highvoltage Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 oh I know I just wanted to know where in the "meaning of the thread" or "what the thread meant to be" was there any intent by the original maker of the thread to bash the bandIt was from a different thread merged into this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bax Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 I'm not going to read 28 page thread, so these issues mays have been covered already. Two conflicting ideas come to mind. Obviously there is the idea that this is great promotion for the band, but there is also the possibilty that some people will consider this selling out. Personally, I used to think that having one's music or likeness in any form of advertising was selling out. The state of modern music has changed that opinion. Now my feeling is that as long as the band isn't changing their music to fit in with the trends of the mainstream they can retain their credibility. Better may have a poppy feel during the verse parts, but taking the song as a whole I don't think it is pandering to the masses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naupis Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 Better may have a poppy feel during the verse parts, but taking the song as a whole I don't think it is pandering to the masses.It's not, but when you haven't released any music for 15 years and this is the first thing people hear of your new venture, it makes him seem kind of soft as the specific clip sounds ultra poppy, even though the rest of the song is heavier. Establishing that he can still do balls to the wall rock might have been the best plan of attack if you want to perpetuate to an audience that this is really GNR. I doubt at first glance that type of song is what people are going to be expecting from the new Guns N' Roses album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Flower Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 GnR have always been a very commercial band. I can't understand why so many people have developed such an indie attitude. I thought it was just an excuse to bag Slash and Velvet Revolver, to be honest.Really have no problem with Better being used in a HD ad. It's good promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serg Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 Really have no problem with Better being used in a HD ad. It's good promotion.agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen Inferno Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 gnr(not just axl, GNR) is promoting CD, not selling out, the only thing they sell out are shows (like mrb said) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussie_axl Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 god i love that song! that was fucking sweet!, it's good times from here on in people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEEP11 Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 It sounds like a different vocal track and slower than the demo. Or it may be the sleeping pills I just took. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTHAFA Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 When do you ever see Harley Davidson ads on TV? I can't remember the last Harley commercial I saw.Axl should have done an iPod commercial with Apple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboSupra Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 They changed it to PC.....heh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRfan2008 Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 They changed it to PC.....hehThe website says that, but when you play it, the video is still the one with "Better" instead of "PC." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strat89 Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 well jarmo over at HTGTH said that someone jumped the gun, maybe this wasn't supposed to come out until tuesday, along with a single. Although why is management so scared of people hearing music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisXGNR Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 I just played it, PC was played guess they fucked up ehhh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strat89 Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 it says check back soon to hear Better again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRfan2008 Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 I just played it, PC was played guess they fucked up ehhh.I'm playing it right now and it's still playing "Better," despite the website saying "Paradise City." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillYourIdols Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 Chinese Democracy begins now.Haha, had to do it. Seriously looks like it is finally happening, I'm pumped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBear Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 (edited) It sounds like a different vocal track and slower than the demo. Or it may be the sleeping pills I just took.Hmm, I'm not sure the vocal track has changed. But I agree, the one in the Harley ad definitely has a slower tempo. On my first few listens I must say I prefer the song a bit faster. And I'm not liking the mix. I think the guitars are too low relative to Axl's voice. You hear Axl crystal clear but the music is so low in the mix. I hope this is adjusted on the album (but I doubt it will be since this is likely the album version). The song just lacks the punch the demo version had.Of course, you can't pass judgement based on song clips. Perhaps they turned up Axl's vocals just for the ad itself so that the lyrics could be heard more clearly. Who knows. Edited October 21, 2006 by KBear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboSupra Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 Odd....it still plays 'Better' for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRfan2008 Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 Odd....it still plays 'Better' for me.Yeah, it's still doing it for me too, but I think it's a Firefox thing perhaps. Are you using Firefox or what? Cuz I think Firefox had the page cached from when I watched it earlier. When I switch it to "low bandwidth," it plays the PC one. Also, when I open it in IE it plays the PC one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisXGNR Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 (edited) Firefox, yea its in yall's Cache. i cant watch Edited October 21, 2006 by ChrisXGNR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinese69illusions Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 can anyone put this up on megaupload so I can download it please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motownjunkie Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 (edited) they havent taken it down at all ...im not sure they will either because advertisements are an exception i believe ....to somethng like a music film clip thats ripped from a DVD sourcei could be wrong but i dont see why the commercial would be deleted(i noticed that the solo is different on this version of better and the drums are heavier in the mix) Edited October 21, 2006 by motownjunkie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Flower Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 Haha, they obviously got an angry call from GnR management.Oh well, youtube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisXGNR Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 (edited) Cool thanks, This sounds a little weird. Yea GnR Managment probably got pissed about this. I guess Better is going to be the Single. Edited October 21, 2006 by ChrisXGNR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motownjunkie Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 Cool thanks, This sounds a little weird.is this the first time youve heard "better" chris? ...its definately a grower that song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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