mr.b Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Where did ye pull this outta? i thought merek said this was bull? And that the real cost was round the 6-7 million mark. It seems that people are juat using this figure as another excuse to be pissed off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longpig Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 B)-->QUOTE(mr.b @ Nov 3 2006, 11:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Where did ye pull this outta? i thought merek said this was bull? And that the real cost was round the 6-7 million mark. It seems that people are juat using this figure as another excuse to be pissed off...I think the New York TImes 'created' this figure, and it's spread about like wild fire, and everyone uses it now as fact, but I don't think anyone really knows.LP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.b Posted November 3, 2006 Author Share Posted November 3, 2006 (edited) B)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mr.b @ Nov 3 2006, 11:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Where did ye pull this outta? i thought merek said this was bull? And that the real cost was round the 6-7 million mark. It seems that people are juat using this figure as another excuse to be pissed off...I think the New York TImes 'created' this figure, and it's spread about like wild fire, and everyone uses it now as fact, but I don't think anyone really knows.LPDidn't merek send a letter to then calling it bull basically?...I can never get the quote right... Edited November 3, 2006 by mr.b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicious Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 (edited) i remember reading it in kerrang magazine about 2 or 3 years agoit was in the "6 things you didn't know last week" sectionalthough the same issue also said gnr would be at download with VR that year Edited November 3, 2006 by vicious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.b Posted November 3, 2006 Author Share Posted November 3, 2006 i remember reading it in kerrang magazine about 2 or 3 years agoit was in the "6 things you didn't know last week" sectionalthough the same issue also said gnr would be at download with VR that yearWell were all guilty of that at some point or another. i just dont see any reliable source for this figure. Some one just seems to have made it up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmir Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 who is merek? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 who is merek?He means Merck. The manager of Guns N' Roses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blzbub Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 I could care less about how much it cost, unless it was under 25 grand and recorded on ProTools in Axl's Garage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patience 4 Axl Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 I'm pretty sure that number came before the NY Times article, but I forget where. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sandman Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 I could care less about how much it cost, unless it was under 25 grand and recorded on ProTools in Axl's Garage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard2k Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 I could care less about how much it cost, unless it was under 25 grand and recorded on ProTools in Axl's Garage.You mean "couldn't care less".But to be honest I'd even take it, recorded on Pro Tools in his garage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackers Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Pitman can't work his magic on 25 grand. What would you get then? A GnR album with no beeping sound effects. That would be a disaster. Like Simon and Garfunkel without vocal harmonizing. Or Metallica with short hair.or Appetite For Destruction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly Guns Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 and we must also not forget that they have almost 3 albums worth of material recorded (from what we heard), so its not 6-7 mill just for chinese democracy, but potentially for 2 other albums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChineseDemocracy Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 B)-->QUOTE(mr.b @ Nov 3 2006, 11:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Where did ye pull this outta? i thought merek said this was bull? And that the real cost was round the 6-7 million mark. It seems that people are juat using this figure as another excuse to be pissed off...That $13 million dollar figure has been printed everywhere that talks about the new album, from newspapers to magazines, and Merck is the only one saying its bull? Who am I going to believe, a dipshit manager or about 7-8 (probably more) printed sources? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Matt13 Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 B)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mr.b @ Nov 3 2006, 11:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Where did ye pull this outta? i thought merek said this was bull? And that the real cost was round the 6-7 million mark. It seems that people are juat using this figure as another excuse to be pissed off...That $13 million dollar figure has been printed everywhere that talks about the new album, from newspapers to magazines, and Merck is the only one saying its bull? Who am I going to believe, a dipshit manager or about 7-8 (probably more) printed sources?Just like you'd probably ignore what a field general is telling you about how a war is going, and listening to what CNN, MSNBC, the BBC and other liberal news networks tell you about it.Hey, look at all those people jumping off the bridge, let's go jump with them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickyjoe89 Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 B)-->QUOTE(mr.b @ Nov 3 2006, 06:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Where did ye pull this outta? i thought merek said this was bull? And that the real cost was round the 6-7 million mark. It seems that people are juat using this figure as another excuse to be pissed off...could be 6-7 mil pounds and 13 million $$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 I could care less about how much it cost, unless it was under 25 grand and recorded on ProTools in Axl's Garage.You mean "couldn't care less".But to be honest I'd even take it, recorded on Pro Tools in his garage. So it bothers you too when people say 'could care less'? I hate it too (and I'm not being a jerk to the person who originally said it, it's just one of the things in life that annoy me that probably shouldn't) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockandload Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 I could care less about how much it cost, unless it was under 25 grand and recorded on ProTools in Axl's Garage.You mean "couldn't care less".But to be honest I'd even take it, recorded on Pro Tools in his garage. So it bothers you too when people say 'could care less'? I hate it too (and I'm not being a jerk to the person who originally said it, it's just one of the things in life that annoy me that probably shouldn't)Me too. Everytime I read it I think 'does that mean they care or they don't care?'...couldn't care less = could not care less = do not care at all. Could care less must mean you care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gina9 Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 I think I'm missing sth here. What the 13million figure is all about? Somebody to enlighten me please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.b Posted November 4, 2006 Author Share Posted November 4, 2006 I think I'm missing sth here. What the 13million figure is all about? Somebody to enlighten me please!Apparently Chi-D cost 13 million to make. Bull if you ask me, as this figure was made up by some writer slating the album for taking so long... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gina9 Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 B)-->QUOTE(mr.b @ Nov 3 2006, 07:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think I'm missing sth here. What the 13million figure is all about? Somebody to enlighten me please!Apparently Chi-D cost 13 million to make. Bull if you ask me, as this figure was made up by some writer slating the album for taking so long...Thanks pal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.b Posted November 4, 2006 Author Share Posted November 4, 2006 (edited) B)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mr.b @ Nov 3 2006, 07:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think I'm missing sth here. What the 13million figure is all about? Somebody to enlighten me please!Apparently Chi-D cost 13 million to make. Bull if you ask me, as this figure was made up by some writer slating the album for taking so long...Thanks pal! No bother...Can someone tell me what it is im doing wrong when i quote that does that^^ to the post. Would be very gratefull... Edited November 4, 2006 by mr.b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madison Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 It was in excess of $10 million more than two years ago. So, the $13 million figure doesn't surprise me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.b Posted November 4, 2006 Author Share Posted November 4, 2006 It was in excess of $10 million more than two years ago. So, the $13 million figure doesn't surprise me.But where did that figure come from? LAst time I checked, bands dont say how much an album costs to make? Unless your linkin park in which case you plaster it everywhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooze72 Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 B)-->QUOTE(mr.b @ Nov 3 2006, 09:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>But where did that figure come from? LAst time I checked, bands dont say how much an album costs to make? Unless your linkin park in which case you plaster it everywhere...It's called 'research'. The New York Times is considered the most reliable news source in the world because they research from multiple sources and 'fact-check' their information. It's pretty easy to ballpark the costs, any band would pay roughly the same price for the same services. They know how much the studio costs, the gear rental, the standard producers' rates, somebody spilled the beans on the band and tech salaries and a bunch of other things, and I do believe they also quoted some Geffen financial documents that somebody at the company obviously slipped them.It's equally easy for management (or whoever) to skewer information. Case in point, when Geffen was folded into Interscope years back, the rumor was that GNR had already spent six-million, but on paper, all the old debts were wiped clean, Interscope re-wound the odometer to zero. So depending on where the NYT got their info, it could be $6 mil higher and actually $19 mil, or if it was already part of their figure, management can say 'they're full of shit, it's only $7 mil'. Or they could be really sneaky and take the money from the Live Era sales which is applied to the CD debt and just quote the outstanding balance. And yeah, I'd believe CNN over a Field General everytime. CNN has no bias (and sure as shit, if you're taking info from all the networks, even more so), no stake in the information and they get the it from multiple sources. The FG is a myopic, tight-lipped, armed control freak who will tell you whatever it takes to win the war.And 'could care less' drives me nuts too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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