insomniac Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 (edited) i put the program into sonic foundry acid pro audio 4.0 and really zoomd in on the music wave and that part was clearly added in. the radio waves or what ever youd call it doesent match up. but if u cut it out like j.rose did last night it matches perfectly. awsome!!! that means there is another song to be leaked and it sounds great i love the screams!!1maybe thats prostituteso there you have it------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------UPDATE:looking at the instrumental in the same program. now i totally belive the "extra" solo belongs and fits perfectly Edited March 9, 2006 by insomniac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forsaken Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 At what time exactly does the song begin to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrixAreForKids Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 At what time exactly does the song begin to change.2.23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChineseIRS Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 (edited) Nah, I think its part of the song. People just face it, the song takes a turn and gets wicked heavy, then it goes back to the original sound at the end. With that said, the song absolutely owns, kicks ass.Just look at my signature, that says it all people. Edited February 24, 2006 by ChineseIRS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forsaken Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 At what time exactly does the song begin to change.2.23And then it comes back when? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrixAreForKids Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 At what time exactly does the song begin to change.2.23And then it comes back when?Sorry it's 2.22, and it comes back at 3.40 or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcalldp Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Just becausse you can cut it out does not mean it is not part of the song, remember they could have just as easily pasted it in using the same type of music software. I do this all the time, get a lot of little ideas laying around and start pasting them in on other more complete tracks to see what works. in my opinion, in better, it WORKS. You could be right but I'm just saying that this doesn't prove that and I prefer it as is myself. :krider: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forsaken Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Oh damn now that I listen to it, it does kinda sound like something was added in... but who knows, it is only a demo.But is there a way someone could make a version that cuts out everything in between 2:22 and 3:40? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f**k_your_enemy Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 I think Better is the real deal. Wes said he had 3 tracks and we got 3 tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurpleHaze Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 (edited) There is no way on this Earth or any other that Better has another song in it. Accept it. Edited February 24, 2006 by PurpleHaze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChineseIRS Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 There is no way on this Earth or any other that Better has another song in it. Accept it.Thank you very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abitestranged Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 (edited) i put the program into sonic foundry acid pro audio 4.0 and really zoomd in on the music wave and that part was clearly added in. the radio waves or what ever youd call it doesent match up. but if u cut it out like j.rose did last night it matches perfectly. awsome!!! that means there is another song to be leaked and it sounds great i love the screams!!1maybe thats prostituteso there you have itI agree that there might have been a mixture of two songs. The drums sound a little bid different. I don't mean the beat but the sound. The symbols don't match up. the drums too is definetely louder aswell. Which could just be a part of the creativity, but I doubt it. I'm sure someone changed it. Just listen to the difference in the drum's volume between the regular parts and the weird parts. Its too great of a difference to be of one song alone.Just listen to the drums at the end of the weird part as it transists into the regular parts as we love it. Its too great of a difference in volume to be of the same song Edited February 24, 2006 by abitestranged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follow Your Illusion Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 There is no way on this Earth or any other that Better has another song in it. Accept it.The change of music is so drastic, and without the segment in, it flow so much smoother.Im a believer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrixAreForKids Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 There is no way on this Earth or any other that Better has another song in it. Accept it.The change of music is so drastic, and without the segment in, it flow so much smoother.Im a believer!Maybe Axl can clear this up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingstar Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 There was a "leak" of a solo part some time ago, that most of us concluded as fake.. Does that part fit into BETTER..?? Had it, but deleted it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrixAreForKids Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 There was a "leak" of a solo part some time ago, that most of us concluded as fake.. Does that part fit into BETTER..?? Had it, but deleted it Really? How long ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurpleHaze Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Holy crap! I just heard Rocket Queen (4w3$0M3 s0nG btw!!!). Have you guys noticed how the mood changes at the end???!!! The guitars and everything change. MAYBE SOMEBODY PUT THAT BIT IN OH NOES! SOMEBODY TELL AXL!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111sH1fT+1!!!!!!!!!1111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrixAreForKids Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Holy crap! I just heard Rocket Queen (4w3$0M3 s0nG btw!!!). Have you guys noticed how the mood changes at the end???!!! The guitars and everything change. MAYBE SOMEBODY PUT THAT BIT IN OH NOES! SOMEBODY TELL AXL!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111sH1fT+1!!!!!!!!!1111The song flows though, and it hasn't been put right in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abitestranged Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Holy crap! I just heard Rocket Queen (4w3$0M3 s0nG btw!!!). Have you guys noticed how the mood changes at the end???!!! The guitars and everything change. MAYBE SOMEBODY PUT THAT BIT IN OH NOES! SOMEBODY TELL AXL!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111sH1fT+1!!!!!!!!!1111I think people listen to more than just the vocals and the guitar parts in a song. In any song, transitions are proportionally consistent in volumes etc. That's the case with Rocket Queen, but not BETTER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildrose Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Holy crap! I just heard Rocket Queen (4w3$0M3 s0nG btw!!!). Have you guys noticed how the mood changes at the end???!!! The guitars and everything change. MAYBE SOMEBODY PUT THAT BIT IN OH NOES! SOMEBODY TELL AXL!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111sH1fT+1!!!!!!!!!1111 Seriously though that change was diliberate.I dunno... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurpleHaze Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 (edited) Jesus Christ... This is a rough cut of the song and the mood changes drastically, so what? The middle bit may be in the final version, it may not be. I believe it almost certainly will and even if it isn't, IT IS CLEARLY NOT FROM ANOTHER SONG. Edited February 24, 2006 by PurpleHaze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
music89 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 This is my theory about it. The demo could be real. Bands to many different takes of songs, some times if demo tapes of a CD surface, there are 3, 4 or more versions of the same song, untill they get it right. Mabey they added this into the demo of the original song at a later date, the song could still be real, but the middle part was recrded at a different time, mabey even a different studio. That could explain the sound change. Who knows. We will find out when the CD comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferretfondu Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Look, its obvious that you could argue both the thing in the middle and when the song goes back into normal are part of the song, and here's why.If you cut out the section a measure before the weird shit just as buckethead's solo begins up until the song goes back to normal the solo matches up perfectlyIt's two different endings to the songBut then, isn't that a weird fucking ending for a song? (the middle part)I remember Axl said he'd be doing some Queen like arrangments recently, and Queen definately changes it up, listen to We are the champions or Bohemien Rhapsophy.It's as simple as there were two different endings to Better on the demo tape.PM for proof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnernj Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Its the same fucking song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackers Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 I think the point of the song is to change drastically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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