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QUESTION: WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED BETWEEN AXL AND KURT COBAIN AT THE VMAs IN 1992?
ANSWER: The incident occurred backstage at the Video Music Awards. Here's what happened according to Kurt Cobain's biography - "Heavier Than Heaven."
A drama was unfolding backstage. Kurt, Courtney, nanny Jackie and Finnerty were sitting with Frances when Axl Rose walked by, holding hands with his model-girlfriend Stephanie Seymour.
"Hey Axl," Courtney beckoned, sounding a bit like Blanche Dubois, "will you be the godfather of our child?" Rose ignored her but turned to Kurt, who was bouncing Frances on his knee, and leaned down near his face. As the veins in Axl's neck thickened to the size of a garden hose, he barked, "You shut your bitch up, or I'm taking ou down to the pavement!"
The idea that anyone could control Courtney was so laughable that a giant smile came to Kurt's face. He would have started chortling uncontrollably if it weren't for his own strong sense of self-preservation. He turned to Courtney and ordered, in a robot-like voice: "Okay, bitch. Shut up!" This brought a snicker to everyone within earshot, other than Rose and Seymour.
Perhaps seeking to save face, Seymour created her own confrontation, asking Courtney, with as much sarcasm as she could muster, "Are you a model?" Love, who had just delivered her child three weeks before, was quick for anyone to best her in this type of repartee - particularly Stephanie Seymour - and she fired back, "No. Are you a brain surgeon?" With that, Rose and Seymour stormed off.
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What Happened Between Axl & Kurt Cobain ... at the VMAs?
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Posted 28 November 2004 - 11:18 PM
"The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." ... Hunter S. Thompson. RIP.
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Posted 28 November 2004 - 11:32 PM
But the relationship between Axl and Kurt had not always been bitter.
In fact, Axl was a fan of Nirvana and could be seen sporting a Nirvana cap in some interviews and videos. He was reported to have asked Kurt to tour with GNR and even asked him to play at his 30th birthday party - but Kurt turned him down. Kurt also started bad-mouthing Axl and GNR, which is when things started to sour between the two rockers.
In the "Heavier than Heaven" book, it mentions that Axl went on a rant at one his concerts about Courtney continuing to take drugs while she was pregnant:
The Globe tabloid ran a story headlined, "Rock Star's Baby is Born a Junkie," complete with a picture of a deformed newborn they deceptively implied was Frances. Though Courtney wasn't the first mother with drug problems to have a child, she was soon the most public, and "the Cobain baby" was as talked about across lunch counters and supermarkiet checkout lines as the Lindbergh baby had been decades before.
Axl Rose, of Guns N' Roses, even weighed in from the stage: "Kurt Cobain is a fucking junkie with a junkie wife. And if the baby's born deformed, I think they both ought to go to prison."
Two days after Frances's brith, the couple's worst fears were realized, when a social worker from the Los Angeles County Department of Children's Services appeared in the hospital, holding a copy of Vanity Fair. Courtney was crestfallen, and felt - more than at any other moment in her life - she was being judged, which she was. Kurt had spent most of his life feeling judged, but this time it was his skills as a parent being evaluated and his drug addiction. .....
In fact, Axl was a fan of Nirvana and could be seen sporting a Nirvana cap in some interviews and videos. He was reported to have asked Kurt to tour with GNR and even asked him to play at his 30th birthday party - but Kurt turned him down. Kurt also started bad-mouthing Axl and GNR, which is when things started to sour between the two rockers.
In the "Heavier than Heaven" book, it mentions that Axl went on a rant at one his concerts about Courtney continuing to take drugs while she was pregnant:
The Globe tabloid ran a story headlined, "Rock Star's Baby is Born a Junkie," complete with a picture of a deformed newborn they deceptively implied was Frances. Though Courtney wasn't the first mother with drug problems to have a child, she was soon the most public, and "the Cobain baby" was as talked about across lunch counters and supermarkiet checkout lines as the Lindbergh baby had been decades before.
Axl Rose, of Guns N' Roses, even weighed in from the stage: "Kurt Cobain is a fucking junkie with a junkie wife. And if the baby's born deformed, I think they both ought to go to prison."
Two days after Frances's brith, the couple's worst fears were realized, when a social worker from the Los Angeles County Department of Children's Services appeared in the hospital, holding a copy of Vanity Fair. Courtney was crestfallen, and felt - more than at any other moment in her life - she was being judged, which she was. Kurt had spent most of his life feeling judged, but this time it was his skills as a parent being evaluated and his drug addiction. .....
"The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." ... Hunter S. Thompson. RIP.
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Posted 28 November 2004 - 11:50 PM
Duff was apparently one of the last people to see Kurt alive.
He sat beside Kurt on a flight to Seattle on April 1, 1994 - just days before Kurt killed himself.
According to Kurt's biography, this is what happened:
Meanwhile, Kurt was on the plane. He found himself sitting next to Duff McKagan of Guns N' Roses. McKagan had begun his careers in several Northwest punk bands, and despite all the bad blood between Nirvana and Guns, Kurt seemed happy to see Duff. Kurt admitted he had left rehab; Duff said he understood, as he was in recovery from heroin himself.
McKagan could tell things were amiss. "I knew from all lmy instincts something was wrong." The two talked about mutual friends, but there was also a wistfulness to their conversation - both were leaving Los Angeles and retrun ing to the Northwest. "We were talking about what it feels like to be going back home," McKagan recalled. "That's what he said he was doing - going home." Kurt announced this like someone who had been away for years, not three days.
When the plane arrived in Seattle, McKagan went to ask if Kurt needed a ride, but when he turned around he was gone.
He sat beside Kurt on a flight to Seattle on April 1, 1994 - just days before Kurt killed himself.
According to Kurt's biography, this is what happened:
Meanwhile, Kurt was on the plane. He found himself sitting next to Duff McKagan of Guns N' Roses. McKagan had begun his careers in several Northwest punk bands, and despite all the bad blood between Nirvana and Guns, Kurt seemed happy to see Duff. Kurt admitted he had left rehab; Duff said he understood, as he was in recovery from heroin himself.
McKagan could tell things were amiss. "I knew from all lmy instincts something was wrong." The two talked about mutual friends, but there was also a wistfulness to their conversation - both were leaving Los Angeles and retrun ing to the Northwest. "We were talking about what it feels like to be going back home," McKagan recalled. "That's what he said he was doing - going home." Kurt announced this like someone who had been away for years, not three days.
When the plane arrived in Seattle, McKagan went to ask if Kurt needed a ride, but when he turned around he was gone.
"The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." ... Hunter S. Thompson. RIP.
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Posted 05 December 2004 - 12:35 AM
Axl wearing a Nirvana cap:
"The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." ... Hunter S. Thompson. RIP.
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