated even mean? These people all made extremely memorable and popular music and changed music history, what do you want from them? every single guy you mentioned there, their rating is justified.They did something right to earn the praise right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 OK who the hell ISN'T overrated then? You guys have listed every major guitarist there is, multiple times. Slash, Angus Young, Clapton, Hendrix, Richards, Hammet, Perry, Page, Morello... What does overrated even mean? These people all made extremely memorable and popular music and changed music history, what do you want from them?every single guy you mentioned there, their rating is justified.They did something right to earn the praise right? Exactly, so this whole thread is kind of stupid . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumiere Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 SlashOverrated.Why? Well, just look at all the adulation and praise heaped upon him on this forum. Crimony. I've heard Slash play some great solos, I've heard some nice Slash riffs - but nothing that makes him deserving of greatest guitarist ever status.Angus YoungGreat guitarist, but he relies on similar-sounding chords and self-plaigarism.ClaptonOverrated.He has a horrible tendency to repeat himself. He's also made some of the most turgid, boring albums ever. The only products with his name on them worth a shit are Disraeli Gears, Layla, and Roger Waters' Pros & Cons Of Hitchhiking.HendrixI can never call Hendrix overrated, because he started everything. Much like idiots nowadays refer to The Beatles as overrated, just because they're hackneyed and antiquated.As for Morrello? He's no guitarist, he's an effects-pedalist. Hammett is stupidly overrated too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 ORnone of them are overrated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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