[tkarmy]

Just watched the first Hammerstein show again... I feel sorry for everyone involved with the GNR project. You can tell everyonee really wanted this ship to sail then... its too bad it took so long regardless of whatever reason.. CD should have come out then. That show was special... a bit sloppy but special. You can tell just how jazzed everyone was to be there and actually be playing the songs. Like the part just before TWAT when Tommy says "i'm having a really good fucking time are you?" and axl replies "you have no idea". There was magic with that line up. Robin was on fire and everyone was really having a great time. Hopefully they can recapture the energy and excitement they all had then.

I never really got that vipe in the 2002 tour.. everything seemed forced. But 2006-2007 was great. (i was at all 4 hammerstein shows BTW).

I just hope with DJ they can carry the same care and energy for the songs for the show.... I'm going to miss Robin. I loved his style and feel. I know not everyone shares that sentiment but I thought he was great. Hopefully Dj can carry the torch...

I GUess I'll find out Calgary, Edmonton, Saskatoon, Regina! I feel so fortunate Canada came second on the list. I really wanted to be there for the first show after CD was released but the 2300 plane ticket, 400 for hotels, plus food n booze was just too hard to the pocket book. I'm doing my Canadian tour for about 800 can total for booze tickets gas etc.... much better deal.

This post has been edited by tkarmy: 06 November 2009 - 02:28 AM

[Satanisk_Slakt]

tkarmy, on 06 November 2009 - 08:26 AM, said:

There was magic with that line up.

lol

[The Glow Inc.]

Yeah, we get it, Slash isn't there, therefore it sucks and the people who like it are retards.

Boring.

[FuddMckagan]

The Glow Inc., on 06 November 2009 - 04:54 AM, said:

Yeah, we get it, Slash isn't there, therefore it sucks and the people who like it are retards.

Boring.

I find your avatar intriguing.

[Satanisk_Slakt]

No, not really. It's more that it sucked because Finck is such a mediocre guitarist, and that most of the guys in the band had at least one own boring solo at each show. I can accept one or two solos, even if they sucks, just so that the others can rest or take some oxygen or whatever it is they want to do, but common... They had like 6 solos at each show, and they all sucked.

[axlfan88]

The Glow Inc., on 06 November 2009 - 04:54 AM, said:

Yeah, we get it, Slash isn't there, therefore it sucks and the people who like it are retards.

Boring.

Not just Slash.

Izzy, Steven and Duff weren't there either.

Some people even said Guns N'Roses wasn't there...

But hey, if you wanna say that the 2006 line-up was magic, go ahead.

[Longpig]

Satanisk_Slakt, on 06 November 2009 - 10:05 AM, said:

No, not really. It's more that it sucked because Finck is such a mediocre guitarist, and that most of the guys in the band had at least one own boring solo at each show. I can accept one or two solos, even if they sucks, just so that the others can rest or take some oxygen or whatever it is they want to do, but common... They had like 6 solos at each show, and they all sucked.

The solos were there to "show case" the guitarists and give Axl a bit of a rest. It was probably more to do with Axl asking them than all the guitarists going "please can we have a solo spot for 5 minutes every gig".

SO whoever was in the band was gonna do that. And Mat Sorum into Slash's solo in the old line up bored me to tears too. At the gig it's fine, it's piss o'clock or beer o'clock. The only time solos suck is when you're watching it back on DVD or whatever, and in thse case sure they seem tedious, but you can skip 'em.

So the solos aren't really a reason to hate the band. When they played the songs, particularly nightrain and jungle for example they kicked ass.

Your only semi-valid argument is about Finck.

LP

[Satanisk_Slakt]

Longpig, on 06 November 2009 - 11:45 AM, said:

Satanisk_Slakt, on 06 November 2009 - 10:05 AM, said:

No, not really. It's more that it sucked because Finck is such a mediocre guitarist, and that most of the guys in the band had at least one own boring solo at each show. I can accept one or two solos, even if they sucks, just so that the others can rest or take some oxygen or whatever it is they want to do, but common... They had like 6 solos at each show, and they all sucked.

The solos were there to "show case" the guitarists and give Axl a bit of a rest. It was probably more to do with Axl asking them than all the guitarists going "please can we have a solo spot for 5 minutes every gig".

SO whoever was in the band was gonna do that. And Mat Sorum into Slash's solo in the old line up bored me to tears too. At the gig it's fine, it's piss o'clock or beer o'clock. The only time solos suck is when you're watching it back on DVD or whatever, and in thse case sure they seem tedious, but you can skip 'em.

So the solos aren't really a reason to hate the band. When they played the songs, particularly nightrain and jungle for example they kicked ass.

Your only semi-valid argument is about Finck.

LP

I hated the solos during the UYI-tour too. Especially the drumsolos. I'm glad Axl don't command them to do any of those now. They had their best shows in 86, 87 and 88, and maybe even 89.

[Longpig]

axlfan88, on 06 November 2009 - 10:39 AM, said:

The Glow Inc., on 06 November 2009 - 04:54 AM, said:

Yeah, we get it, Slash isn't there, therefore it sucks and the people who like it are retards.

Boring.

Not just Slash.

Izzy, Steven and Duff weren't there either.

Some people even said Guns N'Roses wasn't there...

But hey, if you wanna say that the 2006 line-up was magic, go ahead.

They were very good in 2006. I took my then girlfriend to a gig, and she didn't like Gn'R at all, and now she would see them again.
She still isn't a big fan of the music, but live she loved it.

So if you wanna say that the 2006 line up was shit, to make you feel better, then go ahead but you're wrong.

LP

Satanisk_Slakt, on 06 November 2009 - 10:55 AM, said:

Longpig, on 06 November 2009 - 11:45 AM, said:

Satanisk_Slakt, on 06 November 2009 - 10:05 AM, said:

No, not really. It's more that it sucked because Finck is such a mediocre guitarist, and that most of the guys in the band had at least one own boring solo at each show. I can accept one or two solos, even if they sucks, just so that the others can rest or take some oxygen or whatever it is they want to do, but common... They had like 6 solos at each show, and they all sucked.

The solos were there to "show case" the guitarists and give Axl a bit of a rest. It was probably more to do with Axl asking them than all the guitarists going "please can we have a solo spot for 5 minutes every gig".

SO whoever was in the band was gonna do that. And Mat Sorum into Slash's solo in the old line up bored me to tears too. At the gig it's fine, it's piss o'clock or beer o'clock. The only time solos suck is when you're watching it back on DVD or whatever, and in thse case sure they seem tedious, but you can skip 'em.

So the solos aren't really a reason to hate the band. When they played the songs, particularly nightrain and jungle for example they kicked ass.

Your only semi-valid argument is about Finck.

LP

I hated the solos during the UYI-tour too. Especially the drumsolos. I'm glad Axl don't command them to do any of those now. They had their best shows in 86, 87 and 88, and maybe even 89.

Yeah the drum solo was terrible.

In 1986 - 1989 they had much shorter sets/less songs, so no solos were needed.

I guess all I'm saying is that if I have to listen to some solos every now and then so that Axl can deliver the songs properly and I get MORE songs, then it's fine by me.
I will always skip them when watching a DVD, but when you're at the gig, I don't think it matters as much.

I'd rather have solos and more songs than a short set with no solos. But I guess it's down to preference.

LP

[AxlMax]

So if you wanna say that the 2006 line up was shit, to make you feel better, then go ahead but you're wrong.

Well it's a good thing he didn't say that because if he did ever dare say that he would be absolutely categorically wrong because your gf likes them.

This post has been edited by AxlMax: 06 November 2009 - 06:32 AM

[ChineseDemocracy2004]

tkarmy, on 06 November 2009 - 07:26 AM, said:

You can tell just how jazzed everyone was to be there and actually be playing the songs. Like the part just before TWAT when Tommy says "i'm having a really good fucking time are you?" and axl replies "you have no idea". Robin was on fire and everyone was really having a great time. Hopefully they can recapture the energy and excitement they all had then.

Tentatively 2006 should have been the year but it wasn't to be. If the early shows were sloppy within that tour it was probably because the band only found another guitarist a week before their first show. I suppose you want moments like that in a show when a member of the band declares what fun they're having. Robin took a risk at least when he stage dived considering the love/hate thing people have with him. I'm going to miss Robin too because you could never be sure if he was going to blow you away or not, I mean towards the end of that tour when he had a bluesy solo spot with Dizzy and Frank I think that's one of his defining moments as a member of the band.

As for the solo spots, i didn't care much for them but it does give a member a chance to show why they're there. I preferred Dizzy's anyway, he's always been unsung imo. We'll see what happens with these upcoming shows, maybe DJ will get a spot or two and we'll see what that's like.

[Satanisk_Slakt]

Longpig, on 06 November 2009 - 12:04 PM, said:

axlfan88, on 06 November 2009 - 10:39 AM, said:

The Glow Inc., on 06 November 2009 - 04:54 AM, said:

Yeah, we get it, Slash isn't there, therefore it sucks and the people who like it are retards.

Boring.

Not just Slash.

Izzy, Steven and Duff weren't there either.

Some people even said Guns N'Roses wasn't there...

But hey, if you wanna say that the 2006 line-up was magic, go ahead.

They were very good in 2006. I took my then girlfriend to a gig, and she didn't like Gn'R at all, and now she would see them again.
She still isn't a big fan of the music, but live she loved it.

So if you wanna say that the 2006 line up was shit, to make you feel better, then go ahead but you're wrong.

LP

Satanisk_Slakt, on 06 November 2009 - 10:55 AM, said:

Longpig, on 06 November 2009 - 11:45 AM, said:

Satanisk_Slakt, on 06 November 2009 - 10:05 AM, said:

No, not really. It's more that it sucked because Finck is such a mediocre guitarist, and that most of the guys in the band had at least one own boring solo at each show. I can accept one or two solos, even if they sucks, just so that the others can rest or take some oxygen or whatever it is they want to do, but common... They had like 6 solos at each show, and they all sucked.

The solos were there to "show case" the guitarists and give Axl a bit of a rest. It was probably more to do with Axl asking them than all the guitarists going "please can we have a solo spot for 5 minutes every gig".

SO whoever was in the band was gonna do that. And Mat Sorum into Slash's solo in the old line up bored me to tears too. At the gig it's fine, it's piss o'clock or beer o'clock. The only time solos suck is when you're watching it back on DVD or whatever, and in thse case sure they seem tedious, but you can skip 'em.

So the solos aren't really a reason to hate the band. When they played the songs, particularly nightrain and jungle for example they kicked ass.

Your only semi-valid argument is about Finck.

LP

I hated the solos during the UYI-tour too. Especially the drumsolos. I'm glad Axl don't command them to do any of those now. They had their best shows in 86, 87 and 88, and maybe even 89.

Yeah the drum solo was terrible.

In 1986 - 1989 they had much shorter sets/less songs, so no solos were needed.

I guess all I'm saying is that if I have to listen to some solos every now and then so that Axl can deliver the songs properly and I get MORE songs, then it's fine by me.
I will always skip them when watching a DVD, but when you're at the gig, I don't think it matters as much.

I'd rather have solos and more songs than a short set with no solos. But I guess it's down to preference.

LP

I can just talk for myself, but I hated the solos at the show I saw in Stockholm in '06. Dizzys solo was okay, he played SOS (ABBA-song) if I recall it right, but the other solos were really shitty. Especially Fincks solo, which was just a mess of unpleasant noise. I've said it before, and I say it again. A 10 years old boy which have never played guitar makes a better solo than the shit he did at that show. It was really horrible.

[Roky]

axlfan88, on 06 November 2009 - 05:39 AM, said:

The Glow Inc., on 06 November 2009 - 04:54 AM, said:

Yeah, we get it, Slash isn't there, therefore it sucks and the people who like it are retards.

Boring.

Not just Slash.

Izzy, Steven and Duff weren't there either.

Some people even said Guns N'Roses wasn't there...

But hey, if you wanna say that the 2006 line-up was magic, go ahead.

And no Buckethead to play the great Twat solo (the only good thing about nugnr is precisely that solo) !
Seriously, nu-gnr can only be viable if Buckethead is in the band, without him it's a travesty

Buckethead is the only guy who brought some kind of magic to Axl's band
I can't believe that some people enjoyed Bumblefoot's performances in 2006
It was so mediocre

[HisRoyalSweetness]

i too hope they gnr can recapture the magic of 2006. bumblefoot had just joined. frank was just about to join. robin was about to leave. it was a magical time to be a gnr fan. anyone who lived through that era can tell you. but lightening never strikes twice. it'd be unfair to expect any band to be able to keep that up forever.

[CoBrA2168]

I liked your comments OP, and I agree, that the 06-07 tour was much more "special" in the band's eyes than in 2001-2002.

I can't believe like half of these comments are bashing the guitarists, I wanna see you play as good as them. Then maybe you guys can talk.