[SunnyDRE]

i'm not against the new line up; i'm against a band i like releasing a bad album, which gnr did with CD.

This post has been edited by SunnyDRE: 04 October 2009 - 09:07 AM

[Jackie Moon]

SunnyDRE, on Oct 4 2009, 11:06 AM, said:

i'm not against the new line up; i'm against a band i like releasing an album i dont like, which gnr did with CD.

fixed. if you dont like it, neat. i couldnt care less. but its not a bad album.

[ItsSuchACrimeUKnowItsTruee]

80% of the hatred/dislike for New GNR is not related to their actual music.

[JesusisSavior]

ItsSuchACrimeUKnowItsTruee, on Oct 4 2009, 09:51 PM, said:

80% of the hatred/dislike for New GNR is not related to their actual music.

Oh really now
i guess that explains my liking for a total of 3 of the 14 songs released on CD
hmm lookd like that takes up that 80% right there

[Drifter]

Use Your Delusion 1, on Oct 4 2009, 01:01 PM, said:

they're dull

where's the drugs, attacking airport staff and getting pissed on stage?

thats what lots of people want to see, NuGNR are just not very rock & roll.

[Screamin Demon]

Because they call themselves Guns N' Roses.

This post has been edited by Screamin Demon: 08 October 2009 - 02:39 AM

[JesusisSavior]

Drifter, on Oct 6 2009, 02:09 PM, said:

Use Your Delusion 1, on Oct 4 2009, 01:01 PM, said:

they're dull

where's the drugs, attacking airport staff and getting pissed on stage?

thats what lots of people want to see, NuGNR are just not very rock & roll.

Nothing screams GN'R louder than ankles and teethmarks!

[Ninette Rose]

Actually the prob is that they continue to be called GN'R..
if it was just Axl's band(which is in reality..) nobody would say anything negative..

[floyd the barber]

ItsSuchACrimeUKnowItsTruee, on 04 October 2009 - 08:51 PM, said:

80% of the hatred/dislike for New GNR is not related to their actual music.

Hmm, that's an interesting statistic. Would you mind giving me a link to where you got that information?

[~SweetChildOfMine~]

Although they are called GN'R as some have said they aren't GN'R is Slash, Duff, Izzy, Steven/Matt.
IMHO Axl wants to keep Gn'R alive by keeping the name but in reality it's the legacy that keeps guns alive... I've nothing against the music, it's just not Gn'R.

[fransesselaar92]

they miss izzy and slash the most

[JONEZY]

Chinese Democracy should have been released 8 years ago. Then followed by another 2 albums. Axl blew his chance to have people appreciate the 'new' band.
We should have had 3 albums by now, followed by a much awaited reunion.

I dig the 'new' album, but I don't have any sort of connection with the current band members.

[MetalForever]

Carne_asaDA, on 01 October 2009 - 05:37 PM, said:

<!--quoteo(post=2517665:date=Oct 1 2009, 04:36 PM:name=myguiltysecret)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (myguiltysecret @ Oct 1 2009, 04:36 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2517665"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=2517658:date=Oct 1 2009, 10:27 PM:name=Carne_asaDA)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Carne_asaDA @ Oct 1 2009, 10:27 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2517658"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Chemistry is not there.

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What do you have against Robin?
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He sucks. He plays guitar as if his fingers have been ran over by an asphault paver.

Sounds similar to the way Steven plays the drums these days.

[floyd the barber]

MetalForever, on 16 October 2009 - 05:38 PM, said:

Carne_asaDA, on 01 October 2009 - 05:37 PM, said:

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Axl brought in a bunch of talented musicians (with the exception of Robin) together but the guys just don't mesh as a band. And that is evident in Chinese D.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


What do you have against Robin?
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

He sucks. He plays guitar as if his fingers have been ran over by an asphault paver.

Sounds similar to the way Steven plays the drums these days.

Dude, don't make fun of Steven. The guy has a mental illness. That's pretty low.

[Jackie Moon]

rancid punks, on 01 October 2009 - 06:05 PM, said:

It isn't that I have anything against these guys but other than Bucket (who is long gone), what personalities are there really in the band? I guess Ashba might have one but the thing is back in the day ,Slash,Duff etc. all talked openly and freely about GnR. There wasn't this "no comment"bullshit. You never heard Slash or Duff say "That isn't my place to discuss that, I'll let management talk"

Let's face it,outside of us nobody gives a flying fuck for Frank Ferrer,Ron etc. That isn't to say they aren't great players but they just don't have the "It Factor" that Slash,Duff,Izzy and Steven are all blessed with.

i dont think personaltiies is the right word, i think status is the keyword. ron does not have the same status as slash, in "guns n roses" or in popular culture. slash was an original member, but more than that, we all know he was 50% of guns n roses, it was his and axls band.

you cant expect ron thal to walk in like he owns the place, and then rip on him because he doesnt act the way you expect him to. do you honestly expect him to comment on band business as if gnr was HIS band? he is a member, but this is axls band and everybody (except you) seems to know it. ron knows his place, and thats not a knock against him or anything, its just the situation. this is axls band, ron is his guitar player, and im totally fine with that. its not a band in a business sense, this is the axl rose show, he controls it all. musically, it is a band, you can listen to CD and tell its a group effort, not axl playing puppeteer. it is a band musically, and thats all that matters. i really dont understand how you havent accepted this yet. you seem to be constantly fustrated by the lack of comments, but you have nobody to blame but yourself.

one place we do agree, bucket is the only member since slash with starpower. imo losing bucket was a much bigger loss than slash. im not saying bucket is better than slash (which he is), but when slash left, it was time. they had outgrown eachother and it jsut wasnt working anymore. if slash had stuck around, it probably would have been a disaster. but buckets departure was premature. if axl and bucket kept worknig together for the past decade, who knows what they might have come up with.

Carne_asaDA, on 01 October 2009 - 06:27 PM, said:

Chemistry is not there.

Axl brought in a bunch of talented musicians (with the exception of Robin) together but the guys just don't mesh as a band. And that is evident in Chinese D.

i think there is great chemistry. i think your trying to say its 'all over the place'. if you want to hear the same solo / song structure over and over i suggest you put in libertad. how'd that album do? your 'robin isnt a talented muscian' comment is just ridiculous. he clearly is a talented muscian, maybe not your style, but to say he isnt talented is just lame.

yeah, it is all over the place, but thats kind of the point.

Satanisk_Slakt, on 01 October 2009 - 06:28 PM, said:

Obviously most people think here think they've done some good music. I wouldn't mind the band at all if they weren't calling themselves Guns N' Roses when they clearly isn't Guns N' Roses. You don't need to tell me that they aren't Axls solo-project, but they are damn much closer to be that than to be Guns N' Roses, that's for sure.

i think it is guns n roses. its obviosuly not the same guns n roses that most of us grew up with, but it IS guns n roses.

1.guns n rsoes did not end / resume, it just transformed. slash quit, he was replaced, duff quit, he was replaced.
2.the progression from appetite to illusions is matched by the progression from illusions to chinese. in this sense, i think chinese democracy is in the spirit of guns n roses. well, what i consider guns n roses to be. apparently alot of you think the spirt of guns n roses is being fucked up on heroin for a decade and pissing your leather pants on a nightly basis. then playing wtih fergie.

floyd the barber, on 16 October 2009 - 06:58 PM, said:

MetalForever, on 16 October 2009 - 05:38 PM, said:

Sounds similar to the way Steven plays the drums these days.

Dude, don't make fun of Steven. The guy has a mental illness. That's pretty low.

since when is being a fuck up a mental illness?

This post has been edited by Jackie Moon: 17 October 2009 - 10:37 PM