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Posted 11 October 2004 - 02:47 PM

WHAT SONGS HAVE BEEN RUMORED TO BE ON CHINESE DEMOCRACY? AND WHICH SONGS HAVE BEEN PLAYED LIVE?

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This topic addresses rumors, fakes and live performances.

Released studio songs by the new band:

- Oh My God
(This song is not expected to be on the album as it appeared on the "End of Days" soundtrack album in 1999).
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New songs that were played live in 2001 and/or 2002:

- Chinese Democracy
- Madagascar
- The Blues
- Rhiad And The Bedoins
- Silkworms
- Oh My God

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Rumoured titles:

Here's a list of tracks that have been rumored to be on the album. The titles were listed in magazines and mentioned in interviews. To date, no track listing has been confirmed.

Prostitute
Cock-a-roach Soup
This I Love
Suckerpunched
No Love Remains
Friend or Foe
Zip it
Something Always
Hearts Always Get Killed
This Life
Closing In On You
Catcher in the Rye
IRS
TWAT (There Was A Time)
Strange Disease
Never Had It
Today, Tomorrow, Forever
Livin’ Loud
Oklahoma

Some songs may simply be working titles while others may not be part of the album at all anymore.

In December 2002, Axl himself said that Catcher in the Rye would likely be the third single released. However, it's not known if his plans have changed since then.
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Possible radioplay of the song IRS:

It was rumoured that the song IRS was played on radio once by Eddie Trunk. You can read all about it in this topic

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Posted 17 October 2004 - 05:45 AM

Fakes:

When it comes to Chinese Democracy, many fake tracks have been circulating on the internet. Peer2peer networks like Kazaa, Imesh or Emule have offered a lot of songs claiming to be a part of Chinese Democracy. However, none of these have been proven to be real! Many of these songs carry titles that were rumoured in magazines.

There are also old gnr songs that were never released. You can check the Guns n' Roses (pre 1994) rare song guide for this. Some songs on the web are even songs by completely different bands, that are labelled to be Guns n’ Roses songs. There are others, however, that may sound very much like Guns n’ Roses. Our advice is: Never believe what you download! It’s fake until proven real! Once again it is also important to add that Oh My God is the ONLY studio song by the new band.

General information on the new songs:

Please take note that the lyrics in this section have NOT been officially confirmed. We have done our best to make them out, but still it may not be 100% accurate.

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Title: Chinese Democracy

Played live:
This one was a regular. It was played in every 2001 and 2002 show by the new Guns n’ Roses

Lyrics:
It don’t really matter
You’ll find out for yourself
No it don’t really matter
You’re gonna leave this thing to
Somebody else

If they missionaries
Real time visionaries
Sitting in a Chinese school
To view my dis-infatu-ation
I know that I’m a classic case
Watch my disenchanted face
Blame it on the Falun Gong*
They've seen the end and you can’t hold on now

Cause it would take a lot more hate than you
To stop the fascination
Even with an iron fist
Our baby got to rule the nation
But all I got is precious time

It don’t really matter
You’re gonna find out for yourself
No it don’t really matter
So you can hear now from
Somebody else

Cause it would take a lot more time than you
I've got more masturbation
Even with your iron fist
More than you got to rule the nation
But all I got is precious time
More than you got to rule the nation
But all I got is precious time

It don’t really matter
Gonna keep it to myself
No it don’t really matter
So you can hear it now from
Somebody else

You think you got it all locked up inside
And if you beat them all up they’ll die
Then you’ll walk them home for the cells
Then now you’ll dig for your road back to hell
And with your ???? makes you stop
As if your eyes were their eyes you can tell
In your lack of time

*Religious group that the Chinese Goverment have been persecuting.

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Title: Madagascar

Played live:
This one was a regular. It was played in every 2001 and 2002 show by the new Guns n’ Roses

Lyrics:
I won't be told anymore
That I've been brought down in this storm
And left so far out from the shore
That I can't find my way back, my way anymore

No I won't be told anymore
That I've been brought back in this storm
And left so far out from the shore
That I can't find my way back, my way anymore

No, I..
No, I...

Forgive them that tear down my soul
Bless them that they might grow old
And free them so that they may know
That it's never too late

For the many times would seem like a memory
I searched and found the way to choose to the end
I found the ways, why it had to be
Mired in denial and so afraid

If we ever find it soon
That we have the strength to choose
Free the ball, the chain
We built together

(Quotes) *

I won't be told anymore
That I've been brought down in this storm
And left so far out from the shore
And I can't find my way back, my way anymore

No I won't be told anymore
That I've been brought back in this storm
And left so far out from the shore
That I can't find my way back, my way anymore
Copyright Guns N' Roses 2001

*Mix from 3 speeches:
1. Martin Luther King Jr.
2. Intro of Guns N' Roses Civil War from the movie "Cool Hand Luke"
3. Michael J. Fox in the move "Casualties of War"
(subject to change..)
4. "All men betray, all lose heart"..."I don't want to lose heart, I want to believe". From the movie Braveheart

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Title: The Blues

Played live:
This one was a regular. It was played in every 2001 and 2002 show by the new Guns n’ Roses

Lyrics:
All the love in the world couldn't save you
All the innocence inside
You know I tried so hard to make you
To make you change your mind

And it hurts too much to see you
And how you left yourself behind
You know I wouldn't want to be you
Now that's a hell I cant describe

So now I wander through my days
Trying to find my ways
To the feelings that I felt
I saved for you and no one else

And though as long as this road seems
I know its called the street of dreams
But that's not stardust on my feet
It leaves a taste that's bittersweet
That's called the blues

I don't know just what I should do
Everywhere I go I see you

Although its what you planned, this much is true, oh oh
What I thought was beautiful don't live inside of you, anymore, oh oh

I don't know just what I should do
Everywhere I go I see you

You know it's what we planned, this much is true, oh oh
What I thought was beautiful don't live inside of you, anymore oh oh

What this means to me
The more I know you believe
What I thought was you now
Has cost more that it should for me

What I thought was true before
Were lies I couldn't see
What I thought was beautiful
Is only memories, oh oh oh oh oh oh

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Title: Rhiad And The Bedoins

Played live:
This song was only played live in 2001, and the very beginning of the 2002 tour. These were the dates when it was played live:
01.01.01 - House Of Blues, Las Vegas, NV
08.17.02 - Summer Sonic Festival, Marine Stadium, Chiba, Japan
08.18.02 - Summer Sonic Festival, WTC Open Air Stadium, Osaka, Japan
08.24.02 - Pukkelpop Festival, Pukkelpop Field, Hasselt-Kiewit, Belgium
08.26.02 - London Arena, London, England
11.21.02 - The Palace Of Auburn Hills, Auburn Hills, MI

Lyrics:
Oh-Oh
Ohhhh
Oh, Oh-Oh
Ohhhh
Oh-Oh
Ohhhh
Oh, Oh-Oh

Rhiad and the Bedouins
Had a plan and thought they'd win
But I don’t give a fuck about them
Cause I ain't crazy

Oh, my salvation
Oh, my frustrations
Caught in the lies
No one I love is there
Somewhere in time
When will I, get there?
Ohhhh

Ohhhh
Oh-Oh
Ohhhh
Oh, Oh-Oh

Rhiad and the bedouins
So that’s the world ????
But anybody ????
Who can’t blame me?
Half the time they’re bedouins
Nomads and/or Aryans
You’ll never take me

Oh, my salvation
Oh, my frustrations
Caught in the lies
No one I love is there
Somewhere in time
People will like me there

Oh, sweet salvation
Oh, my frustrations
Caught in the lies
If you ignore this world
Somewhere in time
When will I, get there?
Ohhhh

Ohhhh
Oh-Oh
Ohhhh
Oh, Oh-Oh
Ohhhh
Oh-Oh
Ohhhh
Oh, Oh-Oh

Oh, my salvation
Oh, my frustrations
Caught in the lies
If you ignore this world
Somewhere in time
People will like me there
Ohhhh

Oh-Oh, Oh
Oh-Oh, Oh
Oh-Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh
Oh-Oh, Oh-Oh, Oh-Oh, Oh-Oh, Oh
Oh-Oh, Oh-Oh, Oh-Oh, Oh-Oh, Oh

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Title: Silkworms
Written by: Dizzy Reed & Chris Pitman

Played live:
This song has only been played live in 2001. It was played at these dates:
01.01.01 - House Of Blues, Las Vegas, NV
01.15.01 - Rock City, Barra da Tijuca, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
12.29.01 - The Joint, Hard Rock Hotel, Las Vegas, NV
12.31.01 - The Joint, Hard Rock Hotel, Las Vegas, NV

Lyrics:
Listen motherfuckers to this song that should be heard
Thrown down in the gutter, it’s more than you deserve
Kneeling fucking virgin, you know that's what you are
Pussy for a maggot, isn't that a shock

What can I do? With a bitch like you
You know that it’s true
All I have I ask of you
I'll be dammed
If it’s not true
A bitch like you

Get your head down in the sky
Fucking little schemer got yourself a broken heart
Syphilitic preachers baby I know who you are
Parasitic demons sucking acid through your heart

What can I do? With a bitch like you
You know that it’s true
All I have I ask of you
I'll be dammed
If it’s not true
A bitch like you

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Title: Oh My God
Released on: End Of Days Soundtrack (1999)

Played live:
This song has only been played live in 2001. It was played at these dates:
01.01.01 - House Of Blues, Las Vegas, NV
01.15.01 - Rock City, Barra da Tijuca, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
12.29.01 - The Joint, Hard Rock Hotel, Las Vegas, NV
12.31.01 - The Joint, Hard Rock Hotel, Las Vegas, NV

Lyrics:
It's not how you're thinking
Like you've been right
You've been living a trade-off
Believe your own version
Believe your enslavery and drain out your soul
What can I do when there's so many liars
That crawl through your veins
Like millions of spiders
That seek out their victims
And ruin the wiser
Watch out
Gotcha

Oh my god
I can't deny this
I've been taught just to kill and fight this
To bury it deeper where nobody can find it
Like nobody wanted to know

So give it away
Like they're not gonna fuck you
How long can you bear him
To come back and haunt you
To burn past your feelings
And cause you to suffer
You're starting to bleed
They don't give you up
Before its too late
What will you offer
In way of a healing
I'm so confused, abused, misused

Oh my god
I can't deny this
I've been taught just to kill and fight this
To bury it deeper where nobody can find it
Like nobody wouldn't know

Ooh, if it opens your eyes
This is better than a strong compromise
I was willing to be lost in the shuffle
If only you had let me know
Ooh, if it opens your eyes
This is better than the last compromise
I was willing to be lost in the shadows
If only you had let me know

And they wont give in
Cause they know what they're after
A kick in the face
Like its all that would matter
Ohh

Oh my god
I can't deny this
I've been taught just to murder and fight this
To bury it deeper where no one can find it
Cuz nobody wouldn't know

Ooh, if it opens your eyes
This is better than a good compromise
I was willing to be lost in the shuffle
If only you had let me know

Ooh, well it's on with the show
Like the tide down on the ocean
The waves already set in motion
The only one in the game that's lost is you

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Three other new songs - "Better," "IRS," and "There Was A Time" - were played live for the first time at the Hammerstein in New York City on May 12, 2006.

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This post has been edited by madison: 13 May 2006 - 05:25 PM


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