Bootlegs on eBay

[Max™]

How come people can get away with selling GNR DVD bootlegs on eBay? I read their policy and bootlegs are prohibited....so why are there stacks of shows on there?

[Guest gnr>everything]

There's been a bunch of discussions on it, but I', having trouble finding them...here's one thing: http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?showto...ndpost&p=999813

Basically they put that stuff there so they won't get in trouble when the sales do happen.

[KBear]

I think there's no question it is illegal (to sell or trade) these bootlegs. But nobody bothers to enforce the law. Technically then, it is illegal, but in practice it is not...like the speeding analogy I made in the other thread.

I think if you burn the Tokyo DVDs or Welcome to the Videos, and then sell those, you are asking for trouble. These are DVDs that are officially released, i.e. Geffen makes money off them. And the albums too of course, and whatever else I might be forgetting that is official. You would be cutting into their profits and thus pissing them off.

But all the other stuff they aren't making money from. So what do they care if people sell/trade those concerts? In fact it probably helps the band by keeping fan interest high.

And as gnr>everything said (love that name btw), ebay probably has that policy in place in the unlikely event they are sued by Geffen for allowing those DVDs. They can point to it and say that they never condoned it and tried to discourage it.

That's just my take on things. I could be wrong but I think it's the only logical explanation.

[Guest gnr>everything]

And as gnr>everything said (love that name btw)

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Thanks.

I was doing algebra homework when I made my account and we were doing inequalities.

[ssiscool]

i think that the selling of bootlegs shud be allowed. as kbear said. it keeps fan numbers up. but copy offically released material and then yeah thats wrong

SS.

[Almost Famous]

i think that the selling of bootlegs shud be allowed. as kbear said. it keeps fan numbers up. but copy offically released material and then yeah thats wrong

SS.

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Why should the selling be allowed?

If you are the one who taped the show, then you're allowed to sell it, as you're the original source of it. I've got a few cassette bootlegs that my Dad or his friend taped themselves. So, he could sell as he is the one who taped them.

[Guest gnr>everything]

i think that the selling of bootlegs shud be allowed. as kbear said. it keeps fan numbers up. but copy offically released material and then yeah thats wrong

SS.

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Why should the selling be allowed?

If you are the one who taped the show, then you're allowed to sell it, as you're the original source of it. I've got a few cassette bootlegs that my Dad or his friend taped themselves. So, he could sell as he is the one who taped them.

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Actually he can't. He doesn't have rights to the show...

Here's an example eBay used: When cleaning out her attic, Grace found several bootleg recordings her mother had made while traveling around the world with the Grateful Dead. Grace is not permitted to sell these bootleg recordings on eBay. Doing so is against eBay policy and violates the rights of the copyright owner.

Yeah that example is specifically for eBay, but the last part says "violates the rights of the copyright owner."

[Almost Famous]

i think that the selling of bootlegs shud be allowed. as kbear said. it keeps fan numbers up. but copy offically released material and then yeah thats wrong

SS.

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Why should the selling be allowed?

If you are the one who taped the show, then you're allowed to sell it, as you're the original source of it. I've got a few cassette bootlegs that my Dad or his friend taped themselves. So, he could sell as he is the one who taped them.

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Actually he can't. He doesn't have rights to the show...

Here's an example eBay used: When cleaning out her attic, Grace found several bootleg recordings her mother had made while traveling around the world with the Grateful Dead. Grace is not permitted to sell these bootleg recordings on eBay. Doing so is against eBay policy and violates the rights of the copyright owner.

Yeah that example is specifically for eBay, but the last part says "violates the rights of the copyright owner."

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I mean not on eBay but in like a private trade or record show, then he can.

[Guest gnr>everything]

i think that the selling of bootlegs shud be allowed. as kbear said. it keeps fan numbers up. but copy offically released material and then yeah thats wrong

SS.

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Why should the selling be allowed?

If you are the one who taped the show, then you're allowed to sell it, as you're the original source of it. I've got a few cassette bootlegs that my Dad or his friend taped themselves. So, he could sell as he is the one who taped them.

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Actually he can't. He doesn't have rights to the show...

Here's an example eBay used: When cleaning out her attic, Grace found several bootleg recordings her mother had made while traveling around the world with the Grateful Dead. Grace is not permitted to sell these bootleg recordings on eBay. Doing so is against eBay policy and violates the rights of the copyright owner.

Yeah that example is specifically for eBay, but the last part says "violates the rights of the copyright owner."

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I mean not on eBay but in like a private trade or record show, then he can.

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I know you meant not on eBay, that's what the part about the "violates the rights of the copyright owner" means. It's still illegal to sell bootlegs, it doesn't matter who taped it.