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  2. General Chat / Random Musings

    I've said it before, she's cute as a button, makes your sordid, depraved and generally pointless existence all worth it You done alright there man. Kids are fuckin' wonderful, look at that face, wouldn't know hardship if it pulled up a chair beside her eh?
  3. General Chat / Random Musings

    While I agree there is a certain moral turpitude to abusing your position as President to poke interns there's a slight difference between rape and having consensual sex with an intern, same with the Jack and Bobby, they may have been pervos that shagged around a bit but they weren't forcing them or doing it to underage girls or whatever. Also, take a lot at their faces. Take a look at Jack Kennedy...then Bobby...then Bill...who do you think is just a swordsman and who do you think either has to pay for it and/or force birds out of them and Trump? Blimey, even I'd have to think about it if Jack Kennedy was going begging
  4. General Chat / Random Musings

    I do this all the time I haven't spilled it i'm preserving it for memory of a great meal.
  5. Oh, that explains the Trump pinada in Mexico. Thanks for the clarification, Duff.
  6. British Politics

    Neither what Evan and Soul are saying pays the slightest attention to the present political situation which will see an arch-Brexiteer enter Number 10, and a United Kingdom prepared to leave ''no-deal'' on 31st October! Even the opposition's leader (Jeremy Corbyn) does not have much enthusiasm for a second referendum! I can actually give you Parliamentary support for the second referendum by producing the indicative votes of March, No Parliamentary majority there either! So how is this second referendum supposed to occur when it isn't supported by the (future) Prime Minister, doesn't have a majority in the Commons, and isn't even supported with much enthusiasm by the opposition? How is it? NB., confirmation of ''any Brexit deal'' does not entail that ''revoke article 50'', i.e. abolish Brexit, will be on the voting slip.
  7. The whining thread

    That is how I felt last summer actually. No, that is how I felt every summer in the last, oh, maybe twenty years? Because almost all of them have been record breaking already so I'm not expecting this summer to be any different. It's about 35 now but it probably feels like 40 because of the humidity... woe is me.
  8. Summer Song Challenge #8

    Day 2: 2015 (sorry for being a bit early) A sunny summer song, as it's a hot summer's day here. Chose this especially as the video was shot in a beautiful neighbourhood in my hometown, even if Axwell and Ingrosso are Swedes.
  9. British Politics

    Yes, and even more so, a Brexit immediately following a second referendum would have electoral legitimacy. Whereas an exit now, after 3-4 years and a, too put it mildly, flawed process, would not have the same democratic legitimacy. Just consider how divisive a Brexit 3-4 years after a referendum would be. Generations to come would complain about how people were misled and how undemocratic the departure was. It could color public discourse for decades. You want that hanging over your heads? But a second referendum followed by a swift exit would be accepted by (almost) all. It would have legitimacy. It would be democratic. There really is nothing to lose. Either the outcome of the first referendum is upheld and a Brexit can happen with little complaints and everybody knows that this is truly what a (more) informed people wants. Or the outcome is overturned and you can say you dodged a bullet by almost leaving the EU without having sufficient democratic support.
  10. Summer Song Challenge #8

    Day 1
  11. British Politics

    I agree in most situations, but not in this one. There are no rules that you can't redo a referendum. And in this situation it would make perfect sense for reasons that have been stated many times in this thread. If there will be a deal on the table finally, at least people will know what Brexit will actually stand for and let them make a rational decision based on that.
  12. 50 Day Song Challenge #7

    Day 48
  13. British Politics

    What happens if a second referendum merely produces the same outcome as 2016? Are we going to see a third? A fourth? A fifth, because I cannot see these remainer shouty types retiring silently? Are the remainers going to continuously demonstrate contempt for democracy and insist on rerunning the thing until they get the result they want? What if a second referendum produces: 48% leave 52% remain. You'd basically have replaced an earlier mandate that was incredibly close with a replacement mandate that was equally as close. British politics would be further torn apart. Farage would say, '' all you've done is re-run the thing at gunpoint''. Divisiveness between the two camps would widen further. A second referendum is the last thing this country needs right now.
  14. The whining thread

    I hope yous have a record breaking hot summer this year, just to watch your posts in this thread turn into Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad like 'the sweltering heat has left us bereft, hopeless, the smell of death all around, the humidity has turned breathing into a war of attrition, bacterias poison the water, we gather at sunset in church to pray for rain'
  15. The Religion/Spirituality Thread

    Hey man, I'm a catholic! Well, not really, although I guess officially I am still registered at the catholic church. Oh my. But I believe what I want to believe without putting a label on it, and I definitely don't want to join some man made concept like a religion and follow traditions and rules that have nothing to do with ''god'' in the first place. But out of curiosity, do you think there is nothing at all out there, or are you like me, open to the idea that there might be ''something'' without having any answers and being fine with that?
  16. British Politics

    You cannot do that as Parliament voted for the implementation of article 50 (461 to 89), and therefore leaving now is the default position, but you could revoke article 50 theoretically and there isn't a Parliamentary consensus for that either.
  17. He didn't write than one though so we can let him off there
  18. British Politics

    Democracy is a process and I don't think its advisable to dive into doing odd things under its banner, lest you negate the thing in its entirity. The idea is you have votes, votes have an outcome and then you have to respect and/or live with that outcome otherwise you are taking steps towards a sort of anarchy (there's a fair leap to go before anarchy but you get what I mean). Its not normal for a reason, its not normal because its dangerous or potentially dangerous. In a climate where the far right is kinda picking up speed you will do a great deal for their cause by corroborating their notions of a broken system by doing weird out of the way and, to a point, nonsensical and anti-democratic shit. The idea is simple, you have to stick with the results of such processes, if you don't then it can fall into an ad infinitum process of ANOTHER referendum...and another...and another. All it requires is a vocal visible group with enough savvy to propagate their agenda well and you have successfully put across the idea that it is the will of the people to have x, y or z. The truth is the people don't have a collective will, there are elections and there are results and at the end of each there will always be a certain amount of people who are disgruntled with the result but you have to live with it I'm afraid. Either that or start lighting torches.
  19. The whining thread

    Ugh... being hungover during a heatwave is the worst... it's going to be a long, drunken summer.
  20. Today
  21. Summer Song Challenge #8

    Day 1
  22. British Politics

    I don't understand this discussion at all. Just because it's not 'normal' to redo a referendum, doesn't mean you shouldn't do it if it makes sense, and SoulMonster has repeatedly given good reasons why it would make more than sense regarding this situation. If they finally make a deal, give the people in the UK the option to choose for said deal or to remain. This will be fair to everyone because they will know what they are voting for this time, unlike three years ago. If the majority still votes leave, so be it, at least this time they will know what they're getting themselves into.
  23. British Politics

    Meaning that parliament is well within its rights to ignore the result of the referendum for the good of the people.
  24. USA almost attacked Iran

    The last one was so brilliant I'll paste it all:
  25. The T.V. Show Thread

    It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia (season 12). I had never even heard of this show until recently. Since then I've watched them all.
  26. USA almost attacked Iran

    U.S. Claims Drone Was Minding Own Business On Its Way To Church When Iran Attacked It Out Of Nowhere https://politics.theonion.com/u-s-claims-drone-was-minding-own-business-on-its-way-t-1835695562 Bolton Argues War With Iran Only Way To Avenge Americans Killed In Upcoming War With Iran https://www.theonion.com/bolton-argues-war-with-iran-only-way-to-avenge-american-1835704580 Chuck Schumer: ‘The American People Deserve A President Who Can More Credibly Justify War With Iran’ https://politics.theonion.com/chuck-schumer-the-american-people-deserve-a-president-1835697625 John Bolton Urges War Against The Sun After Uncovering Evidence It Has Nuclear Capabilities https://politics.theonion.com/john-bolton-urges-war-against-the-sun-after-uncovering-1835805360 Bolton Calls For Forceful Iranian Response To Continuing U.S. Aggression https://politics.theonion.com/bolton-calls-for-forceful-iranian-response-to-continuin-1835735060
  27. British Politics

    Yes, but with every other election people can change their mind again after 4 years in the next election. And that is basically what I am arguing should be done here: Too much time has passed, a Brexit shouldn't happen without a new referendum. And thankfully through this period, and the work of May and likely Boris Johnson, when a new referendum is held people will know a lot more about the consequences of both leave and remain. I would have had zero problems if the 2016 referendum resulted in swift Brexit. But there was no plan that allowed swift exit. Because there was no belief it would actually happen. Which led to these three years of pathetic negotiations with the EU.
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