gnfnr2006 Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 (edited) *** 2008 EDIT - Its interesting to see everyones comments about CD from 20 months ago.... ***Out of all the new songs, CD gets the least mention among us. But the "average" GNR fan, or, the average person who knows GNR popular songs and likes them, probably only knows the words to the songs that were on the radio, tv, etc. I think even most people who bought UYI dont know many if the lyrics, other than the obvious ones. Its really a shame too, cause Axls words are just....so powerful, to say the least. So what I am getting at here is:I really think CD has a good chance of being the first or second single- becuse it sounds like the GNR poeple listening to the radio and wathching MTV will remember.The really like CD. It really has the most "origianal GNR" sound to it. Not that thats what I prefer, cause I really, really love the new stuff !!The music(guitars, drums and even Axls voice) is what has sold the vast majority of the records, rather than the EXCELLENT lyrics Axl has given us. The new songs have some very deep lyrics, that inspire alot of though, but thats not what has sold all the albums. So what do you think? Where does CD stand in terms of a single? Edited October 31, 2008 by madison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackamo! Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 The lyrics aren't excellent.The song is itself is below average.The intro is cool.Not single material at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 I love the song, but the only way it's gonna work as a single is if they do a radio edit with the new intro on a loop for 4 mins and send it out to radio stations as "Pit(t)mania" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spuffy78 Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 From a markerting poitn of view and it makes perfect sense. The CD is called CD what better way to promote it? Also think about the lyrics will give people a stir and make it controversial just like One in a Million.But in a sense of quaility Better or TWAT is the best choice IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackamo! Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 The lyrics aren't controversial. They were made after watching a movie about a dolly llama (sp?)Axl said himself, that the lyrics don't mean anything, didn't he?Pointless lyrics. That song shouldn't even be on the CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spuffy78 Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 That's to you. Many people didn't think One In a Million was controversial but others did.It's still a good song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnfnr2006 Posted December 23, 2006 Author Share Posted December 23, 2006 The lyrics aren't controversial. They were made after watching a movie about a dolly llama (sp?)Axl said himself, that the lyrics don't mean anything, didn't he?Pointless lyrics. That song shouldn't even be on the CD. ??? Enlighten this noob please Jackamo. I have never heard line one or two of your post.And Im not saying the it the best song, or my favorite, cause I prefer TWAT...Im just wondering if/how the song will be used. As I said, the song ir really the ONLY one that SOUNDS like the GNR that 90% of the millions of people who bought GNR albums will remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pain_Train_99 Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 the singles gotta be better, its awesome. ppl will say "yeah it sounds different" but thats right before theyll say "but its still awesome" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackamo! Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 First off, the song itself improved since 2002.Mostly, because of Pitman and the intro.But as a single, or radio edit, the intro wouldn't work. The song wouldn't be the same.Chinese Democracy is a rock song.Just because it's rock, doesn't mean it rocks.Chinese Democracy doesn't rock, it's a weak track.When introducing the song live, at HOB I think, he said he wrote the song after watching Kundun. The lyrics are not controversial, they don't even have much of a reason. Pointless. I would be quite disappointed if they chose it as a single. It's below average at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spuffy78 Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 That's great and all but that's your opinion on the song..We haven't even heard the studio version of the song... So yeah base the entire song off of live performances..Hell, I can do that too I could say Estranged is a weak song after hearing Axl do it at Chicago in 92 because the solo's sound sloppy and Axl's voice is raspy.Like I said in my first post Better or TWAT would be a better single. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnfnr2006 Posted December 23, 2006 Author Share Posted December 23, 2006 Great!! rock1 Thats why I asked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthisriver Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 CD is the only new song that I don't care for. All the others are great but this one just bores me. Maybe becasue it called Chinese Democracy. I hope it never becomes a single. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesseli Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 its the weakest song of them all (new), its really boring.. may be powerfull in the album, you never know. Axl's voice is really boring too. but i like the new intro. really powerfull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen8R Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 I can't see how anyone can say this is closest to the appatite stuff. This is clearly more of a grunge rock song more than anything. I bet this was one of the first tracks written for the album since this was the direction Duff and Axl were heading towards in the mid 1990's.Not an overly strong track imo, took a long long long time for me to really get into it at all. A8R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Sal Bug Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 "it's not an intellegent song .It dosent have the anser to anything, But it's the Title track of the album*crowd screams* wich God willingly we Will! finish, *crowd screams*and its not neceraly about China, Its just that rite now China symbolizes one of the strongest yet most impresive Countrys and Goverments in the world."OkOk That is a short important bit he says in a long speech befor the song, and yes befor this he talks about that movie for a while. I love the song , its grown on me over the years and now the last verse's hit me, its great song but Shouldent be used as a singel imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EccoTides Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 The song's intro and outro = Amazing. Love both of them.The middle of the song, well, here's hoping that the studio version has some magic that the live versions have been lacking. The middle is alright, just not as fantastic as the beginning or the end of the song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChineseDemocracy Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Out of all the new songs, CD gets the least mention among us. But the "average" GNR fan, or, the average person who knows GNR popular songs and likes them, probably only knows the words to the songs that were on the radio, tv, etc. I think even most people who bought UYI dont know many if the lyrics, other than the obvious ones. Its really a shame too, cause Axls words are just....so powerful, to say the least. So what I am getting at here is:I really think CD has a good chance of being the first or second single- becuse it sounds like the GNR poeple listening to the radio and wathching MTV will remember.The really like CD. It really has the most "origianal GNR" sound to it. Not that thats what I prefer, cause I really, really love the new stuff !!The music(guitars, drums and even Axls voice) is what has sold the vast majority of the records, rather than the EXCELLENT lyrics Axl has given us. The new songs have some very deep lyrics, that inspire alot of though, but thats not what has sold all the albums. So what do you think? Where does CD stand in terms of a single?I think if the album is called 'Chinese Democracy' still, I think that song would most likely be a 3rd single, mostly because they dont play it all the time, and it isnt the best out of the new songs. I still think 'Better' will end up being the first single, followed by a more mellow ballady type song, maybe TWAT or another song we havent heard yet. If the album goes strong through that, then they will probably release 'Chinese Democracy' as the 3rd single.Thats just my thoughts. But personally, I wouldnt use 'Chinese Democracy' as the lead single, because the lead single, mostly in this new GNR has to be their absolute best song and most commercially viable, and I think 'Better' fits that bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssiscool Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 i doubt that it would be first or second single material i dunno if it will be a single though if it is i doubt i'd buy it if its out after the album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ags_rule Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 'Chinese Democracy' = The best song we've heard yet from the CD. Excellent intro, awesome guitar work and solo - the vocals aren't great, but it's a brilliant hard-rocker that I really hope is the album opener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let And Let Live Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 They really like CD. It really has the most "original GNR" sound to it. Not that thats what I prefer, cause I really, really love the new stuff !!I think alot of people are wrongly judging (be it in a positive way or not) "Chinese Democracy" on the live versions that they/we have heard, i don't beleive there will be the same intro on the studio version as on the live one as a kick off.We have to look at the evidence - all we have in terms of a near-studio sound of "Chinese Democracy" is the 2002 Promo(s).Now if the finished version of "Chinese Democracy" is anything like it is on the 2002 Promo, it will sound quite different from it's live counterpart.Axl's voice on the promo sounded distorted and the song (allbeit judging it based on a few seconds of it) had a very industrial arrangement about it.I think the finished version (if anything like the promo clip) will pleasantly surprise alot of people on these boards as a decent kick-ass track, i feel it has alot of potential and i'm sure it will raise a few eyebrows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.b Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 From a markerting poitn of view and it makes perfect sense. The CD is called CD what better way to promote it? Also think about the lyrics will give people a stir and make it controversial just like One in a Million.But in a sense of quaility Better or TWAT is the best choice IMO.Everyone knows that GNR's next album is called Chinese Democracy, unless you have been living ina cave you will know its name, and if you dont, your not a rock fan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridayfan13 Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 the song is a great opener to the album, but t is by no means single material. the song will not capture the audience like better would. hell, maybe even TWAT could be the first singe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blender Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 (edited) I think CD is the closest thing out of the new material that sounds like the old GNR. Its my favorite song out of the new stuff I have heard. Edited December 24, 2006 by Blender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spuffy78 Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 B)-->QUOTE(mr.b @ Dec 24 2006, 02:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>From a markerting poitn of view and it makes perfect sense. The CD is called CD what better way to promote it? Also think about the lyrics will give people a stir and make it controversial just like One in a Million.But in a sense of quaility Better or TWAT is the best choice IMO.Everyone knows that GNR's next album is called Chinese Democracy, unless you have been living ina cave you will know its name, and if you dont, your not a rock fan...That's why when you go to a Gn'R concert only a select few know the lyrics to the new songs...The last part is retarded.. seriously I'm not a huge fan of NIN does that not make me rock fan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximo Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Its a decent song. Much improved from 02. But as Jackamo said the song would not work as a radio single. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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